• Awa@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Thank you all for your participation, but if you cannot be civil in your discussions, the post will be locked down.

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    3 months ago

    Fucking hell. I mean… fuck.

    I wish the world would lose all of its stupid societal stigmas that make people feel less human than their equally human peers.

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    I firmly believe in the right to bodily autonomy and the freedom to modify one’s body in accordance with their wishes. But also this definitely fits in the same mental category as breast augmentation where I hope people discuss their body image with a therapist first.

    I’ll admit, as a tall woman I’m probably the least likely sort to really understand, but I am sympathetic, even if I was attracted to men it would be unlikely for any given partner to be significantly taller than me, and as I’m not it’s downright rare. There’s lots of gendered awkwardness in being taller than most men, and I’m certain that short men aren’t lying when they say the inverse is also true. But also, the short men in my life still feel pretty damn manly to me and the ones who own it have a certain extra charm that comes from that.

    Also, the article mentioning guys over 6’ doing this, and I really hope those guys talk to someone about it, because that sounds like it might be dysmorphia.

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      Also, the difference here is that while still an invasive operation, breast augmentation is way less destructive and still somewhat reversible compared to leg lengthening surgery. Not to mention the long and painful recovery process. And it’s not even guaranteed you’ll recover normally.

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      As a fellow fairly tall person, even beyond how it looks to be tall, you don’t need to be much over 6’ before it starts getting downright inconvenient. I’m just shy of 1.9m / 6’3", so by no means exceptionally tall (for my country and gender, at least) and like… there are a lot of times when it’s just troublesome. I don’t fit in places or things. A lot of clothes don’t fit me well. I hit my head on things. A lack of legroom is often uncomfortable. I feel like I’m ruining the view for other people at concerts. The idea of people close to my height actively going out of their way to make themselves even taller - even if it was a trivial process, which it clearly is not - is madness to me

      Of course I do understand that it’s a self-image thing and such things do not care about practicalities. Everyone’s got to find a way to be happy with themselves. I get that. It’s just… god I hate hitting my head on stuff, that shit hurts

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        My husband is 6’3" and works in a university kitchen.

        The tables are too short causing him to be hunched over all day. The doorways are too short, there are overheads on the cookware and he hits his head on both these things if he’s not paying attention.

        He’s size 14 shoe and can’t just buy them off the rack and cost more. His knees and back are already failing him and he’s not yet 40.

        On a less serious note, I never wear heels. Taking photos together is a nightmare.

        I’m short, 5’1". I’ve dated men from my height to his and dont really have a preference other than confidence in one’s self.

        People don’t get to choose their height, and being tall is not all it’s cracked up to be. I bet my husband would trade some height to be pain free if you asked him.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    isn’t this just body dysmorphia?

    also, men are also vulnerable to body image issues, and we’re also given unrealistic body standards in the media.

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        sorry to go back to this topic, but even if it’s they social pressure or romance related it still disphoria, as long as you’re uncomfortable in your own body.

        the previous snippet conversation was overly snippy, I’m asking if you’re ok?

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          Claiming it’s (just) body dysmorphia implies that the problems those people experience are just in their heads or at least exaggerated.

          But as the article states this is not the case. Being a short man leads to lots of disadvantages and probably the most important one being having far fewer chances finding a partner. So there may be different ways of coping with the problem like acceptance but trying to change your appearance is not irrational - even though I wouldn’t opt for that. But then again I don’t have that problem - fortunately…

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      Apparently yeah, I was only aware of the delusional variant (where the obsessed on flaw is not present).

      I’m seeing dysmorphia run fucking rampant in men over the past several years. It was initially mostly noticeable with incels, but it’s gotten much more noticably widespread.

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    Being tall sucks. I’m a dude and 6’6, if I could trade in for a normal sized body I’d do it in a heartbeat.

    People are still dicks. Women don’t fall from heaven onto my dick. I don’t fit in cars, forget about flying. Finding clothes sucks ass. All furniture the world is child sized.

    I can find people in a crowd though, for what’s that worth…

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      The world is not child sized. I believe you when you say being tall suck. I am 1,5m, something like 4"11. So, the size of a child. I fit in cars, but I need a cushion. Lot of counters are so high that only my head sticks out. Finding clothes sucks too. My feet often don’t touch the ground when I’m seating on an adult chair. I have to climb so much things. I can’t reach all my shelves, even with a stool. Sometimes, sinks are a little too high.

      I’m absolutely ok with my size, and I really think being small is easier than being really tall, but the world is not made for people my size. Really not.

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        As a 5’1" person, who, I’ve watched all the women in my family shrink with age, so I likely will too, I empathize with this statement.

        The cabinet above the refrigerator in my home is empty. I cannot reach it even with a stool. I send my son up on the counter go get stuff from the top shelf for me. My feet also hang from many a chair. As a child, all my pants had to go to the seamstress to be hemmed. I remember finding a pair of capris pants in middle school, not realizing they were capris, and just being excited the length was right for pants on me. My mother used a cushion in her car as far back as I can remember, and I’m greatful new cars have more seating settings so I don’t have to do that.

        The best positive is I can buy child sized shoes and save a buck. But I do enjoy being short overall. I’d rather be short than so tall. But yeah, the world is made for the middle height people. Folks on either ends of the height scale have to make accommodations.

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      Reading the article, the guy didn’t care to be tall, he just didn’t want to be short. He had several bad experiences because of it, but also just wanted that for himself

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      Heey 6"6 here too, with slight back pain.

      Nothing is made for us, socks, dispensers, ceilings, you name it.

      Fun fact: in Sweden where I grew up, I was considered ‘too tall’, men shouldn’t be over 1m86-ish.

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    Being 5’3", I’ve thought about this kind of thing in the past. But the risks are too great, and I’m not looking to live with more pain through my life than I already have, just for the cause of being taller.

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    I’m a 5’5” dude and I love it tbh. My wife is an inch taller than me. Idk man, it’s never bothered me for a moment.

    Going this far to be a bit taller seems insane, I’m almost certain the pain later in life from a surgery like this will really suck.

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    So all these short kings are getting gender affirming care?

    Cuz that’s what I’m hearing here.

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        It’s men feeling unmanly and having surgery to fix it. Of course this is gender affirming care.

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          Yes, it’s in the article. The “(shortness) is the last acceptable prejudice in society” quote is attributed to a female patient.

          While it still seems like a gendered issue the way the article talks about it, the lengthening surgeries being done mainly on men and the rarer leg shortening on women; implying that women don’t do this at all is wrong.

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    When I grew up it seemed like everything was only about women’s bra size. Don’t expect a man to want to date you if it is less than a C! Men want real women, not children without boobs! I’ve had classmates with <C who were planning their surgery by age 16. There was also a list circulating that some boys wrote where they judged the girls look based solely on boobsize.

    Then we finally got rid of that bullshit and all agreed, that all boobsizes are ok. Just to turn around and replace it with this shitshow. It’s like we can’t just agree that everybody has different preferences, we just have to push the narrative that X property of a gender has to be a certain size, otherwise they are completely undatable.

    It’s really so sad to watch this shit happening over and over again…

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    Jesus christ

    not sure if it’s just me but reading this makes me extremely queezy.

    Ugh I can handle medical procedures and nsfl situations but

    Tap for spoiler

    “turns the key that forces apart the rods in his femurs”

    is too much of a step to grow more height methinks.


    These kinds of articles are interesting to read but god gods like I can’t imagine the insecurity one must have to actually commit into going through these kinds of procedures.

    • I say this as a person below average height btw

    Either way thanks for sharing!

    One thing I’d suggest however is to use the NSFW tag as it does show open surgical wounds. Even though blood and gore related content doesn’t bother me, it still might be unpleasant for others.

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    What is crazy is a lot of us women are ok with short men.

    yes, there are a vocal FEW women who speak for the plethora of us. But they can fuck right off along with the men who have weight and breast and hair color and hair straightness preferences and willing to overlook pure value to meet those explicit bullshit standards.

    But in my experience It’s the men who are not ok with taller women and martyr that we (the collective we as a women) are (all) forcing them into this kind of situation. I’ve had more than a few men announce I’m not allowed to wear heels. Or go out of their way to tell me I’m too tall for them. It’s honestly not women alone going around setting these rules as ‘The’ women standards for men.

    Women don’t ever say to who a man “well your breasts make mine look too small/your straight hair makes mine look too curly/your blond hair makes mine too brunette/your thin waist makes mine look thick” to knock themselves out of the run by self perception alone.

    Men are not men’s best friend in so many ways and you guys really have to start being your own best friends too here rather than your worst enemies. And look into mental health please.