“Whatever Donald Trump is doing in office, in the minds of Latinos it is not working. They have turned against him in massive, massive numbers,” said CNN data chief Harry Enten on Monday.
Enten pointed out that Trump was nearly tied with 2024 Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris with Latinos on immigration, where the former vice president enjoyed a 2 percentage-point advantage over Trump in October 2024.
Now, Trump has a -38 net approval rating with Latinos on immigration.
Saved you a click: it’s Latinos, and it’s because of immigration.
Saved me a click, gave you an updoot.
I fucking wish these people didn’t have to learn the hard way… “We” were telling them he’d do this, he was telling them he’d do this, but who know what they were thinking to believe it wasn’t going to go down like this…
Voters are lazy. I would assume it’s because they equated his first four years to prosperity (it wasn’t) and assumed it would be more of the same.
Few groups hate “illegals” more than immigrants. They did it the “hard way” so it shouldn’t be easy for anyone else.
Reminds me of this.
Plot twist - turns out they may just be rounded up and disappeared by the ICEstapo, too. People like Stephen Miller and Bannon don’t GAF if brown people have papers. The “illegal” rhetoric is just a ruse.
Idk how anyone would say the first 4 years were prosperous. When he left office we weren’t allowed to leave our house or stand closer than 5 feet to each other and people were freaking out about having to wear masks. People were hoarding toilet paper. That doesn’t seem prosperous to me
Pretty sure that Donvict and Pence were throwing rallies with the slogan “promises made, promises kept” in 2020, too. I kept thinking - really, they promised THIS? A worldwide pandemic that they completely screwed the pooch on?
Yeah, but we all got checks with his name on them and told we don’t have to care about the “weak” in our community if it inconvenienced us. Also racism and sexism and “faith” are back in the open . Isn’t that worth it?
I would assume they were happy to close the door behind them, when it comes to immigration. I think they did not expect their friends and family would be deported.
I find it hard to feel any sympathy for Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024. This guy’s whole platform in 2016 was being racist towards Latinos and he stops saying overtly racist shit for just a bit during the election and people fall for that? It kind of stretches my imagination to think of how someone could be that stupid.
Reminds me of the south park episode from 2016 or 17 when people were mad president garrison was fucking people to death and he was incredulous because that was his whole campaign.
This isn’t restricted to just Latinos, but when some of a cultures core values are toxic masculinity and machismo, those will always take priority over putting a woman in charge of anything.
He…doesn’t…care…
He only needed to get voted in once (well…twice…the first was a trial run). He used the time to take control of every single lever of power through cronyism or outright criminality. Votes don’t matter because no matter what the votes say, the people controlling the election will simply say “Trump won”, and when the legal argument against the obvious election rigging gets to the supreme court, they’l affirm it. This is by design.
Or, also possible, Trump will simply not have an election using an excuse of “we’re at war” or whatever.
He doesn’t need you. He doesn’t want you. You can all die for all he gives a shit, so long as he and his rich friends keep making money off the presidency.
There is no “voting” your way out of this bullshit.
The only way there is going to be a 2028 presidential election is if they carry that motherfucker out feet first before then…
Who could have predicted betraying the voting base that handed you the last election would go poorly?
Sure, but why would he give a shit? They’re doing everything they can to make sure he doesn’t need a single vote to stay president.
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Sure, but that would mean letting the people they hate and blame for everything bad ever happening to them, stay in the country. When the end goal is racial purity, you can’t half ass it and let a bunch stay. That would invalidate everything they’re trying to accomplish.
Hitler’s “pure” Germany wouldn’t be pure with a bunch of jews living their best lives either. The harassment of the latino population is very important to them, it’s not the end goal, but it’s the first and very necessary step in the lunatics’ plan.
Its absolutely not guaranteed they can compromise the midterms enough to prevent the complete collapse of their coalition.
But if their coalition collapses Trump won’t be able to execute his platform. Hence, the coup. The GOP is betting on being the ruling party of Trump’s fascist dictatorship. Also like the other person said, the goal here is a white America; the immigration thing is just an excuse.
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That’ll teach my fellow Latinos to not vote Republican for this and only this election cycle!
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I’ve seen this gif before. I REALLY want to watch what set of events led to this exact situation.
“Yep, that’s me. You’re probably wondering how I got here.”
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He voted for Trump
I still can’t believe people were this fucking stupid.
This was from before 2024 election, for example:
Donvict was pledging to deport millions. Just where do people think these millions were going to come from?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-mass-deportations-latino-voters-ec64f85e3633c9c7a8a247eaf9feb64f
“He’s not meaning to go and deport every family that crosses the border, he means deport the criminals and the sex offenders,” Peña said.
Every time I read shit like this I feel like I’m gonna have an aneurysm.
After decades of fear mongering they thought there were millions of illegal immigrants
I hate reporting these days, reporter phrases it like a giant unsolvable mystery.
“Whatever Donald Trump is doing in office, in the minds of Latinos it is not working. They have turned against him in massive, massive numbers,” said CNN data chief Harry Enten
Agreed, it’s such a punt. Why do any actual political analysis when you can just look at data. Why directly criticize trump for empowering a fascist paramilitary, weaponizing it against good, hard-working people looking for a better life, and immiserating hundreds of thousands of people by tearing families and communities apart. You can just point at Spanberger '25 being +22 compared to Harris '24. Fuck CNN.
Data means nothing to those who don’t know how to read it, and even if they do know how they ask the wrong questions still. Fuck CNN.
I wonder what could possibly be the reason they don’t appreciate being kidnapped by federal agents because of their race
“I mean” as I broadly gestured towards everything
I just don’t understand people at all. How any more than 0% Latinos supported him is a real mystery, but I’m supposing of the ones that did support him and did know that he is affiliated with the likes of Stephen Miller and lots and lots of his white supporters want to deport them - of that number, those people probably thought they are one of the “good ones”, he doesn’t really mean it other than getting really bad criminals, etc…
No, he and his ilk want to kidnap and deport you. Yes, this means YOU. Even if you have citizenship, even if you supported him, even if you are registered Republican. Republicans like Stephen Miller and the groypers and so on want this to be a white America for white Americans.
Read about Cubans, the GOP, Kennedy, and The Bay of Pigs.
Everybody in this thread going like, “It was so obvious he was going to do this, how could they be so stupid?”
I’ll tell you why: it’s because the Democrats ran as border hawks. Remember when they were saying, “We’re the ones who actually tried to pass a bill to crack down on immigration, but Trump blocked it.” The Democrats actively downplayed the threat that Trump posed by trying to claim that he was all talk. They completely abandoned any argument like, “Trump wants to build a wall because he’s racist,” in favor of “We’re the ones who actually want to build the wall.” If you’re saying that Latinos were “stupid” or whatever, what you’re saying is that the Democrats were lying and it should’ve been obvious to Latinos that they were lying, and because it was so obvious they were lying, they should’ve voted for them. Which is an absolutely insane thing to say.
When you have two candidates fighting over who’s going to be tougher on immigration, it’s really not that surprising that people who might be affected by that issue don’t vote based on that issue. And many Latinos have conservative cultural values. Absent a clear argument for vote against Trump, like that he’s racist, that his talk about cracking down on “illegals” won’t stop there, they voted based on other shit.
Of course, this reality is utterly unimaginable to the DNC, because it’s taken as unquestionable dogma that the way to win votes is by moving to the right and appealing to the mythical centrist swing voter. The reality is that if you can draw this hard moral line, and stand by it, then you can convince people that you’re actually going to protect their rights and that they should put aside other, less important concerns for the sake of defending this moral line. Even if that requires going out on a limb and adopting a more “extreme” position. Even now, there’s a lot of silence coming from the centrist Dems when they ought to be shouting from the rooftops about this shit, because oh no, what if we alienate the three people in the country who actually liked Dick Cheney.
I fucking hate anybody who tries to pull this “leopards ate their face” bit about vulnerable minorities who were abandoned by both parties. Go fuck yourself. Legitimately, go fuck yourself. You don’t get to stan a party that says, “Fuck you, vote for me,” and then act all smug when people don’t vote for them and get screwed over by the other side. Yeah, it was obvious they’d get screwed over by the other side, but your side was also promising to screw them over. Christ.
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It’s like you didn’t read a single thing I said, most crucially the part where I tell people like you to go fuck yourselves.
I read it. And it was fucking stupid. Writing 4 paragraphs doesn’t make you right.
On immigration policy, the survey shows Latinos place a high priority on allowing unauthorized immigrants to stay in the country legally.
Your own source supports my position, lol.
Read further. I read sources I post. They’re in favor of strengthened border protections
Remember when they were saying, “We’re the ones who actually tried to pass a bill to crack down on immigration, but Trump blocked it.” The Democrats actively downplayed the threat that Trump posed by trying to claim that he was all talk.
If I remember in the news cycle this bill was a pretty minor thing. The overall message I got was still mainly Democrats = immigration friendly, path to legalization, Republicans = throw these criminals out, though ofc the news I got may not be representative.
Also yes Democrats may have claimed some things about republicans, but on the flip side Republicans also claimed constantly that democrats are softies letting every one and their mother in, so it sort of cancels out.
Also yes Democrats may have claimed some things about republicans, but on the flip side Republicans also claimed constantly that democrats are softies letting every one and their mother in, so it sort of cancels out.
“Why didn’t they just listen to what the Republicans said about us?”
Even with this insane line of logic you’re expecting them to follow, Kamala still won Latinos. Only by a few points, compared to previous elections where the Democrats did not attempt to run to the right of Republicans on immigration, but more of them still voted for her. Just not enough to overcome the votes of white people. If we’re going to point fingers at entire demographics like this, then we ought to blame the people who are actually most responsible, right? But somehow, it’s always minorities who catch the most blame, isn’t it?
Who said anything about blame?
I was also told the translations were not accurate at all.
Also this is a good problem to have because the fix is relatively easy.
So they went from 50% support to 30% support. That’s a pretty hefty change, but given that they’re the regimes primary victims I have to wonder what those remaining 30% are thinking.
PS: In the current stage of American politics, voting blocs are meaningless.
Their only thought: “fuck you, I got mine”
“Obviously I’m fine, I’m one of the good ones!”
And Latinos are particularly meaningless. In addition to the oft cited differences in which nation they/their family came from, there are a lot of Latinos that are just white people with Spanish last names.
“Whatever Donald Trump is doing in office, in the minds of Latinos it is not working. They have turned against him in massive, massive numbers,” said CNN data chief Harry Enten on Monday.
It sure would be nICE to know why. I guess we’ll never know.
Raping children?
