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    I don’t know, man. So-called “Tea Party” Republicans have effectively taken over the GOP. You flip enough seats in Congress, and you’ll create a new majority. As long as it starts with the people…you can change the system.

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      26 days ago

      Tea Party? Where we are right now started with the John Birch Society in 1958. The only outcome of trying to work within the system is a constant shift to the right

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        Well, clearly the right is more organized than the left, then. Because they aren’t using magic to accomplish their goals. The mechanisms exist, we just need to start using them, instead of simply complaining about the fact that other people are better at using those mechanisms against us.

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          It doesnt mean the right is more organized, it means the socioeconomic power structures favor right wing policies that work to dismantle what power the working class has ever managed to grasp. Capitalism is the root of the problem, and capital simply will not incrementally cede it’s power away to The People through the mechanisms built to preserve said power.

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            It doesnt mean the right is more organized, it means the socioeconomic power structures favor right wing policies that work to dismantle what power the working class has ever managed to grasp.

            That’s not an accident. It’s also not a natural phenomenon. It is deliberate. That’s what makes it “organized”. Generations of intentional effort have gone into building and maintaining it.

            Capitalism is the root of the problem, and capital simply will not incrementally cede it’s power away to The People through the mechanisms built to preserve said power.

            “Capitalism” is not a conscious entity. “Capitalism” doesn’t “do” any of those things. People do. We choose the systems we live by. The problem is that some people have taken the time and made the effort to commandeer those systems for their own benefit, by exploiting the rest of us.

            That doesn’t make us helpless. Collective action gives us power. We just need to use it.

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    …what do you actually think can happen? A revolution and implementation of a new system from the ground up? Please do explain, how do you think that’ll get accomplished?

    Go outside for a bit, maybe get offline for a while.

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      Hows that incrementalism working out for you? Your party has convinced you a slow process results in progress. The only difference over the last 50 years is democrats have become the things 1980s democrats hated

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        It may come as a surprise to you that other parties and other countries exist. It may also come as a surprise to you that there are very many examples in history where the violent overthrow of an existing system lead to one clique of assholes getting swapped out for another. I’m not aware of any where this actually resulted in a better society.

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        My party? And what is that? I’ll vote for the least bad candidates but I don’t have a party in American or European politics. The DNC is 90% as bad as the RNC.

        Please study history a little, and share the percentage where revolutions resulted in a net positive in the same generation. I’ll wait

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          Your lesser evil that you were willing to vote for is your party, which means you are complicit in any activity that they engage in, even that lesser evil that you believe exists.

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            I don’t think you know how anything works, but I’ll encourage you to keep learning about the history of revolutions, since you seemed to just ignore that point.

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              Being lectured by someone supporting the party that keeps making the same mistakes over and over and over again doesn’t hold any weight