During the agents’ violent attack on a delivery worker Saturday morning in DC, bystanders repeatedly demanded the agents share their badge numbers. One of them—his face fully obscured by a black balaklava—eventually shot back, “Do I have to answer to you?”
“You guys are ruining this country. You know that, right?” one bystander said to the agents at one point during the incident. An agent, ironically clad in a rainbow face mask, replied “Liberals already ruined it.”
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Last week on stage at the Netroots conference in New Orleans, I spoke with Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-IL) about ICE: specifically that she believes it should be abolished. It’s a stance that’s considered far left, but after witnessing ICE and other federal agents in DC this week, abolishing ICE should be the baseline Democratic position.
“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”
ICE is becoming a paramilitary organization, Trump’s personal army. It isn’t really fulfilling its supposed role for which it was created in the first place.
ICE has a bigger budget than the entire Russian military.
Send ICE to Ukraine; we can get two birds stoned at once.
I think most of them would just fight for Putin.
That’s the idea, let them enter the meat grindet
Sadly that war is a meat grinder for both sides. Just the ruling class of Russia and the ruling class of the West throwing working class bodies at their useless wars.
Edit: Russia is the aggressor invading a sovereign nation illegally. I’m not talking about right and wrong of nation states. But the wests policy of “fighting to the last Ukrainian” is also disgusting. 70% of Ukrainians want an end to the hostility now. Their blood is being used by the west to fight a war they cannot win.
Omg! I say we can get 2 birds stoned at once 😂😂 I didnt think anyone else did. Day made.
Right!? It was supposed to be a paramilitary organization that harassed, assaulted, disappeared, and murdered people crossing the border. SMH truly lost their way…
Liberals surprised Pikachu face when the agency created during the bush administration is fascist.
At least he was funny.
and then they made it such that “the border” was any place within 100 miles of any airport. So the entire United state pretty much. They dont guard a border.
Just as the founding father’s intended.
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It absolutely is fulfilling the role it was created for. It’s just not fulfilling the role that it was stated to be created for.
What is that agents name and badge number?
what does that agent’s face look like?
338 Lapua.
The republican traitor filth must be brought low.
Abolishing paramilitaries in all forms should be a baseline Democratic position. It ain’t the 1770s anymore.
I really don’t understand how cons think liberals “ruined” anything. This country could be very great if the cons would stop trying to make everyone’s lives miserable by constantly poking their nose where it doesn’t belong.
“Things would be better if it weren’t for [group], they’re the problem, not the rich.” It’s a lie as old as civilization and conservatives always fall for it.
Increasingly, both here on Lemmy as well as elsewhere, I seem to be seeing an awful lot of what I’d label as inter-generational bullshit that seems designed to distract from the very same thing (the centimillionaire/billionaire class).
For the most part, Gen X is ignored in a lot of this, but I see a lot of people acting as if their generation (Gen Y/Z for the most part) has a special class of problems no one else had, and the boomers are the worst generation in history or something. With almost zero context or sense of history and a whole lot of erasure of people’s experiences, LOL. It’s actually kind of embarrassing to see it when I see there are liberals/leftists doing this, too. Talking about a “gerontocracy” in the political class. Falling for the “term limits” bullshit, even.
Those of us that have been around a bit and are trying to pay attention remember seeing boomers saying the same thing when they were younger, as well as Gen Xers, and it’s even with all the 'net at our fingertips now, I see both my generation and younger generations saying the same dumb shit.
The problem always has been and always will be the lazy rich that don’t want to work.
They are called the “idle rich” and the parasitic class for a reason.
Hey USA. How’s that 2nd Amendment working for you?
I’m still waiting for the trial, where I’ve agents were gunned down for self defense.
and there will be a trial regarding the right to defend yourself from masked unidentified gangs kidnapping people.
if the decision goes against fascist ideals, then the Supreme court will intervene. and the 2A nuts will suck fash cock and celebrate that it’s bad to raise against a tryranic government.
“🎶Land of the free, home of the brave🎵”
Feeling brave and free enough to stop a rapist, racist, paedo nazi from overtaking your country yet?
Or are you going to carry on waiting for someone else to do something?I’m glad you asked. We’re seriously thinking about arming the children. Only semi auto for the kids though and teachers get full auto. Cops will just carry grenade launchers and rockets now, for their safety. That should finally take care of the school shooting problem. We tried arming the cops and putting them in schools, but that just created a soiled underpants problem and didnt save any kids at all.
Who needs guns when you have memes and twitter, I mean x a platform owned by one of the enemies that people still use. /S
Juvenile. Pissed off that someone might hold them accountable. Not much these people hate more than oversight and someone getting in the way of their violence.
Meal Team Six is pretty badass with their masks.
ICE is a terrorist organization, but if they aren’t going to abolish it then we need to abolish ICE members. One by one by one.
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A mid-size nuclear powerplant is required to drive the searchlight that’d enable this level of projection.
These guys are total pussies. Either shoot them or unmask them. They are already on camera so swarm them and pull down a few masks. Once you ID a few of them publicly, the rest will drop like flies.
And lose your jobs, your homes, and your freedom in the process as you get prosecuted for assaulting federal agents where the authorities have an incentive to make an example out of you to deter future incidents.
I’m not expecting the world to change from holding hands and singing hymns, but insulting people (who already started confronting them instead of just pretending not to see) for not sacrificing more than I’d have to seems rather narrow-minded to me.
You’re going to lose all those things anyway.
If this continues unopposed, yes, but asking individuals in specific situations to sacrifice their own lives without an organized community does not sound reasonable to me.
Considering the mass surveillance well underway, the window to organize effectively has already closed. Doing so puts you in as much danger unmasking an agent and in this scenario they will just slap the terrorism label on it and that’s the end of the conversation.
It’s preferable to mass organize but it’s too late now. Keep fighting. We are going to lose but we are going to make this as difficult and expensive as possible anyway. They don’t get to be comfortable.
We’re not gonna lose, these fucks always fall apart sooner or later. Authoritarianism always falls.
Yes, it does, but only the survivors benefit from its collapse. What makes you so confident that you will survive when many others will not?
My survival isn’t guaranteed, but neither is it guaranteed by doing nothing.
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Making large groups of people that all agree with you spontaneously appear at a location is typically not super easy.
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Unfortunately, a large percentage of the voting population seems to support them, which is part of how we got here in the first place. The best argument for a free and open democracy is what happens with any of the alternatives, but people have a tendency to forget, and opportunists are great at using difficult times to garner support.
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A Quinnipiac University poll showed voters disapproved of how ICE was enforcing immigration laws, 57% to 39%. ICE’s numbers on immigration were even slightly worse than Trump’s.
An NPR-PBS News-Marist College poll last month showed 54% of Americans said ICE had “gone too far” in enforcing immigration laws.
And a CNN poll released last weekend showed Americans opposed Trump’s expanded ICE funding, 53-31%.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/politics/ice-unpopularity-trump-analysis
Could turn facial recognition back on them…
They’re doing that in LA
No one wants to shoot anyone. We’re not murderers. So here we are, needing to think of some other way, and no one has ideas.
Healthy people don’t WANT to murder people. But we are being backed into a corner. Are you willing to die for decorum or fight?
“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”
It’s agents also need to be arrested, and put on a trial.
Liberals already ruined this country
Is he wrong though?
nuance
Talking about the broad liberal who values hierarchy and private property. That’s exactly who ruined this country. Not that I agree with how this guy is going about trying to fix it. But whether you’re talking about putting us in our techno capitalist subscription based dystopia, or the land that was burned and decimated to lay its foundation, liberals deserve all the credit.
That’s true, but in this man’s mouth, “liberals” almost certainly means anyone to the left of Hitler, and he doesn’t deserve the charitable reading you’re giving him. We have to interpret the statement appropriately to who is saying it.
Definitely should’ve added that to my nuance. He and I are definitely not using the same definition of liberal.
Nah, liberals don’t deserve all the credit. Also I’d wager this pig uses liberals to mean “left”
He is wrong to use it as an excuse to be a fascist thug
True, no good reason for that
Not wrong, but for the wrong reasons.
I was gonna say ‘you are a “Liberal,” jackass!’
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Every republican since Bush 2?
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Hi finitebanjo, I see you dodged your last ban by choosing the same name on a new instance and rejoining. Bold of you to pick the same handle.
4 entire pages of modlog actions on you, wow. https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=9867145
Well welcome back. On to page 5 of the modlog I guess.
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theres the finitebanjo we all know.
I lived in DC for 6 years and always wore my seatbelt. Never had any issues. I doubt a senator would be driving through the areas where you would have an issue too.
