There are plenty of things politicians do to be diplomatic, this is just one of them.
Perform a religious prayer of a religion they don’t adhere to?
This is not normal whatsoever.
Trump swears by the bible but doesn’t adhere to it, how is this any different?
He doesn’t pretend to be Jewish.
It’s common for Christian politicians to visit other religious sites such as mosques or synagogues. But actively performing a prayer is a completely different matter.
But actively performing a prayer is a completely different matter.
“Performing” a prayer?
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It’s performative for sure.
He said “a religious prayer” a few comments up lol
Once again, nobody’s pretending to be Jewish. Everyone who does this has to wear one. Gentiles included.
Sure but the question is not how the religious ritual is performed but why US presidents and their entourage are performing it when it’s clearly not their religion.
Omg do you think youre clever? Yes theyre all up Israel’s ass. Yes its for weapons most likely.
You don’t need to look for crap in every photo, this is just their stated policy
You apparently didn’t even know what you were looking at till this thread, chill
Come on people, he’s a tankie troll.
Nobody in this thread has said anything I did not already know.
Why does it have to be different? Why can’t both things be gross?
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There’s “normal” and there’s “politician normal”. Let’s also not forget that all this religious bullshit was started to make it easier for politicians to control people.
Yeah this seems like one of the least weird things these professional weirdos have done…
You don’t see those people prsy in a mosque is saudi arabia or sny other arab country
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yhea, I can bullshit. when was the last time a US politicians publicly went to an Eid event?
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AI moaners and not being able to recognize AI, name a more iconic duo.
It’s from 8 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsLtpk_G_w
Is it?
God. I know it’s the pettiest and least on-topic thing about these photos but… That god-damn weird-ass Trump centaur stance… At all times. Always. Centaur stance. I hope it’s physically painful for him to stand like that. I hope it hurts every day that he has to get up and walk.
I don’t want “Trump centaur stance” in my search history, please explain wtf you’re talking about.
Look at any photograph of him. He does this weird leaning forward thing (which some people take to be indicative of a certain type of disorder) that happens to make him look like a centaur would if you cut off the front legs and human torso into a human shape. See here
Why is Trump and Vance wearing a yamaka?
Respect for religious beliefs. That is the Western Wall, a remnant of the 2nd holy temple in Jerusalem. Mind you, it’s all a bunch of fairy tale bullshit, like every religion.
So like when women have to wear a hijab, in certain places, even if they’re not of the same faith?
Sounds about right.
It also isn’t even the actual temple wall.
well there was a temple (where they did animal sacrifice and stuff) but this might not be it
Mike Johnson is wearing one too but it’s less visible.
It’s required attire for touching the western wall.
*yarmulke fyi
What’s the difference, just curious.
Thats… how its spelled? “Yamaka” isn’t a word, its spelled “yarmulke”
Well that was a weird rabbit hole. I had no idea. Thanks.
Honest question, but isn’t that kinda disrespectful tp Judaism? They are now Jewish, they don’t believe on the Jewish beliefs, are not the hat religious?
I’m Jewish, and I think it is.
not because they aren’t Jewish, I welcome everyone to visit that place (just wait for apartheid to end before you go there), but because they are using the most religious place as a photo-op to appease genocidal lobbyists.
Can we PLEASE PLEASE stop treating judaism like it’s a special religion? I can mock christians all day, every day, why the different treatment for jews?
rule of thumb. it’s ok to punch upwards and laterally in comedy,
given that Christianity is basically the default state religion in most developed countries, making fun of it is sort of punching upwards.
but unless you’re part of the minority, it’s likely you’ll say some really stupid stuff if you make fun of said minority and it’ll likely sound hateful and ignorant.
and to make it clear. those politicians are zionists, they are doing it to appease their AIPAC donor. they are not Jewish and do not support jews or their communities. look how the only loud antizionist politician in the US has the support of his Jewish constituents.
yes, the reason to be sensitive about Judaism is the robust history and present of oppression Jews have experienced. It’s unfortunate that Israel uses this as a basis of dismissing legitimate criticism of their crimes as anti-Semitism.
For comparison, imagine a Black ethno-state committing genocide (e.g. like in Ethiopia) and then dismissing critics as merely racists.
No sorry, being black and being jewish is not the same. You can stop being jewish if you want, you can’t stop being black lol
You can stop being jewish if you want
According to all the worst people (Israeli Nationalist and Nazis) you can’t.
Judaism is a religion, but also an ethnicity - some people are born ethnic Jews and are not able to “stop being Jewish”. Some people convert to Judaism and are not ethnic Jews. You seem confused by this, maybe?
If it is really an ethnicity, what does a jew from israel, usa and poland have in common? Language, tradition, society and history are all different. Things in common? Jewish religion.
Ethnicity is also closely tied to nationalism, to a common land that shapes the shared experience of it. And if you say israel, we can close the conversation here.
Can you give me an example of ethnic jew that doesn’t follow the religion? What does it mean to be born ethnically jew?
Albert Einstein, Woody Allen, and Sigmund Freud were all ethnic Jews who were not followers of Judaism.
Are you young? I know many people IRL who are of Jewish ethnicity but are not religious, but I remember when I was younger I did not have as much awareness.
In lieu of life experience, perhaps it would be helpful to read more about Jewish identity and learn that way:
Man, you should be embarrassed. How can someone be so assertive and yet so ignorant? At least tell me you’re 12?
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So argumentative bro, can you enlighten us more? Or maybe you just wanted to say: “I sometimes see brown people having a different culture displaced by the colonial west power and forced to move from their country, and I don’t like it because I’m a fascist”?
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*Christianity
¿Porque no los dos?
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Depends who I’m talking to, because I usually curse one of them for their religion being shitty and backward
You mean because Islam is the only religion which the West actively spreads discriminatory propaganda against on their mainstream media because the countries they colonize are primarily Islamic?
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Which one killed 6 million Jews in Europe again?
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But forget about Hitler. Who invented Pogroms?
Because the Catholic ethnostate exists with the consent of Italy lmao
Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
For the most part, they’ve been pretty chill about the whole thing, frankly… But those cuts run deeeep. I’m not Jewish, and even I’m disgusted by how they were rounded up and slaughtered like cattle for no reason other than being who they are.
The biggest issue that I think you’re going to face is that most people can’t differentiate between the Jewish faith and the Jewish people (who may or may not believe in the Jewish faith).
Generally, I don’t think that making fun of the faith is any more or less taboo than poking fun at Christians or Catholics or whatever… But making fun of the Jewish people, is generally a no fly zone.
Since people lack the intelligence, awareness, and shits to give, in order to see that being Jewish and believing in the Jewish faith are separate. So if you make fun of one, you’re making fun of both.
Edit: let me back up for a second to say: I’m just trying to explain the behaviour. I am neither Jewish, nor a fan of the Jewish people, nor do I have any strong feelings against them per-se. This message is only discussing how others tend to see the Jewish people/faith/whatever. It does not, in whole or in part, express how I feel about anything at all, ever, for any reason.
I think whatever ship protected them sailed with all the genocide they’re committing.
Stop conflating Israel’s atrocities and zionism in general with Judaism and Jewish people. It 1) plays right into Israel’s strategy and 2) is, or at the very least begets, antisemitism.
82% of the Jewish population supports what the Zionists are doing in Gaza. Fuck Israel and fuck any feelings they have about being mocked. They don’t deserve to be protected by the world.
82% of the Jewish population of what, earth? Like, they asked everyone?
Trump’s approval rating is listed at 35%. Was I, an American, ever polled on this? No. Am I rejecting it outright because clearly based on my own experience the sample size was not 100%? Nope.
If the Jewish population, especially those living in Israel, don’t want to be lumped in with genocide, they can do something about it. Same as Americans who don’t want to be lumped in with those committing the destruction of the American country. I’m lumped in until I do something about it, and that’s fair. Want a good name? Make it.
Judaism is a religion and not an ethnicity. A white person from NEW JERSEY putting a tiny hat doesn’t change his ethnicity.
A jew in New Jersey is an american (location) following judaism (religion).
A jew in Palestine is a semite/arab (location) following judaism (religion).
Again, I didn’t conflate them, israel is a self proclaimed jewish supremacists state.
How is saying ‘the genocide they’re committing’ when talking about Judaism not conflating Jews with Israel?
You are not reading eh? IT IS conflating the two, you are just mad at the wrong people.
Zionist deeply conflated their supremacist ideology with judaism 100 or so years ago. This way, if someone criticises you, you can call him antisemantic and go on with your ethnic cleansing.
But it’s more than conflating, it’s hijacking it, because often many zionists in power positions don’t call themselves zionists but jews. Again this is a shield.
Do you want to be a practicing jew without all the lying, stealing, pedophilia, blackmailing and genocide? Be my guest.
Aren’t you tired to be lied to your face every day on every fucking platform? Do you think is okay to lie so you can massacre kids?
Instead of your pointless rhetorical questions, answer mine please.
Probably. I’m not going to argue about what’s happening over there.
People seem to have a lot of opinions on it and the only strong feelings I have about it are that people should stop killing eachother because grown men who are supposed to be leaders of their respective nations, cannot make peace because they’re too childish to have sympathy, empathy, and any shreds of humanity to not starve, bomb, kill, maim, or otherwise destroy eachother.
The reasons why they’re doing what they’re doing, IMO, are not as important as the lives they’re ending in the process.
Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
Holocaust survivors are few and far between but the zionists keep milking that cow (neglecting the fact the nazis didn’t target only jews).
Palestine has been suffering their own continued holocaust for over 70 years, perpetrated by the zionists.
Yeah people conflate race, culture, ethnicity, religion and what not into “being jew” because they themselves do that, so that they can claim any criticism is antisemitism.Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
Fuck the taboo, let me say it more clearly ISRAEL IS A SUPREMACIST JEWISH STATE. I didn’t conflate judaism and zionism, I didn’t say I’m a “choosen person” by god, I don’t spit on other religions, I don’t promote stealing from non-jews, I don’t condone nor justify pedophilia or hide pedophiles, I don’t bribe and blackmail people, I didn’t help carrying out other genocides and lie about it.
And when i find people who do this and call them out, I need to remember concentration camps? Fuck you, Fuck israel, Fuck zionism and Fuck the jews. (Sue me)
I don’t believe a single fucking word these disgusting liars and professional gaslighter say. Judging by how they treat Palestinians and they lie about it, from now on, I will assume EVERYTHING they say is a lie. So before we go back to WWII let’s check the crimes these scums did first.
Since when is mocking any religion taboo? You guys have been following the wrong comedians.
Oh, I don’t think that’s taboo at all. That’s basically the common fare.
My entire point is that people will conflate mocking the Jewish religion, for mocking the Jewish people; which will get them up on a high horse and unhappy and/or angry with you for being antisemitic.
Ah fair, thanks for clarifying!
Comedy is different than genuine criticism. The first is allowed, the second not. You are free to do as they tell you.
I don’t mean it as it because Judaism is an special religion. If someone that is not catholic or Muslim goes in a performative confession or migration to the Mecca I would think is disrespectful too.
I would say judaism should be seen as at least as special islam and christianity since it’s an abrahamic religion and rarer than both. So if you’re okay to say that neither of those are special, only then is it consistent to say that judaism is not special.
Of course, no religion is special. You can believe in any fairytale book inside your house and the place of prayer. However this is always within the legal framework of the law.
Your special book says you should steal from “non-religion-affiliated-people” because god said you are his bbf? 30 years in jail.
You’re the one who kicked this off with the term “special religion.”
(͡•_ ͡• ) uh?
Yes, judaism is treated like a special taboo religion that can’t be criticised. It’s not special and it should be criticised heavily.
I imagine that such people also include almost any-non-Christian religion among those that mustn’t be criticized (e.g. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.), so I wouldn’t really say Judaism is specifically being treated like a special taboo religion.
Bro stop it with the whataboutism.
We are talking about judaism here. These religious people are shielded and protected by media and politicians, it is taboo to criticise the jews in the west. This is wrong.
Paying fealty to your bosses and larping as piety never goes out of style in US politics.
If they conflate Judaism and Zionism, I don’t see why our condemnation of that conflation should follow the same path.
So no, it’s not weird. I have no problem with anyone paying respect to the Jewish religion.
Ps. Free Palestine.
Sure but this is not paying respect, it’s performing a prayer in a religion they don’t adhere to.
*in a religion that is a direct precursor to their own
Christians blame Jews for crucifying Jesus, what are you on about? Christians literally invented Pogroms.
Ugh go trash up someone else’s inbox
Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism. The Old Testament and the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) are largely the same.
Yes Christianity is the sequel to Judaism, but they believe that the Jews at the time didn’t want to follow Jesus and crucified him for heresy. Hence Jews and Christians have a had a lot of beef the past 2000 years.
It’s a bit more complicated than that, but the point is that praying at the western wall is not exactly not Christian.
This is really just tourist shit, innit?
I’ve been and I’m nowhere near religious. I really thought it was just a touristy thing to do while you’re there, though obviously I know that it has a lot of significance to some groups.
Do you start to see it? Americans, please for the love of god, tell me you see it.
Unfortunately, those of us in the comments have likely seen it from the beginning
The rest refuse to see anything
Did he find a crevice to put his hand in?
The wall is too old for him to be interested in penetrating it.
They are all slaves to the terror state:
Our Epstein friend:
the genocide collaborator and the drone king:
Isn’t the weird part, “and the next two in line of succession?”
Call it the chain of command, then. If the president dies, the VP gets it, if the VP does, the Speaker gets it
I don’t really give a crap about the ceremonial bullshit of this stupid wall, but it does look like a good wall to piss on.
Thank you for posting this.
And you’re right: it is extremely weird.
Not really, thousands of people a day do the same thing at the same wall, not all are Jewish
You only think it’s weird because it’s being done by a fascist pedophile
This post is weird
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It’s not even where the temple was located. They’re worshipping an ancient Roman garrison.
All three look like the thought bubble is “have I been standing here long enough? better stick around for a few more minutes to be sure”
