• xpey@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    238
    ·
    3 months ago

    Absolutely disgusting. This is such a massive issue here in Latin America, I hate how scared I have to be all the time of the men around me.

    • tyranical_typhon@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      3 months ago

      That’s a strange picture, considering how women have never pushed for equal representation in blue collar work or any of the ‘shitty’ jobs.

          • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            3 months ago

            We hire who will come in. Women have proven to be better coworkers than young men because they actually show up and do what they are supposed to. I’ve been here for nearly a decade, seen folks come and go, and I am less impressed with gen z every time they hire one, he can’t show up on time two days in a row and hide all day when they are here, and get fired in a month. Everybody here gets the same chances. Nothing we do here is that hard, it’s repetitive, not exciting, but not hard, and we pay above average for the area. It’s always attendance that gets the guys too. Make it make sense.

          • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            3 months ago

            I’ve been in a lot of blue collar environments in a previous career, and this is definitely something that happens. It’s not normative, but you’ll usually find a few construction companies or factories or warehouses in an area that employ a much more equally-gendered workforce.

      • Formfiller@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        34
        ·
        3 months ago

        Journey level construction worker here. Your statement is simply incorrect. This fight has been going on for decades. The EEOC did a report on this a couple years ago and found that women and black people either flatly denied work or are subjected to widespread discrimination, harassment and violence. I’ve seen years of this behavior everything from sexual assault to threats of lynching. https://19thnews.org/2023/07/construction-industry-women-people-of-color-discrimination/

        • unphazed@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 months ago

          Man, that woman got screwed over. Used as propaganda to rally women into factories, then after the war swept off and told to do “women work”. I really do not understand how society can claim women are inferior, see them constantly prove otherwise, use them as necessary, then dismiss them quickly after. Countries have seen queens for centuries, and somehow the other women of those countries are deemed less than men.

          • RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            I mean, on the point of queens, they were still usually regarded as lesser. Just more of a “lesser of greaters” type of deal if that makes sense. Highborn man>highborn woman>lowborn man

      • KelvarCherry [They/Them]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        3 months ago

        Women absolutely have pushed to break down barriers in the trades and blue collar fields. Women are also demeaned, under-considered, and sexually harassed every step along the way.

        • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 months ago

          Women are also demeaned, under-considered, and sexually harassed every step along the way.

          “Exactly, so why would they want to be there” -This guy probably

      • myotheraccount@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        3 months ago

        Not sure how it’s elsewhere, but in Germany most woman in blue collar jobs quit within the first year of training, because they are not taken seriously by teachers and colleagues (not sure where i read this… i think there was a study last year)

      • pyre@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        3 months ago

        just flat out lie out of nowhere lol. lay off the podcasts for a while

      • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 months ago

        Man, people out here just lying what they feel like before doing a basic search. I have dumb ideas in my head from time to time too, but I look em up to see if I didn’t just hear something wrong first.

        • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          Not sure how it’s elsewhere, but in Germany most woman in blue collar jobs quit within the first year of training, because they are not taken seriously by teachers and colleagues (not sure where i read this… i think there was a study last year)

          Not at all true, there are certainly organisations pushing for equality for women in blue collar work. First search engine result

          Search query. Who’s helping women with blue collar jobs. Whoa! first results tells me women are being helped with blue collar jobs. Hmm, I wonder why helping women with blue collar jobs was an article in the first place. I’m sure there wasn’t a problem before the article.

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        Weird, I guess I just hallucinated that presentation, put on by a painter(the kind who paints several kilometer long bridges)(who was a woman), I saw that included a part about encouraging the women in the room to get into trades.

        Idiot.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    144
    ·
    3 months ago

    With the number of politicians/mayors who get killed each year in Mexico, how in the hell is someone allowed to get that close to her? Holy shit.

    • scarabic@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      38
      ·
      3 months ago

      If I were the president of Mexico I wouldn’t be mingling in crowds like this at all, but yeah her security was wayyy too slow on the draw.

    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubBanned
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      3 months ago

      Mexican here, this was an act. She was in a great deal of political pressure because a prominent politician/activist not associated with the regime of the ruling party, Morena, was killed and she tried to minimize it.

      AMLO, the former president, founder of Morena, used to do this ridiculous acts too. Somehow a rando could walk to him taking a (fan) letter out from from his jacket, and hug him, in national TV, while his massive security team did absolutely nothing. Claudia Sheimbaum also has a massive security apparatus, this doesn’t happen without them allowing it.

      The guy apparently has appeared in older videos as part of her security team, and in some angles you can see he has a holster. We Mexicans joke that all the randos doing these ridiculous but very convenient acts have an army haircut. So far it has held true, your kids do better acting at the spring festival.

      Just as people demand Trump to stop distractions about the Epstein files, people here demand Sheinbaum to stop distractions and solve the public execution of Carlos Manzo by the cartels.

    • RedFrank24@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 months ago

      If the cartels wanted her dead, no amount of security would save her. She’s only in that position because the cartels allow her to be in that position.

      • TBi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        I wonder how much of that is true for any president. Like did Obama get a “talk” when he became president?

        • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          C. G. P. Grey’s “Rules for Rulers” is illuminating on that front, but I don’t think you mean soft power. I think you mean gangsters. And I think that most US presidents avoid such a thing by virtue of being the C in C of the biggest military on the planet. Though maybe they get a little bit of it from the Pentagon, I dunno.

          • [object Object]@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            Obligatory: ‘Rules for Rulers’ is a very condensed summary of Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith’s ‘The Dictator’s Handbook’.

  • eestileib
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    135
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    My boobs got groped in public the first year they were appealing to men. I didn’t even realize what had happened at first.

    Edit: I’m trans and my boobs became first attractive to men in my 40s. The incident I’m describing happened in the US.

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        3 months ago

        I have the same question because I believe that person is not a loaf of bread1so I also question whether they live in Estonia. I like to think we’re better than that here nowadays (30 years ago might have been different, 90s were hell).

        1 Eesti leib means Estonian bread in, well, Estonian

        • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          3 months ago

          i mean, ill be honest, ive heard this happening in select countries, and still is gross. To hear it this widespread across countries just blows my mind.

          • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            3 months ago

            Unfortunately it still happens in a lot of places, I’m just hoping it’s not as common here as the comment above described. Kinda sucks to raise a child in a society where groping is deemed acceptable.

    • frongt@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m not sure if that’s better or worse than assuming you were a cis woman and it happened at like 13. Because I’ve heard of that happening too.

      • eestileib
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        That happened to my ex-wife, by a family member.

        That she was expected to forgive and not make faces around afterward.

    • Dagotad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Scumbags like this only scream/harass/physically attack decent democratically elected politicians like Claudia Sheinbaum, Justin Trudeau, Keir Starmer…

  • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    People is talking in México, everybody is saying (including me) that is a smoke screen for the last events that have took place in the country: Waldos’ incident in Hermosillo and Carlos Manzo’s murder in Uruapan, both happening the same day, the Day of the Dead’s eve.

    Edit: If really is a smoke screen, Morena is showing us once again that you always can get lower. Only they can use a real problem like women harassment to make people forget that Mexico is mad and we want a real change.

    Edit 2: It’s already happening: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/05/politica/ony-y-onu-mujeres-respaldan-a-sheinbaum-tras-episodio-de-acoso I hate this goverment so much

    • workerONE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      ·
      3 months ago

      You’re saying she wanted to be groped, that she orchestrated it? That’s pretty fucked up to say. Anything to allow this type of behavior, right?

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

        Edit; they’re also blaming the party, not her specifically. Reading up on her, I think she’s OK. The party seems corrupt though.

        • scarabic@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          3 months ago

          One cannot simultaneously say that it’s a serious issue and then dismiss an incidence of it, plain to see on camera, with a conspiracy theory.

          • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            3 months ago

            …yeah, you can. Are you implying that no giverment has ever performed false flag attacks?

            Im not on either side of this, only learned about it yesterday. But it is a wild take to say that because you recognise a problem, you are suddenly magically incapable of looking at nuance.

            • scarabic@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              3 months ago

              I’m saying that men have groped women many orders of magnitude more frequently and Occam’s razor should apply. You can turn this into a false flag conspiracy and blame the woman who got groped, on zero evidence Just don’t claim you’re serious about women’s issues if you do. You can’t have it all.

              • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                3 months ago

                If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

                im not going to debate whether i stand for womens rights with you. But again, nuance.

      • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        You can imagine how much we have seen this kind of behavior before. Women that are obviously culprit, mocking off real victims of sexual abuse, wanting to be shielded by sorority. Here Claudia Sheinbaum “is another victim”, she felt harrasded, like Carlos Manzo did when he asked for help for its city and was completly ignored.

        • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubBanned
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          People downvote you because it sounds ridiculous, but this is literally what’s happening, this has been the playbook of Morena in Mexico. Think Mexican GOP if you’re struggling with the concept that we can also have shameless self-serving clowns as political leaders hoarding more and more power.

      • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        watch the video. if it were fake and staged then when you see the video of the act it looks like nothing. Again, the guy in the video holds her shoulder and leans in for a kiss, but stops short of kissing her because he was told to by her security. Are you a white american? I believe mexicans over you

        Again, if this were not taged then obviously youre in the right to be upset, but there is a potential this was staged. Why couldnt this have been staged as the mexican people in this thread keep saying

    • criticon@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      3 months ago

      Se pueden atender dos problemas al mismo tiempo. El gobierno es un asco pero no entiendo que tiene que ver la noticia de la ONU con la explosión del waldos

      • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        La ONU está respaldando a Claudia, probablemente todo el mundo se entere de lo que le pasó a ella debido ya que la ONU está relacionada ahora, lo que me da mucha rabia es que ahora existe una mujer viuda, que ahora es alcaldeza de Uruapan. ¿Quién la respalda a ella y lo que le pueda pasar? Acaba de pasar completamente a segundo plano.

      • Lena@gregtech.eu
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        3 months ago

        And pigs are smart animals, even when not compared to sexual offenders.

    • Lena@gregtech.eu
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      65
      ·
      3 months ago

      What’s the point of hating an entire group of people because some of them are assholes?

      Just say that sexual offenders are pigs, no need for sexism.

            • Lena@gregtech.eu
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              3 months ago

              You sound exactly the same as the people who tell sexually assaulted women that they’re “making shit up”

                • Lena@gregtech.eu
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  You made a claim that hyperrin is making shit up without any solid proof

                  I also don’t see what your goal is with all these sexist claims. Should we arrest all men? Discriminate against them? I just want to live in a society where everyone is treated equally, regardless of gender.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          ·
          3 months ago

          Technically true, but sexual assault on men is even more underreported than sexual assault on women. We can’t let other men know we’re weak. Same goes for non-sexual assault. Two exes have been regularly violent to me and I just kept going because I’m not admitting in public that a woman is beating me. I just took it “like a man”, knowing full well I could knock them the fuck out, but choosing not to hit back.

          So we really don’t know how much sexual violence is perpertrated against men by women. After all, men always want it, so we can not be raped by women. Unless it’s a particularly fugly woman maybe?

          My point is, toxic masculinity and all that. We don’t know how much is being hidden.

          • Instigate@aussie.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            3 months ago

            I know exactly what you mean. When I (cis man) was freshly 18 in the 00’s I was indecently assaulted by an older woman in a bar when I walked past her and her group of friends and I never reported it. I have friends who experienced similar who never reported it either. When I told my friends that night what had just happened I was told I was lucky to be non-consensually grabbed by a woman. I tried to tell myself that was the case for a long time; it took many years before I came to realise that I was assaulted and, by that point, there was nothing I could do about it.

            • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              Not who you responded to, but evidently someone needs to point out that you didnt read their question, or you maliciously misinterpreted it.

              Edit: nope they did actually answer the question, im just shockingly bad at reading which is very unusual for me.

        • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          3 months ago

          REPORTED sex offenders.

          Male reporting of sexual assault by women are hardly ever reported due to the stigma attached.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      3 months ago

      The same creep who whines and cries and complains about how the HR department is a conspiracy to oppress white men will be cornering the fucking CTO in the break room at the first opportunity.

      Only way to deal with these assholes is to shove them in a concrete box until they sober up and learn manners.

    • zaidka@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 months ago

      I mean you’re not wrong, but women aren’t much better. If this man runs for office tomorrow, 50% of women would probably vote for him.

  • muhyb@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    3 months ago

    I support beatings for such people.

    spoiler

    And maybe break their hands, just to be sure.

      • muhyb@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        I wish. Most people don’t even get serious times for murder. They get remission for some reason and kill someone again when they’re out. Serving time doesn’t change their behaviour. It might work for some people but it definitely doesn’t work for some. Where is justice if you can’t prevent it after seeing their previous misdemeanors?

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        The hand breaking could absolutely be doled out judicially. He didn’t say it should be done without due process.

    • tyranical_typhon@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      If we’re going to break out cruel and unusual punishments, we should start with the ruling class that is responsible for way more death and suffering than this guy.

      • muhyb@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        No opposing to that! Though they deserve much worse. It should be like this: Punishments are scaling as one’s class, so they should know their responsibilities better. If you see yourself above the society, you deserve punishment. And I fear it’s pretty common among the ruling class around the world.