Also, they decided to cast Jared Leto. That’s enough to keep some people who’d otherwise watch the movie away.
Jared Leto is a producer for the movie and is probably the one trying to make Jared Leto happen.
I was one of the people who stayed away because of Jared Leto.
I was sooo gonna say this… I’d rather have anyone in the celebrity world
Also, this
A random famous person is accused of socially inappropriate behavior and they’re banned from Hollywood before any evidence has been presented… But Jared Leto is accused of sexually harassing and terrifying his costars, going overboard with his “method acting” behind the scenes, which brought up a huge public debate over whether method acting was a legit thing or just a sign of poor acting skills… and the dude keeps getting cast in big films.
Does he have friends in really high places or something? Does he have dirt on Hollywood elites? Why is this guy still making movies?!
I think someone else pointed out that he is a producer on the movie. So, I guess he has enough money to throw his weight around, and that gets him more money or something. Ridiculous world, this is.
I’m a really big fan of Tron, and I loved the far-too-late sequel with the excellent Daft Punk soundtrack, but Ares has 1) Jared Leto and 2) Looks stupid as heck. So even some people in their ‘target audience’ are taking a pass on this one. Stop trying to make every damn movie a ‘franchise’, hollywood.
I’ve only seen one ad, and it looked nothing like a Tron movie… Like are they even in a computer? Stupid.
The first time I heard about it was a week or so ago, and the description someone gave me is that the computer people come into the real world. I dropped my jaw and thought to myself that the idea is the exact opposite of what made tron… well, tron.
This movie should have been made 12 years ago
Jeez Louise guy, watch your language! There’s fucking children in the room!
The main problem is they are leaning too hard into the spectacle and not putting enough into the story and characters that would make the movie appeal to a far wider audience. The Matrix is still a cultural icon because of a combination of awesome special effects, memorable characters, and creative scenes. The original Jurassic Park still stands out as one of the best movies ever made, because it has awesome special effects, memorable characters, and creative scenes.
That is also before the massively inflated budgets for the last two Tron movies. They could have saved a significant amount of money by cutting down some of the special effects fight and chase scenes and instead showing more character interactions to make those scenes memorable. The later Matrix movies fell into that trap too, but not to the same extent. I keep bringing up The Matrix because if someone asks “What was that series of movies where the people go into the computer and fight computer programs?” that vast majority of people are going to say The Matrix.
The matrix is a classic because it took a basic philosophical idea (Plato’s cave) and told an interesting story out of it. The visuals and zeitgeist are what took it from a nerd movie to one of the most iconic films ever made. The visual language of it is still used. A political movement over a decade after the movie came out named themselves after a scene in the movie. People still talk about the ideas behind it and will say they’ve “left the matrix” as a way of describing a less than zen “enlightenment”. By combining an idea the average person could get their head around, but might be a bit heady for some of them, and a modern for the time fear (these computers seem to be more and more controlling us rather than us controlling them) it got people discussing it and remembering it.
I’d argue the other Wachowski masterpiece, sense8, was also so good because it took philosophy 101 (you can only truly know yourself) and told a story around it (but what if some people could know each other as well as themselves), it just had the misfortune of being kinda boring for the first few hours.
I think a lot of screenwriters could take a hint from that. Rather than trying to just tell a story, try to write a story that is built on ideas that you want to talk about or have people talk about. Try to create a harmony of aesthetic and plot with the point. And producers need to not try to shove these stories into easily marketable shapes. No story is great without risking being bad
It’s not as brainy as the past films and tries to appeal to the multiplex masses
Once again by trying to appeal to everyone Hollywood and corporate America have appealed to no one. Congrats, you made a movie no one wanted to see. Old Tron fans saw you trying to make a bland corporate written sequel, and people who have never seen Tron see a bland action movie with no plot.
And with is “brainy” in this case? Do they mean plot? That is crazy smart people don’t want to just explosions and that we want a plot?
In limbo is how it has always been. It is really impressive/amazing that Disney dropped 180 mlll into this “franchise’. Both previous movies were flops.
What made them think this would be any different?
I loved the original Tron as a kid, I enjoyed Tron Legacy. I will never see Tron Ares because Jared Leto is a black void of personality. I’d rather rub salt in my eyes then watch him trying to act.
I just went and saw it.
Honestly, it was fine except for every time Jared opened his mouth to monologue. I got no evidence other than my guts that say he wrote all his own dialog, and it’s like listening to a teenager try and sound smart every single time.
The soundtrack eats planets. Go bump that shit on loop.
Going into the computer is boring in a time where we are all in the computer all day. Make a sci fi series where the characters are transported to some green land with good food and sunshine.
That’s you watching lotr.
Make a sci fi series where the characters are transported to some green land with good food and sunshine.
Strange World by Disney.
monkey paw curls ; I hate disney. Or more like, I hate that these days everything is disney.
Right, but there’s ways to get disney stuff without paying them 😉
No I mean I hate their products; I hate their story telling codes. I hate how Disney tells stories. And by that same logic i hate that the American disney story telling structures are so widespread these days. It’s just a monopoly.
Ah, okay. We dislike some of their stuff, but not all. We agree it could be a lot better though!
Tron Ares is a very long NIN video.
I prefer just enjoying the soundtrack.
See, this really explains why nobody can get this franchise right: nobody knows what the fuck is wrong.
Well, I’ll tell you what’s wrong with this franchise: it’s boring. You have shocking and wonderfully stunning visuals along with awesome soundtracks, but the story is boring as hell. All of these three movies are just so dull.
Make a Tron movie about something interesting, and people will go to see it. It’s a simple as that.
The thing is - the original became a cult classic in part because of the “cutting-edge” special effects. These modern takes look flashy, but they’re not showing us anything “cutting-edge”.
Funny enough, I think the now-dated look of the original is part of its charm. I wonder if a Tron sequel would do better with a “dumbed-down” look.
I saw the original in the theater. It was exactly as amazing as advertised.
But it’s been a long time since then
I saw the sequel in imax. It was also amazing. In no small part due to the soundtrack and aesthetic. The plot and acting was meh. Deaged actor tech was also uncanny valley, so was the weakest part.
Good luck with that. 98% of Hollywood is derivative writing, and yet the unions protest AI.
AI can’t write better, I’d protest the thing taking my job too
LOL. downvotes…how many ripoffs of Aliens have we seen now? 20? 40?
How about F1? complete plot ripped off from Stallone’s Driven, and people loved it.
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How are we pronouncing “ares”?
TRON: ARSE
I absolutely loved this. Thank you
pls dont stop running it! ill be there soon to pay to watch it!!!
Or maybe it’s not good enough to become a cultural force?
TRON was already dull, but now you can watch a sexless incel-coded one starring a crook bloke.
Agreed. Only saw the second one but it was so boring that the only thing I remember from the film was the Daft Punk cameo. It completely turned me off from ever wanting to see the original.
Nobody knows what to do with Tron because nobody knows what made the original a fucken hit. I dont think you can get that again.
Tron/Wreck-It-Ralph crossover.
It’s a less stupid idea than casting Jared Leto.
just make it look cool, sound cool, and give it a vaguely sensible story.
