• Asafum@feddit.nl
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    “So just to get this straight, you’re saying you have downloaded 152 … zettabytes … of porn for your own personal use?”

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    Where did they get the idea that that’s a more respectable response?

    EDIT: Doesn’t/shouldn’t work for their liability either. Vocabulary fail on my part.

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      They didn’t claim it was respectable, they claimed it made them not liable? Where’d you get this idea?

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          Why should a company be legally responsible for copyright infringement of its employees, if it wasn’t something they did for work?

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            If you or I can be held responsible for such activities from our homes, why give google an exemption?

            It would depend on jurisdiction of course, many of us live places that will give us(with help of a lawyer…) a bit of an out for guest wifi or TOR exit nodes, but ultimately, you know google is going to settle for little more(or less) than it would have cost them to buy these works at retail, whereas you or I would also get slapped with thousands of dollars extra(per item?) in fines and legal fees.

            They can afford to pay for the porn, but they chose to go the “we shouldn’t have to because its smut” route, and not bother trying to say their employees are responsible for downloading random books/movies/whatever for personal use. Do they get to use this out for CP?

            Also, unlike you or I, they have logging in place, such that they know which employees did what. Not saying they should name-and-shame, but they could(and should) easilly eat the cost and pass it through to those employees, whether it also comes with HR disciplinary action ornot.

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      I think it’s more respectable to provide unfiltered internet than it is to profit off someone else’s work without paying them.

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      I would not be surprised if Meta advertised such a thing to prospective employees as a legitimate benefit of the job. A built-in VR goon cave with 30 TB of material available. Limit 1 hour per person, bookings required 6 months in advance. Sessions subject to monitoring for security and training purposes. May contain trace amounts of Zuck.

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        Wouldn’t need any material. Hooks up to your fb and you can pick which of your pals to hook up to the milking table.

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        Then you should be less credulous. What is told to prospective employees is effectively public information.

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      You’re joking but it was 2400 movies over 7 years downloaded individually and not in bulk like they blatantly did with books. Apparently over 60% of adults admit to have viewed porn at work so yeah… someone should probably check on the engineers in the goon cave.

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    Torrent the Dark Knight to watch at home along and the media companies will sue you for infinity billion dollars. Openly torrent every movie known to man to train an AI and the media companies don’t do shit.

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      Steal 1 movie, you’re a murderer, steal 1million, you’re a conquerer, steal 'em all? You’re a goooooooood~

      this comment is oc, DO NOT steal

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      Well in this case they are trying to do something… This whole “personal use” thing is Meta’s response to a copyright claim against them.

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      It’s not a personal Jellyfin server, it’s training material for a possible future AGI. It’s going to know a lot about terrible horror movies.

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    “hey steve, did you download a shitton of porn while on the company network?”
    “Uuuhhhhh, it’s for ai training”

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    I can only assume the MPAA will funnel vast sums of money into helping prosecute these thieves? Any minute now right?

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    So their AI is so technologically weak that they can’t even blame it for all the porn downloads, eh. SMH.

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    Ok, but why would anyone bother training AI on porn? Seriously, I don’t understand

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      An article I read when this came up a couple of months ago said that basically porn was the best way to show AI unclothed human movement. Watching clothed humans move, you can get the basics but can’t see how the muscles are working. If you show it a Hollywood movie, they might see occasional shirtless scenes or artfully lit and blocked out sex scenes. Porn has the greatest amount of naked people moving their bodies.

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      Video generation, copyright matching, CSAM detection, those are just the first few that pop into my head.

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      Have you not heard that everyone is now doing NSFW chatbots? Meta is just trying to catch up with Grok and Chatgpt

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        I’ve heard about that. I just don’t really understand why would anyone waste their resources on it. AI training is too expensive to waste it on that.

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    As an aside, a great deal of CSAM is shared through Facebook, they’ve been asked by CSAM survivors to stop this and they said no. The advocacy survivor group Phoenix 11 submitted six formal questions in the US Congress to old Zuckface fuckface about it, as he deployed end to end encryption which makes this possible, which he dodged like the lying fuck he is. Zuck would sell it himself if it made him a whole dollar and nobody should forget that.

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      I completely disagree with your take here.

      The idea that we shouldn’t have services with end to end encryption because “think of the children” is an absurd take to have.

      I think you’re being upvoted because its anti Zuckerberg, but seriously people, think about the long term consequences of not being able to chat without being spied on.

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      Which is frustrating as every single time the government wanted to expand surveillance on regular citizens, preventing this is always touted as the justification. Now we have all the surveillance and the monopolies are like ‘Nah, exploitation is profitable’.

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    Well, someone at facebook needs to come collect their jerk-off trophy.