cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/31943458

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For the past few years any time there’s a public shooting, political or not, fascists immediately begin pushing a narrative that the shooter had some connection to the trans community, anarchist or communist politics, to migrant or Black communities. These are always tenuous claims but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, it’s time to recognize the danger of these kinds of mythmakings. They are calls to violence.

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    … but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, …

    Source?

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      There’s this one in Mississippi but as stated in the article:

      a preliminary report released earlier this week by the Bolivar County Coroner’s Office “indicates no evidence of foul play.”

      Though I and others are skeptical of that initial report.

      I haven’t heard of any other lynchings.

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        There was a white guy who found hanging a few days ago… Also in Mississippi but something like 100 miles away. I think it might have been before Kirk was shot…

        Anyway, the conspiracy minded already lumped the two together without learning the details of either. As is now the custom.

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        And the coroner confirmed no evidence of assault, so it’s not just the police or school leadership. That makes it more credible to me, but I guess we’ll see.

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      here are just two that i’ve found:
      Trey Reed
      Cory Zukatis

      as far as i know, there’s no evidence that links those two murders to charlie kirk, but this is america we’re talking about. two Black men, hanged, both in mississippi? that’s not a coincidence. it’s white terrorism.

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        I was aware of Trey Reed, not aware of Cory Zukatis.

        Reed’s death is still being investigated, police statements are very confident that it was not “foul play.” Yes, I want more confirmation than just police statements, but the investigation is ongoing, and I don’t expect them to say anything more publicly any time soon.

        Zukatis was white.

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          Zukatis was white.

          you’re right, my bad. that wasn’t known when his death was reported, my sources are outdated and seem to assume he was Black.

          my point still 1000% stands for Trey Reed. american police is descended from slave patrols. anything they say about a Black person’s death is to be taken with extreme scrutiny.

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            Read the news, I saw an article claiming the coroner found no evidence of assault. It’s possible that all three are covering it up, but the simpler answer is that he killed himself.

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            I also know that the family intends to have their own independent autopsy done, and are arranging their own investigation.

            I’m fine with reserving judgement until some of that comes out.

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              Oh absolutely, and we’ll certainly hear about it if there is evidence of foul play. For the time being, the only reason to suspect foul play is that the kid is black and it was public. People commit suicide in public all the time, depression doesn’t care about your skin color, and lynchings are generally meant to send a message (so I’d expect a much more gory killing in that case).

              I’m not saying they shouldn’t investigate, I’m saying there’s no reason yet to assume foul play. An investigation should be done regardless to find out why he killed himself (bullying? Depression?) so we can find ways to prevent it next time.

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                Apologies if my earlier reply sounded argumentative; I didn’t mean it to be. I just meant it as “This is also going on and here’s what I’m doing with the available information.”

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      It’s incredibly hypercritical to call out the right starting narratives before any evidence is released, while doing THE SAME EXACT THING!!! In your own damn post. I feel like I’m going crazy. This post gave me brain damage. I should expect this type of thing these days but good grief.

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    It’s so disgusting. The GOP and ring-wingers have such a hard-on for a post-truth world. All their lies could come straight out of Orwell’s 1984: They are the party of peace, Trump wants to punish pedophiles, Charlie Kirk practiced love, Ukraine started the war, their economic policies are good for the country, they believe in small-government… It just goes on and on. While those of us that care about actual truth are just rolling our eyes as hard as we can.

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      you’re part of the problem if all you do is roll your eyes. the lies of the fascists are killing people

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        Look, I get your rage but people do not owe their lives to the cause of good to merely not be seen as a “problem”. They just don’t.

        What exactly would they have to do to no longer been seen as your enemy? And why exactly do you think they would decide to change their ways when you decide that is what they are for merely existing and not throwing themselves against the fascists to be gutted? They’re just going to double down and say ‘fuck you’. And they would be right to if I am completely honest.

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    i cant yet find the word for it but it smells like a sort of well poisoning for headlines and search engine “optimization” - if a TON of agitprop gets out there, future searches/“research”/etc will “show” different and tailored results.

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    Stay strapped cos the right want to create victims. They want you dead.

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      My biggest piece of advice to anyone on the left is get a gun and learn how to shoot. The right is coming for you and no amount of poems, songs, art, or education is going to prevent it. No one is standing up for you. No one is going to save you. The Democrat party has shown this. We have to stand for each other.

      If you do decide to get armed learn how to shoot, with like minded people.

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        Hell yeah, I post nearly this same thing quite often. My G19 is always at my hip hot and ready

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          I’m old school. I got my. 38 in the car at all times. So sick of the liberals talking about guns and shit. Ask Marx how he felt about guns.

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            Nice choice, I have been wanting a .38 just to have one. I like revolvers just for the aesthetic and they’re fun to shoot. For real, libs need to wake the fuck up about firearms. Guns used to make me uncomfortable until I just finally tried it out and got competent with it. Any healthy minded person should be entirely capable of possessing one responsibly and safely.

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    It’s totally funny and silly, because their dangerous and deliberate behavior has been on-going since day 1 and humor is a coping mechanism. Don’t believe me? Ask the cancelled late night hosts.

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    This isn’t even the “past few years”. Knowledge Fight has been demonstrating Alex Jones’ (as a mouthpiece of the far right militia sort) tendency to run cover as ‘false flags’ or whatever for decades.

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    Who thinks it’s funny or silly? This is straight up “freedom is slavery”, fascist propaganda orchestrated deliberately or through willful ignorance to demonize the left. Pushed by Russian and Chinese troll farms for further destabilize the US. There’s a reason Trump was left out of the Big Boy’s club meeting a few weeks ago.