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MAGA just thinks that it’ll torch the Clintons and not their entire leadership. They will readily accept any half baked excuse for trump and co being on the list. They have no morals, only marching orders.
only marching orders.
Isn’t 82% going against orders here? I thing we’ve found an issue that they won’t just move on from which is why it’s important to keep the narrative focused on this
I sincerely hope that this is finally the line for them, I’m just not holding my breath.
No, the voters, as much as I despise them, are usually genuine with what they want. They’re just stupid and let the media mislead them into thinking there’s crazy conspiracies, and republicans will fix things. Most of them do generally care about pedophilia, and want this released no matter who is on it. It’s part of why they voted for Trump, because he said he’d release it. That was obviously a lie to anyone not in a cult, but I won’t hold it against them that they do actually care.
The party officials? They’re against releasing it. There’s MTG, who is on the right side for once calling for the release, but most of the party will do anything to protect dear leader.
Why are “MAGA Republicans” in a separate category from “Republicans”? They’re all MAGA Reublicans; even some of the Democrats are MAGA Republicans.
Arnold Schwarzenegger isn’t a magat
no idea why still registered as a republican… 🤷♂️
You could’ve stayed on with the belief that you’d mitigate the MAGAts at the very start but you have to concede that they’re only dragging you deeper now, not the other way around.
It’s the same with progressives and Democrats. I used to believe progressives should stay and help pull moderates and liberals left in the Democrat party. But it’s inescapably clear now that mainstay Democrats are completely unwilling to be dragged left, so the left needs to separate. If you stay in the party, you stay complicit with what it does. This isn’t a home you built or a nationality you were born into. It’s a job you went for and a side you chose; choose a different one now that the current one is soiled.
Even these stats concur with this. If you are wearing a monocle and a top hat and claiming you are a non-Maga republican you are so full of shit I think you are almost worse than the ones that wear their racism on their sleeves.
83% - 82% = 1%
Funny how MAGA is still the lowest.
“Survey conducted July”
The republican numbers are nowhere near this high today. Nowhere near. I’d guess it’s under 50% now. The propaganda machine has done its job.
The tragedy of it all is that I suspect we’d agree on far more if we bridged the information divide. Yes, even the hateful bigots would eventually see the error of their ways given exposure to the populations they detest so. Every day, we use the very tool that could solve the problem, yet it winds up inflaming our insecurities and having the opposite effect.
And, I’m not going to throw up my hands and deflect with “it’s just human nature.” That’s bullshit. We are constantly changing. Our nature and the influences that formed its current state can also change. Sadly, low information ideology and predatory bad actors, have proven to be a formidable clot.
Very similar to the Affordable Care Act vs Obamacare. Most people on both sides like the ACA or at least see it as a positive thing but the right hates Obamacare. They are lied to and do not know they are the same thing.
Each of these groups means something different by “release” and “Epstein files”, I’d bet
What Americans want has zero impact on the government. The wealthy in this country make the decisions. Hell, sometimes corporate lobbyists literally write the bills we pass.
And this is why Kirk had to be sacrificed.
Great. Now why don’t you try to unite on some serious shit, like wealth inequality.
i know it seems like a minor thing, but dear news: please refer to those with no party preference as such. we are not all voting for the independent party.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Independent_Party
edit: also acceptable is “Other” or “Third Party” for those aligned with a party that isnt D/R
I guarantee you that most people who are registered as independent don’t know that party exists.
Given that “independent” is supposed to mean “not registered to ANY political party,” it’s more fair to suggest the Independent Party change their name.
I assumed they were counting on people voting for them by accident.
Republicans and MAGA Republicans are the same group.
Honestly, from my experience in ground zero, rural, conservative America, don’t get your hopes up. While it’s certainly possible that I live in an anomalous bubble, this is a case where the online discourse doesn’t seem to match up to real life, for average, everyday conservatives in my sphere.
Like, there was a bit of discussion when the documents were first unsealed and it was clear that Trump wasn’t planning to release them in full and unredacted as he promised. That lasted a few days. New marching orders and new distractions came out and now it’s all crickets as far as the ears can hear.
Also, I’d be curious to see the source of this information. The graphic makes it look like this came from MSNBC, so I’d say, more evidence is needed as it’s a very biased news source so it’s not like you can just trust them to provide an unbiased view of MAGA and Republicans in general. Like maybe this poll is legit, but also, maybe this was a cherry picked data set that’s not really in line with other similar polls. This isn’t exactly a source you can or should inherently trust.
The last time it was united was to decide what the following line would be to the verse “Jingle bells, Batman smells”
98% of all Americans said it should be “Robin laid an egg”.
They haven’t finished redacting yet.
Now do the Charlie Kirk assassination.
