Makes sense as this is the largest perversion of government in U.S. history.
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good luck out there everyone. stay safe.
Ill be there, what about you?
Loud and proud.
Liberal here, I’m doing my part
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Read the name
Who’s Ronnie Pickering?
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Essentially (but sadly) this is a useless charade. Using one of your days off work to march and shout slogans is not hitting (or hurting) anyone who is propping up this fascist regime. Do this sort of thing during the week. Shut cities down. Make people in the C-level suites notice an actual change to their bottom line or this is all nothing but theater preaching to the converted.
There’s an interesting kind of poster that I’ve only seen here on Lemmy, the “why bother, it’s not going to work” poster.
Why vote? It doesn’t matter.
Why write or call your rep, they’re in the pocket of blah blah anyway?
Why put a bumper sticker in your car? Performative BS, maaaan.
Etm etm…
How do you feel when you see Trump stickers everywhere?
How do you feel when you’re in a neighborhood with pride flags everywhere? Is that different and better?
What about when you see Wellstone! sticker in deep red Midwest? A little hope that there are other people who haven’t given up?
Show up! Speak out! Be visible! Live into the small moments of joy where resistance lives!
I didn’t say “don’t bother” I said “Do it better and more effectively.”
It has to start somehow, somewhere. So stop complaining and do it better, or get out of the way!
Not a complaint, an observation but you do you
Keep it to yourself. You’re not helping shit with your post.
Problems can be identified by anyone. Immediately dismissing any sort of reasonable constructive criticism will destroy the movement from the inside out.
But please, continue shutting people down, you seem to know that’s best.
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We’re working our way up to it. What you’re talking about is a general strike and it takes a lot of organizing. Sign a strike card! http://www.generalstrikeus.com/
Doing it on a weekday means it can be more disruptive to the status quo, but that also means more divisive. Doing it on the weekend means it’s easier for more people to participate and it can come across as more of a statement of unity.
I don’t think one is strictly better than the other. I do think this one will have an impact.
Doing it on a weekend helps build steam and commitment. Protests like this normalize dissent, gather resistance together, and provide an onramp to resistance. Going out and breaking a few windows day 1 is what an agent provocateur would say to do, it just gets the committed arrested and turns moderates against them
I find more people on lemmy of the “stop saying thing you never said” type these days. Its like they want to catch you out on a thing they think is being said, almost as if they are pushing a narrative…
Lead by example
Showing up exactly where they expect you to and getting shot with pepperballs isnt making things better. As far as I can tell these protests are just outrage relief.
Getting shot with pepperballs for peacefully assembling in public tends to radicalize people, their friends, and their family. Pissed off people tend to be far more motivated in putting in the work to make things better. Experiencing or seeing police brutality first hand is a fantastic motivator when it comes time to boycott, strike, recall elected officials, etc.
You’d probably know that if you learned the history of any social revolution in the USA … but they really gloss over those movements in schools for some reason.
Radicalize for what?, more protesting?
Hey little bro, mom says you gotta do a 250 word essay on the civil rights movement.
How are those protests going?, is ICE still a thing?
I can tell you still haven’t finished your homework.
Etm etm…
What does that mean? Is it a typo meant to say Etc etc…?
“Etm” is used the same way as “etc.” It stands for “et merde” instead of “et cetera” which would mean “and shit” instead of “and others.”
Maybe read it more as “and more other shit like this” when you see it at the end of a list of a bunch of shit.
oh, thanks! I may start using that.
For something so pointless Mike Johnson and the usual stooges seem to be spending a lot of time talking about the upcoming protests using inflammatory rhetoric. One would think they might not bother if what you say were true.
If you/we can’t even bother to attend a protest on a day off for a few hours, how the hell are we going to do it during the week, to shut cities down?
God, so much for the “land of the brave and home of the free”. What a bunch of pissant cowards.
It’s easy to yell coward when it’s not your own life precariously dependent on maintaining a job you can get fired from without reason.
Yeah, I don’t think the Americans who opposes what’s happening understand that they’re beyond the point where they can lawfully protest their way out of it. So long as stock market lines keep going up , the administration can just ignore these protests. Hell the media is complicit and won’t report how vast these protests are anyways.
If you want to put your conspiracy hat on, this is controlled opposition in that it acts as a pressure release valve for their opposition to exert themselves and feel like they’ve done something, without doing anything of real consequence.
Are there protests a necessary part of resistance? Perhaps. It keeps many people engaged than would otherwise be. But they are not even close to being sufficient. Remember , were like 8 months into this.
Is that you JD?
Yeah dude the only one who thinks this is pointless is JD himself. Go shout your heart out tomorrow. I look forward to the fall of the evil empire by tomorrow afternoon.
Get your head out of your ass. PR stunts and “protests” where you get your ass beat by cops isn’t going to save our country. Especially when you show up exactly where they expect you to.
nova_ad_vitum is spot on about it being a pressure relief valve.
The info I have read says, historically, nothing will come of these protests until 3.5% of the people take part and even then doing it for one day, on a weekend, is much less effective than days or even a weeks long shutdown
This comes from a bullshit study done by an idealist without looking at material conditions and cherrypicking examples. There have been mass protests bigger than that leading to nothing all over Europe in the past 15 years.
Protest, by all means, but more importantly organize. Join an active and radical union, join a communist or anarchist organization and do activism through that, do mutual aid, support worker struggles, do civil disobedience and organize against evictions in your area… There’s so much you can do, and a Democrat-organized protest is just the tiniest step.
It bothers him deeply
See you out there tomorrow
It better be our future depends on it
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Nothing will happen this time, just like last time.
Whenever protests get bigger, the movement grows.
Nothing will happen? Why is the government trying to denounce it as Antifa all over the news? Why are they suddenly doing missile tests off the coast of Los Angeles the day of the protest? Because they are afraid. Because if they can’t inflict fear, they lose power.
Sorry if we’re trying to avoid another civil war. Now go kick some rocks.
I just feel like it’s just going to go back to pretrump life if protesting works. Which is better socially but not the goal imo. There’s been something wrong with america for a long time and nothing ever really changes. It’s always the two sides toying with peoples hopes and dreams for their own agendas derailing progress and replacing it with escapism and false hope.
I think it’s all broken to the core and there are so many bandaids on this carcass trying to mask the fact it’s already dead. And the death of it is deeply engrained and intertwined in the American lifestyle and culture of our living.
I think we’ll get to something closer to European-style democratic socialism, and that will be measurably better than what we’ve had for average people, but it will have been an awful lot of pain to get even that far. A stronger socialist base, one where the workers properly seize the means of production, is not going to happen.
I say this because the Republican Party will tear itself apart with internal factions as soon as Trump is gone. The Democratic leadership won’t know what to do with voters who actually expect them to do something. They may become the conservative party by staying exactly where they are, or they may also collapse. Either way, American conservatism as we know it will die as a meaningful political force.
If we want better than that, then giant protests need to be happening weekly, if not daily. The organization around it then needs to look to escalate things towards a general strike. I severely doubt this will happen.
I don’t disagree that the America we knew is done. However, protests allows people to network together - to see others are concerned and want change. This will be important for fostering the new civilizations that arise from the ashes of American society. I want Thiel’s Praxis to fail, and many democracies to emerge.
We need to break from the sociopathic “morality” that many have here. We need to remember that everyone deserves a degree of dignity and to not shit all over each other.
Does it smell like astroturf in here?
Not in the commercial sense I’d say; there’s plenty of people who believe in this sort of rhetoric, and this user has been spouting it consistently. Tankie-adjacent, if not full-blown tankie.
Kindly ingest feces
Lick that boot harder baby, they love it
Thank you for your attention to this matter
Good! And we will do it again and again and again.
Just leaving MPLS, huge turnout. We were near the front of the March. Made it all the way around and back to the beginning and folks were still lined up to even start.
I am less cynical right now than I was earlier today.
So what violence is planned or is this another block party like last time?
What kind of dipshit would openly discuss any violence they might be planning on in public
Why do you need someone else to plan it for you?
As an outside observer I am curious if this is newsworthy or not.
It’s newsworthy whether you personally like it or not
Americans have parties every year.
Are you just intentionally stupid or what
No, I don’t think having a party for Trump is in anyway going to influence his opinion. It’s just people wanting to feel better about themselves without doing anything.
I don’t know what violence the police have planned. Why don’t you ask them?
I wonder how many people at that protest didn’t vote in the last election. These protests are useless. Hold rallies for voter registration. Educate people about the impact of local government. Do anything but dress in a frog costume.
Some of these people may well also have voted for Trump and regret it.
Do anything but dress in a frog costume.
That’s only to discredit the accusation that Portland is a lawless city when ICE and national guards were sent. If they are sent to No Kings protest because of claim that protestors are violent, then why not dress up as Kermit?
Why would people who think voting is useless would go to a protest that you said is useless?
The Boston rally on Oct 18th says they’ll have a bunch of local organizations with tables, so I think they are / one can take a “both” approach.
Oh yeah, that will teach them. I am sure the other side of the broken two party system will totally fix things. This time, for sure.
Just stop pretending the us is a democracy, do something about your broken nation or just collapse already. This is just sad at this point.
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