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        that’s in effect in Germany? They tried instating it here in Spain but Corruption industrial complex didn’t let it through

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          Not for all. But some of the big unions have them, so a lot of people get them, but not the majority of workers.

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            Nope, only in the good unions (IG Metall for me). Please support your union! Just pay the fuck up, it’s the only thing stopping these disgusting rich pigs from completely exploiting you.

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      “only” 20 of those by law, though. Most employers will give you more than that, but it’s not guaranteed

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        Depends on the amount of hours.

        In Belgium, if you work 40 hours instead of the regular 38 hours, you get 12 extra paid vacation days (ADV) on top of the 20 regular ones.

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          Not in Germany. The amount of vacation is based on the amount of days you work, not the hours. The goal is that everyone should be able to take at least a total of 4 weeks off per year. That means you get 20 days of vacation if you work a regular 5 day week. If you work a 6 day week, you get 24, but that is pretty unusual.

          So, if you work fewer hours, that only matters for your vacation if those hours are also done across fewer days. If you only work 10 hours a week, but spread them across all five days, you still need 5 days to take an entire week off, so you still get the 20 days.

          But anyway most employers will give you closer to 30 anyway, so the legal minimum usually only matters when it comes to things like transferring to the next year or paying out untaken vacation, because the rules differ there between mandatory and additional vacation days

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    Don’t forget the mode where it’s anchored only in one corner and you freak out because you feel it will fall out any moment despite you know it won’t

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    I lived in Germany for several years and moved to the U.S. and purchased a “fixer-upper” home. On the docket for replacement were the windows. To make a long story short, the cost of replacing every window on the house with a normal American window was within ~$1k of the price of a single “German” window. The cost to replace all of the windows with the German style was nearly the total price of the home itself.

    So yeah, I would love to have those windows, but they’re not made or at least readily available in US markets.

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      This. I have these windows in one room in the US because I installed them myself. IDK if they are significantly cheaper in Germany, but for the price to have one professionally installed in the US I could have actually replaced the entire wall with floor to ceiling windows.

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        Just checked a local factory, 50x50cm is 100 € for a regular window and 200 € to open both ways (entry level PVC, not including installation).

        All in all it’s not unheard of for bigger jobs to be south of 1000 €/window for professional installation, though you can get them for half that if you know the right contractors.

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    Guys, this doesn’t exist only in Germany.

    source: I live in Eastern Europe and we have such superior window design.

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    My father was a sales & marketing executive for a window company in Germany. You can prepare for a long rant whenever he sees “those dreadful sliding windows” in a TV show from the US or Great Britain. Like every time. 😅

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      Me, being smug about how I can have a bookshelf on both sides of the window and still open it fully without a large piece of glass protruding into the room:

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        But how can you stoßlüften your room efficiently without opening the whole area of the window?

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    Tbf it’s more of a european thing. I’m Italian and I’ve installed hundreds of these.

    Also… Assuming Liftup windows actually exist in America and aren’t just a myth. You.should be able to do something similar by jamming something in the window rail.

    Standard swing windows though… Pray.

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        We took my in-laws back to my father-in-law’s hometown in France this summer and it was kind of mind-boggling to me how most of the homes had no air conditioning but also no screens on the windows to keep bugs out.

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          This shit drives me nuts. The locals will be like “oh well, the bugs usually aren’t this bad…”

          Sure Jorge, the bugs always just follow me from the US whenever I visit. The entire European continent has such a weirdly abusive relationship with the very concept of climate control.

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            I do wish screens were standard here, or at least more common… But AC is typically an excess/luxury in most of Europe. Only common in offices, schools, hospitals and the like.

            People have started to get those portable standing ACs more often now that our climate is getting clapped, but window units are alien to us.

            Heat pumps are probably more common now

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        I have (in New England) a few windows that open outward and screens are just mounted inside rather than outside.

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        I’m not sure how windows are installed elsewhere. But here usually you have a good wall thickness. It’s not uncommon to have aluminum/ steel shutters that swing outwards. For privacy. some form of screen for bugs. And then on the inside casement windows that swing on the inside. Either the normal kind or the tilt and turn style shown in the post (I think that’s how it’s said in English).

        In this case it’s shutters with adjustable slats to let more or less light in. A steel “grating” (not sure how it’s called in English) for safety and a twin casement window.

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        Every home I’ve lived in with casement windows has opened outwards, and has had screens. They work just fine. I don’t know where you get the idea that screens are more challenging if the window opens outwards.

        In fact, it’s probably easier to deal with the screens. If the window opens inwards, the screen is on the opposite side of the glass, so to access the screen you have to fully crank the window open. If the window opens outwards, the screen is on the inside, and it can be removed or adjusted whether the window is fully open or fully closed. The only problem I’ve ever had is that if the crank is in an “up” position it can get in the way if you’re trying to take the screen off, but you just give it half a crank and you’re set.

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    For why these are superior:

    Fully open mode = big hole for air go thru.

    Slanty mode = very windy ez, rainy ez, rainy and very windy… just close window.

    But, the innovation I miss more than the windows were the roller shutters.

    First of all, light blocking. Forget blackout curtains or something, just roll down the shutters and no light is getting in. If you work nights or something, you can block the sun completely and sleep in the dark. Along with that, the light is being blocked while it’s still outside. Why does that matter? Light means heat. In summer you don’t want the heat inside. Block it at the shutter and it doesn’t come inside to heat the inside of the house. Compare that with blinds, curtains, etc. In that case, the light has already entered the house before it hits something and heats it up. With white curtains you’ll reflect a lot of the light back out, but you’re still heating the interior of the house. They also reduce noise, add security, protect in bad storms, etc. But, to me, blocking the light and keeping the heat out was so much more important.

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      Ich will zu Dort gehen

      Fr though I hate my shitty apartment blinds so much. It’s midnight with the lights off and blinds closed amd I can read next to the windows

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    The handles of the current generation German windows even have a 45 degree position; the window is then opened on a tiny slid.

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    I always wonder why are they associated with Germany. Aren’t they the standard in most of central Europe? We’ve had them in Poland since the 90s.

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      Because they were invented in Germany. But yes, they are the standard in most of Europe now, in some countries they are known as European windows

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    These types of window are great until you want to get AC in a rental & realize that you now need to attach 1-2 hoses to them whilst also getting a good seal. Then you’d actually prefer the American style slide-up windows (ask me how I know) :/

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    this is not a German thing. they exist outside of Europe, let alone Germany, as pretty much standard. I’m actually surprised if Americans don’t have to this. although I think shouldn’t be, considering in how many ways it’s such an ass backwards country.

    edit: just want to clarify that I don’t know whether Germans invented it or not; by “not a German thing” i meant it’s not exclusive to Germany.

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      German windows are (like a lot of things in Germany) extremely well engineered. This is a point of pride and whenever I have hosted Germans at my house (I’m Australian) they have actually brought this up with me.

      It’s become a bit of a meme.

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          If handle is rotated 180 degrees up from the closed state, window would tip slightly but not fall down. This allows room to ventilate while not opening window fully. Possible pros: doesn’t make room too cool, doesn’t let rain inside, presumably wouldn’t let burglars inside as tip point is too narrow to squeeze through. Maybe something more, dunno.

          If handle is rotated 90 degrees, window opens as normal.

          I havent met so many Americans or non-EU people in my life who have different windows in their homelands. But those who I’ve met, like our type of windows more than theirs. Also, these are sturdy AF and foolproof. Never saw one with a broken frame.

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          Two different directions depend on the handle orientation. The handle correlates to the pic below it.

          Took me a minute.