If we’re to have a serious conversation on this for a second - my view is that I don’t push people towards the lifestyle choices I’ve picked (veganism, Linux, meditation, etc.) but if it seems the person is already open to something I do, I’m happy to answer their questions in a non judgemental manner and be a resource for them.
I’m truthful in what I say, and I will just as easily tell them the bad things (no Photoshop, learning curve, you may find yourself running commands sometimes) as well as the good things so they can make an informed decision.
I’ve had one friend move over to Linux Mint on his laptop because he saw I was already using it and realised it’s actually doable, and another friend start considering vegetarianism more seriously
I feel that if you constantly tell people how awesome and great Linux is and they’re missing out, you just look like you’re part of a cult and not a rational person.
Linux AND meditation? Not both at the same time, surely?
Guru MeditationGurOS
One helps with the other. Which is which, that’s up to you to decide ;)
Yep, at the end of the day it’s about using the best available tool for what you want to do
I’m with you on two out of three, but I respect your choice to be a vegan. When you say no Photoshop, you’re right - but there are acceptable tools available that can read and write PSD files; and there are some decent graphics tools. The learning curve is easier with more derived OSes like Mint, Kali, or PopOS.
While they might find themselves running command line stuff sometimes, I think anyone who’s looking at moving to Linux from Windows should have a vague knowledge of a command prompt or Powershell. If they don’t, that’s actually where I’d start - teach them the uncomfortable thing (command line) in a comfortable setting (Windows). Have them install from winget, chocolatey, or something like that. Teach them to set up a virtual machine. If they can do those two things, they’re 90% of the way to daily-driving Linux.
Seriously, I don’t preach veganism to anyone around me. When people ask why I’m vegan, I answer, straight to the point. If they ask more questions, I just continue answering their questions.
I know at least of 2 people I have known personally who became vegan later. I never preached to them.
I’m not aware of anyone who switched to Linux or an ergonomic keyboard layout though, so results may vary.
“Son, I FORBID you to use Linux!”
“YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!”
Bam, big uptick in Linux adoption, easy.
“Libs hate Linux Mint”
“Nazis hate Fedora”
Now all your bases are covered. Now we can put aside political ideology and fight about the real issues… the distro wars.
Really, though - it would be amazing if someone made a MAGA-themed distro just to tell people it’s the “Trump47Freedom Linux, free from liberal wokeness!” and then just collected massive telemetry and had a bunch of backdoors so you can just scam them all for…
Uh…quick, tell me how does one make a Linux distro?
A Linux distro is essentially 2 things. A installer that sets everything up and a package repository to install software and updates from. The work is in selecting the software in the repository and making sure they all work with each other. But you can just take an existing distro (like debian) and make minor changes, like setting a Trump wallpaper, setting a secret backdoor password for ssh and adding the telemetry to the programs installed by default. For everything else refere back to the parent distro. Every time they make an update, just apply your changes on top of it and ship it as your own distro.
Should leave you with enough time to market to MAGAs and sell access to the backdoors and the telemetry data.
I’ve read this comment about 30 times, trying to talk myself out of paying some kids to re-package Mint for me. But with all the grifting, I could do this and charge $47 a pop and raaaake it in. And it’s not a REAL scam, right?
No, I need bitcoin scammer money up front to bother with this. And I don’t have that.
I feel like it depends on who you are and who you are selling to. Microsoft and Intel have no trouble selling backdoors to the NSA.
But in general selling access to somebody else’s computer without their knowledge is considered illegal.
“Libs hate Linux Mint”
“Nazis hate Fedora”
“I use arch btw” says the anarchist
If you hate both, are you an enlightened centrist?
Libertarians hate Ubuntu?
This is the way.
I seem to be the only guy on lemmy who doesn’t know computer shit T-T
What does this mean
League of Legends is a popular game that has a reputation for having toxic players, as well as requiring kernel-level anti-cheat, which is intrusive and so disliked here, and also does not work on Linux.
Thus, by switching to Linux, you can avoid the unwanted chance of playing League of Legends.
I don’t understand. Isn’t that show Arcane insanely popular, and a LoL show? How can the game be so disliked, then?
The gameplay and toxic playerbase are disliked. The lore and characters, which is the only thing the show shares with the game, are liked.
it means league of legends blocks itself from being installed on linux
Interesting choice of instance in that case.
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It means League of Legends is bad, but Doom is not.
League of Legends and other games by the same company require you to run an anti-cheat system that has more control over your computer than even you as an user can ever possibly get while windows is fully loaded. It basically controls windows itself - so all the tools that Linux has to run windows game are ineffective for these. It’s like the game is running windows instead of the other way around.
The other point is that games like LoL tend to have a weird effect on people. It’s not the case for everyone but most people I’ve met who play it, absolutely hate the game and feel miserable within minutes once they start playing - but they get cravings for it when they don’t. So they keep going back to play more and get mad at it again every day.
At the same time, people who don’t play those games and see the toxicity in it often meme about how the world would be better if it didn’t exist.
So the OP text is similar to saying something like “there’s no cocaine there” being a good selling point for living in some country.
I delayed switching my Win10 desktop to Proton because League brought Doombots back this week.
God, I am never escaping this game, am I…
I don’t know what that means and frankly I think that’s a blessing.
Count yourself lucky.
But frankly, imo League is overhated. I’ve been playing that game since I was 12 and no one has attempted to groom me on it. Meanwhile my time on Roblox and public Minecraft servers was…something…
Fair, I can see that. Whenever I hear a LoL player describe playing it it sounds like the time when I played WoT religiously and I don’t have partially fond memories of WoT.
No, yeah, I won’t say there isn’t a segment of the playerbase that’s addicted, but I do think it’s a bit overplayed for humour. Same with the toxicity, I’ve personally heard worse in FPS lobbies with forced voice chats.
Also our GOAT is Faker, one of the most wholesome players across all of esports. A lot of players hang around the ecosystem for him specifically.
No they don’t want to groom you, they would rather you dig a ditch and die in it lmao
You do have options. You could run Windows 11 Enterprise IoT edition, which is Windows 11 with lower hardware requirements and significantly less bloat. Or, you could switch to Linux and run Windows in a virtual machine for those edge cases where only Windows will do.
Listen…I’m trying to escape both Windows and League of Legends. Don’t give me an out here, I beg.
In all seriousness, thanks for the helpful suggestion though! I was looking at the LTSC version of Win11 before I decided to at least give some version of Linux a go as a daily driver for a bit. I can always switch back if I really hate it, you know?
Yes, you absolutely can! It’s not a forever decision. You always have the option to switch OS. :)
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What worked for me was:
“Windows updates won’t break your 5 year old laptop!”
FUCK M$
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I really should be switching to linux, but I only turn my laptop on like once a month and I’m sure I’d forget all the Linux things in-between those occasions…
Also, does anyone know whether linux can run PHPStorm? That’s like the only program I need on thereMany developers use Linux, so Jetbrains makes sure all their IDEs work on it.
I’m pretty sure in general there are more development tools that don’t work on windows (or only work through WSL, which is Linux), than development tools that don’t work on Linux.
I agree, even MacOS is a more capable software development platform than Windows these days.
I have used JetBrains software for years on Linux with no issues.
Mostly used IntelliJ, but they all seem to be built on a common base so I think it should be no problems.
Try in a VM!
I keep an org-mode file of all the useful commands, configs, and settings. and bash automatically keeps a history of all your commands anyway.
I’ve always had a better time running jetbrains ides on linux than I’ve had on windows so yeah, there won’t be any issue with that at all.
It seems so, at least it started without issues here, no clue how well it actually works
Telling me it runs, “League of Legends” is the best way to keep me away.
Telling me Linux can run my weird ass indie games could get me to change my tune though.
It will run all your weird ass indie games.
if it runs neon’s ass indie games, can it run my ass indie games too? I have a lot of ass games
Didn’t ass games get banned by Visa/MasterCard?
For games about ass: run installer if applicable thought Lutris, porn patch if needed, activate if needed with Lutris, and launch with Lutris. Most work just launching the EXE but old RPG maker games are a bit fiicky with the runtime or if they include DRM/keys. I got the run time to work by installing from Steam and adding to launching from wine and Lutris.
Also you may need to extract zips from the command line if they come out looking funny as JP encoding breaks sometimes.
I got more working on Linux than I got working on Windows. Some just work, some need some tinkering.
oh they aren’t about ass, they are just ass the english language really needs more words
Aw, I assed up my interpretation.
protondb.com to check if it runs your weird ass indie games.
just tell them how microsoft is willfully fucking them over, that worked to stop people smoking cigarettes
This was honestly such a big selling factor for me and has been incredibly valuable and mentally healthy.
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I’ve almost fully moved over to a Linux Mint on a dual boot system but I need Virtual desktop for the Meta Quest and that only works on Microshit.
Monado + WiVRn is what I use, when using ny quest while traveling. Works reasonably well :)
Might need to swap the compositor between Xrizer (default now) and OpenComposite for some games or functionality.
I’ve been using virtualbox and a Windows 10 VM. Easy to set up, if not a bit slow.
I’ve used ALVR to play Underdogs on my Pico 4 on Linux. It can be a bit flakey getting it running though.
Might be worth trying WiVRn, which I’ve linked docs for in reply to the other guy :3
Nice. I didn’t know about that and will check it out later. I am also using ALVR to play modded Beat Saber multiplayer on linux and have a very well working setup and configuration by now but it’s still not great compared to Virtual Desktop on Windows with my Pico 4.
As a person using Linux and having a separate windows PC to play league of legends:
I fully support this toot!
Exact same thing, except I also use my windows PC for my school exam spyware lol
Lul, thank god they dont have that where I study
I am dual booting Linux Mint and Windows 10 on my desktop PC, what’s keeping me from switching completely is Lossless Scaling… I didn’t find a similarly hassle-free and functional alternative that would run on Linux
EDIT: Oh, and it’s a huge pain comparatively to overclock my display from 60 to 96 Hz. In Windows it’s a matter of running an executable every time my display driver updates. I gave up and I just boot to Windows anytime I want to take advantage of the higher frequency (which is a lot)
No League = perfection
Can’t play ForkKnife neither 😠
Why would you want to play Fortskin?
Fun with the bros (I’m almost 30 😎)
I play Fortnite regularly with two friends, it’s a way to keep the connection when I live across the world. We catch up on our lives while murdering teenagers dressed as spiderman, it’s fun
