i actually knew one of these powerusers in the early 2010s. he had leukemia, and i signed up to be a match to donate spinal marrow for him. i visited him in the hospital a bunch. he hasn’t acknowledged me since. that was a real bummer, but, i tend to see friends where they don’t exist so that might be on me.
i am a little bummed that i got permabanned just because i was so close to all of the reddit founders and early employees. i personally prevented alexis from getting arrested for trying to openly smoke weed on the street in pittsburgh when it was still the kind of thing that got you put in prison for a few years if your skin is darker than popcorn.
steve huffman in particular is a shitter and always has been. think of that kid you knew growing up who would make up that his dad worked at SEGA and that Goku was going to be in the next Sonic game — that’s spez, still, to this day. he is “mr. namedropper.” steve, genuinely, i do not care that you saw Beyoncé at the airport.
ETA: since people are being weird about phrasing, i signed up to be a match. his alias back then was Dacvac. i literally sat in bars and watched him mod /r/pics on an iPad. believe me or don’t, i’m just some schmoe online after all.
believe me or don’t
It doesnt really matter either way but I’m inclined to believe you because you aren’t exactly going to get kudos for being close to reddit founders on the fediverse so this is more like a confession than a brag. FWIW I enjoyed the context.
he had leukemia, and i signed up to donate spinal marrow for him.
if you had actually donated bone marrow, you would know that’s not how this works.
i had signed up to see if I am a match, which i would have donated if i had been selected. please show me where i mentioned actually donating bone marrow.
That sounds quite different. Wording matters, especially in times of bot posts and clout posts.
Also, no one signs up to be tested for a match with a specific person, not at those odds. So your new wording still doesn’t reflect how typisation (not sure about that word) is done.
The fuck? Yes it does, I lost a close friend to leukemia, and a ton of us went in to see if we would match with him. I don’t know where you got your info from but you %100 can do this. It works the same damn way with organ donating as well.
That sounds like it must’ve been rough. I’m sorry for your loss.
I don’t wish that shit even on people I don’t like, watching him go from a big happy guy who was 3 years from retirement to a skeleton in like 4 months was devastating. Adult leukemia is such a fucked up thing. He didn’t even know he had it until it was to late. Any time my wife and I, and his wife go out to our favorite Mexican restaurant, it’s like a nice little reminder he is with us still joking and eating the hottest salsa they make. I really miss him, but do remember the fun years we had with him. Really sucks he’s gone though.
Get your blood tested on a regular people, it might save your life.
I am sorry but you misunderstood the process. You do not check whether you match with a specific patient, but rather typisation is done to add potential donors to a larger database, from which hopefully a donor match is already available even before, because the chances for a match are so low that you can have a couple million people checked until you find a match. This is not blood groups.
Not even close, we worked with his doc and all had HLA tests done to see if we were a match for him. They also did the larger registery match list as well, but saying we didn’t is bullshit.
It seems the doc validated your feelings that you wanted to help your friend then, but also set you up for disappointment by not telling you the odds, and that you were much more likely to be a match for some complete stranger.
Jesus fucking christ, shut the fuck up.
The hell you on about? People do that all the time.
I’m part of a big group now that is in a pool doctors all over the US can check to see if they can find a match for people, because a friend of mine died from leukemia a long time ago. They couldn’t find a match for him, but maybe I can match with someone else someday.
BTW, gonna shamelessly plug NMDP. They do good work.
See you mentioned the important bit: we get checked to be in a large database pool for potential patients. Not to match with a specific friend, because as nice as that would be, it is very unlikely to ever happen.
So? There’s no harm in trying anyways. Why are you so against a small test on the off-chance it could save a friend’s life? It’s not as if you’re being asked to submit a whole kidney for testing or something.
I’m not “against” it per se, but I would think - given the odds - it would be shitty to get tested without participating in the huge database.
your continued effort in this conversation is admirable and also an admission…
Idek what reddits target audience is anymore seems to be chronically online teen girls typically on snark/fanfic social media pages are becoming the majority, all they talk about is random drama and reality shows so they arent getting banned for saying stuff lol
Digg went sideways because of “power users,” among other things.
Eh. There’s more than one kind of poweruser. The “people who are too online” are very different from the “accounts that exist to leverage social media for advertisement”.
Social media thrives on the whale users who are churning out content and hungry for engagement. It goes to shit when you’ve got your front page clogged with Native Ads and other shameless marketing gimmicks.
Digg’s powerusers were often revealed to be selling their influence.
Many of these accounts weren’t just freelancers. They were set up by marketing agencies, often with the explicit support of the social media hosting firm.
Like, its in the fucking business model to sell artificial engagement and promotion.
Might not even be a bad business model per say, if the promoted material wasn’t so consistently slop.
Mrbabyman
Rest in peace, I_RAPE_CATS.
While this is true, it’s funny to watch them wrestle with the exact same problems right now. Literally on the front page of new Digg right now is converstions about fragmenting the user-base with blocks/bans, and how to establish friend groups.
Wait is digg making some kind of comeback now?
Its web 3.0 bullshit from what I remember when everyone was hyping it up on reddit.
I was like digg all over again
I know there’s at least one admin that also moderates r/news. That’s how I got permbanned a second time. They don’t like it when you point out obvious bots.
You’d think Spez’s “landed gentry” would have better things to do.
One of my older Reddit accounts was blocked on several top subs for abusing the report button.
One of those super mods posted a photo of someone endangering their pet on multiple subs. The content was literally against site-wide rules but also broke sub-level rules on each of the subs it was posted. I reported the photo on each sub it was posted to separately. Unbeknownst to me at the time, that super mod was a mod of every single one of those subs. So, they had the ability to ban/block me on each one for “abuse”.
It’s kinda sad really that reddit mods get a power trip from banning people when reddit accounts are disposable unless you care about karma for some reason. I got banned site wide and from various subs multiple times and it would only take a few minutes to be up and running again with a new account. I even had a script to transfer over my subscriptions. Never got done for ban evasion either, despite having a static IP address. It got to the point where I’d create a new account at least once a month even if I wasn’t banned just to have a clean slate.
I tried creating a brand new account a couple of times and got permanently banned, after my original account got banned, which is how I found out about this site.
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There’s more than circumstantial evidence that Ghislaine Maxwell was a power user and mod.
the fuck
whoa, an actually well-researched r/conspiracy post. like, incredibly well done.
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Nah, why would she use her name if she wanted to stay anonymous.
Why do tigers have orange stripes in the jungle if they’re for camouflage and the jungles green
Because the animals they are camouflaged from have dichromatic vision, so to those animals they look the same as black and green and blend in well.
Humans are weird in our trichromatic vision, and are not the target of that camouflage.
have you seen it in action? works damn good on us too
I was hoping this would come up here.
Want to know what’s fucked? People on Reddit are openly advocating for Concentration Camps and the Mods have ID gated subs like alcoholics anonymous but if I bring up things like the leader of a sitting political party not only saying we should fund the Taliban with tax payers money but presenting it as a flagship policy for this party, I get my comment removed and my account shadow banned.
That’s where we are on Reddit right now.
Their Contributor Quality Score is basically the social media equivalent of a Social Credit Score. Not like karma, it’s a whole other system that demands you produce content for them or get shadow banned. It’s bonkers.
Jesus that’s Dystopian.
It’s insane that there isn’t more pushback against this. Like karma wasn’t enough, they needed to add a hidden gestapo system to degrade user experience even more.
I know, I can’t imagine the meetings that people must have had to design this system and then think they’ve done a good job.
I mean it wouldn’t be the FIRST time an inexplicably beloved and dementia ridden Republican has funded the Taliban.
I was referring to the UK. IIRC Farage is very much a monarchist.
AA is Id gated? what?? I’m pretty sure I’ve just posted on that subreddit within the last month and id never give it my id. not to mention it’s fucking anonymous.
I straight up don’t believe you
Yeah, so fun fact: a lot of support group subreddits were blocked under the OSA. Some were unblocked, but the point still stands.
The reason why they got blocked is that, when you look at sections 60 through 62, it’s actually really vague and could block a lot of dark, distressing but necessary content. Like children’s charities have voiced concerns over this. A forum for single dads and forums for people with certain medical conditions in the UK have had to shut down, and some sfw subreddits have been age blocked for LGBT content.
Also, there are two parties who effectively decide what gets blocked: The website and the Government, and the Websites don’t want to get in trouble with the government so they overblock. Some people have used the OSA for propaganda purposes, for example, the OSA gives an exemption for news media, so you can talk about things like Jimmy Savile and terrorism, but Twitter blocked posts that would be legal under this exception to claim it was the government who did that.
On top of that, it’s the websites and services who have to run the age checking service, which is why a lot of sites have shutdown or geoblocked the UK, because they don’t have the money or resources. In short, the law is vague and service providers had to overblock to cover their arses.
what does any of this have to do with AA
Because some of the age gated subs included help forms for alcoholics.
Subs are ID gated because of laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. Yes I had to contact my MP about that. The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they do about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.
The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.
You are the first person I have actually encountered in any discussion of the OSA who mention “concerned parents” because I don’t think they’re getting enough blame for what the OSA has done. Like they’re constantly either running articles like “The OSA would’ve saved my child’s life” or “The OSA doesn’t go far enough” and they have been the the crux of the whole shitshow from day one.
Like we know Data Collectors, Social Authoritarians, and Government Spies have been the people doing most of the leg work but I don’t think it would have passed if not for the years of “think of the children”. Even the parents of Brianna Ghey, the murdered transgender teen, is saying that “if we had the OSA, my child would be alive”, ignoring the fact the mainstream press and the government itself played a bigger role in her death than the internet ever did. The current fucking prime minister MOCKED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE in front of Brianna’s father along with the then Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
Yeah it’s a shitshow. Honestly makes me glad I don’t have kids. I don’t want to think about the ridiculous opinions I might collect just by being a parent. It’s like how parents who used to sniff lines and shag 9s suddenly want their teenagers to be celibate and not even touch cannabis. It’s honestly so bizarre. Like if having kids makes you this crazy you probably shouldn’t have them.
“Yeah but how is lemme any different?”
At one point while I was still on Reddit I learned that there was another site that indexed the users with the highest post and comment scores. I looked at the top of the list and saw accounts that were relentless repost monsters. I went ahead and blocked all of them, and my Reddit experience immediately improved, as I stopped seeing the exact same shit reposted over and over, day after day. Then the API-ocalypse came, and I walked away and never looked back.
Me: This video of a POS attacking a sleeping person (literally drop elbowing him in the head with the potential of snapping the neck) on the NYC subway with malicious assault says more about all of the people watching and filming while doing nothing about it than the attacker.
Reddit: You are permanently suspended from Reddit.
3 days ago.
Well, you referenced the potential death of a human which their advertisers definitely do not approve of. Luckily for them, the mods caught your horribly violent comment before it could reach the masses. The fact you were only permabanned, and not charged with a crime against humanity, is a blessing indeed!
Please be careful in the future when using words that might make someone else feel something, especially if that person (who you don’t know) might have to face an uncomfortable reality. It’s only fair that we censor genuine human expression in the name of brand image. After all, the advertisers are what’s keeping the lights on around here. If we stopped listening to their demands, god knows what kind of horrible society might emerge.
This happened to me about a week ago
And then somehow my account got banned for 3 days
And then once the ban was up Reddit let me know that they’d looked into it and found nothing concerning
Hey dude, he’s an attorney threatening to shoot people on the internet. If you legitimately know who he is, go see an attorney. He’s fucked and you can get some money. I am literally the only person in my immediate family who is not an attorney, and I worked in a legal-adjacent field for a long time.
All extremely valid points, and in the future I will disable all adblockers and self-censor to keep the
blood moneyresources flowing.
If you assume they don’t have multiple accounts
I would love to see a Reddit stylometric analysis
I wonder how Lemmy compares.
Well i just saw pugjesus move ~10 comms to piefed so…
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Most communities in the fediverse, to be fair, are pretty empty compared to their reddit counterpart
So like early Reddit.
Eh, we are a lot smaller still I think. Reddit may have had about ~40x the users that Lemmy has at this stage. But you never know, we may get some random spike down the line. When you have 1 or 2 people in a community people give up, but if you have 20-40 it may seem pretty active and stay alive and grow.
How should moderation work, instead?
I have always liked the balanced approach that slashdot has.
Users are asked by automation to moderate once they demonstrate reasonable engagement statistically. Then they are assigned a number of comments or posts to rate, not just updown votes but assign qualities, such as funny or insightful. This makes reading long threads more friendly.
Also, more reliable moderators are invited to evaluate other moderations! Accountability!
I am not sure why the model wasn’t popular elsewhere.
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I absolutely think that’s part of the strength of Lemmy.
I have no idea why the Lemmy devs copied the reddit “lords and peasants” model of moderated interactions, and I don’t know if Lemmy will survive long term against the tide of corruption that Reddit is in the late stages of right now. But at least it’s pretty easy to move to a different fiefdom if you want to. If, for example, your home server lemmy.world gets all enshittified and filled with obnoxious interactions, you can just up and leave and still keep nearly all of your engagement if other people are in agreement.
You can take a look at lemmy.ml or blahaj and see what Lemmy could look like if that wasn’t possible. To me, moving servers when stuff gets weird is a healthy thing.
Defederation by nature will help that. On Reddit if the admins didn’t want “RandomTopic” they could ban it or lock it and other variants. On Lemmy you always go to another instance and make it there and the admins of the original instance can pound sand. And if they go as far to defederate there are still other instances out there that federate with it.
I had a conversation with a particular Lemmy-instance admin after getting banned for having the wrong opinions, and you could feel through the screen how frustrated he was that he couldn’t just mechanically prevent me from saying certain things, because of being accustomed to being in an environment where he could dictate what conversations were allowed, and everyone had to be nice to him. To the point that it was this wild out-of-pocket thing if someone could speak to him without having to “talk up” to him. It was kind of fun honestly lol.
Lemmy recreating the free market haha
We had a whole drama cycle about /c/196 trying to move. But this one didn’t even get a peep :D
I am also very curious about this. Why do we have 3 196s?
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It can be noted that the original comm on blahaj.zone gets drastically less traffic than before, and I don’t think anyone uses the .world comm at all. Most activity is at /c/onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Sounds a bit like medieval pope drama.
But we get good memes out of it, so why not?
I love that comparison.
I do love how easy it is to block people on here. If I see the same article spammed over a bunch of instances, it’s block time for that user cos then I just assume they’re a bot.
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At the moment the Threadiverse has not enough users. But as soon as this is becoming a problem, it is the instance Admins job to carefully manage power user moderators. If the Admins don’t do their job, the instance should be federated.
We still have groups of power mods but they have less power here because we arent limited to a single sub and the rules of a single company. We also have an open mod log.
lol, you can see the same shit beginning to happen here.
I’d be curious to see what their AI permaban tag words are. So many words must be listed since they will ban you for violence if you even mention Luigi or say the word “dead.”
I’d also love to be a fly on the wall for those conversations to see their thought process for how they deny the first amendment and how many bots they need to replace the one person they banned to make the site seem full.
oh i can help with this one! calling gina curano a cunt is definitely one! now i cant have an account for more than 24 hrs without it being permabanned. they just ignore my appeals and requests to answer why i am permabanned over something as pathetic as that.
The fucked up thing (well, one of them) is that, with whatever new AI auto-moderation sentiment analysis thing they’ve employed in the past year or so, you receive absolutely no indication that action has been taken against your comments. Unlike shadowbanning, which has been around for donkey’s years, you still see your comments in-thread and can even get replies from certain users. It’s difficult to explain, even harder to prove, but they’re employing something such that certain tiers of users see your comments, while others don’t. Think skill-based match-making from the gaming world, but applied to thread-based social media. I hung on for quite a while after the writing was applied to the proverbial wall, but once I realized this I erased every trace of Reddit from every corner of my life. Now I’m here!
probably just an algorithm that groups users in accordance with known traits or interests or styles, furthering that ‘in group’ alignment feeling that comes from people who care about reddit comments lol
Just a point in all this. They can deny free speech all they want, they’re not a gov org. Only the 1st applies to the gov stifling free speech, a private org can do it all day long with no repercussions.
You are very smart
Its like a microcosm of US media in general.
Lemmy has that same problem, maybe even worse since our user base is way smaller
No because almost all the accounts here are people and it is unlikely there ate many psy-ops going on here unlike Reddit.
Were you here for US election season? Because there were piles of astroturf comments pushing a don’t vote narrative, with activity vaguely correlated around Moscow’s time zone. And they all shut up and disappeared right after the election.
And you could tell the difference between the psyop trolls and the genuine tankies, because the tankies are still here doing their tankie stuff.
Hence there aren’t many psy-ops rather than none. Lemmy isnt big or influential enough currently to be a focus.
I do think federation mitigates that problem somewhat. There are blocks between servers but its harder to exile users from posting on a third space that’s not blocked.
So glad to be out of that cesspool.
Me too, fuck reddit
Hmph. As a one time mod or top mod of several “default” subs I can confirm that the image is true.
I’ve been a mod of several niche subreddits and entire reddit is absolute 100% gamed and astroturfed. Being a mod is incredibly lucrative to the point that’s full career for many mods.
In all fairness it was bound to happen and it’s similar on all social media groups. The power and lack of transparency makes it incredibly easy to start profiting of your positions even when the goal is noble at first. There’s this great podcast on cat drug black markets which perfectly illustrates this.
I find it funny seeing people complain about LLM hallucination and inaccuracy turn around and prefix
site:reddit.comto their search queries in pure, blissful ignorance.I remember there was a guy making 6 figures in the CSGO community by posting ads for gambling sites disguised as memes.
