• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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      I had chicken pox really bad as a kid. I had from the tips of my toes to the top of my head … spots in every part of my body - EVERY PART OF MY BODY! … I even have a few left over scars from that ordeal.

      I’m middle aged now and I had shingles about five years ago and it was horrible. It burns and itches and at the height of the infection it feels like you suffered from third degree burns and the damned skin itches and you keep wanting to touch it.

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        My experience with chicken pox mirrors yours - they were everywhere. I’m approaching middle age (or there, depending on who you ask (👉゚ヮ゚)👉), and I’m hoping it doesn’t happen to me. But I know it’s just hanging out there in my spine… waiting.

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          Get that shingles vaccine asap. My Dad is the most stoic person I know when it comes to sickness and he literally CALLED ME ON THE PHONE howling about how bad it hurt. Don’t be my Dad, y’all.

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          Brought about by stress … I was going through a fairly stressful time with work, travelling to a new place and trying to make ends meet. Keep a good diet, exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and keep the stress down … if you mess any of those up, you’re increasing chances of that infection just creeping up. Like others have said, it’s probably best to just get the shingles vaccine.

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          Get the vaccine when you can. Because you’re right, and depending which nerve path it chooses it can be bad or it can be worse

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      I had chicken pox twice.

      Once the normal variety when I was like 6 or whatever, then when I was like 11 or so I got it again when visiting my grandma who just hosted young kids. It was largely the same, except it had rings around the spots. They did tests and confirmed it was a mutated variety of common chicken pox.

      I’m terrified of shingles outbreaks because I may have two strains lying dormant in my body, but I’m “too young for the shingles vax”

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        Yeah, I’d get the shingles vax in a heartbeat, but I’ve gotta wait another 6 years. Meanwhile I know several people who developed shingles in their forties and have lingering issues from it (particularly ophthalmic). The vaccine needs to be tested and approved for younger adults. But I doubt that’ll happen. They’ll just wait until those of us who got chicken pox as a kid are old enough for the shingles vaccine, and who cares if we get shingles in the meantime!

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          I’ve always wondered if there’s a chance we make the shingles virus extinct, but never looked into whether the chicken pox vaccine prevents it entirely

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      Thank you. I have a friend who went through this as an adult and ended up with nerve damage. A vaccine would have spared him that pain.

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    “long-term complications of childhood chicken pox” is one search that they don’t do

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      Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research

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        Even if they get the right search terms, they’ll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.

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        What do you mean I have to “read a book”? I’ll just find a wellness blog to tell me the thing I want to hear.

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        Or even having the time to do all this research I apparently need to do.

        Not to mention that some research ends up behind pay walls and knowledge barriers.

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    Once upon a time trepanning - drilling a hole in the skull to “let evil spirits out” - was a common medical practice. We don’t do that anymore either, for what I should hope are obvious reasons.

    Mercury was once used as a treatment for syphilis, among many other things. Lobotomies, radium “treatment”, cocaine and heroin was used as a treatment for children with a cough, smoking was recommended as a treatment for asthma, electroshock therapy was used for damn near everything, induced insulin comas, arsenic and lead, tapeworm diets…

    You all get the point.

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    Why would it being acceptable 30 years ago mean anything at all in this context? Who fucking cares what was acceptable 30 years ago?

    Science progresses. We understand things more over time. That’s how it works.

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      It’s even worse than this. From Wikipedia:

      The chickenpox vaccine first became commercially available in 1984.[10] It was first licensed for use in the US by Merck, under the brand name Varivax, in 1995.

      So in a way it being acceptable 30 years ago does mean something. Not what the author thought though.

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      Lmdao can you even do your own research? Sience goes counter upside in a clock by three west direction, not forwards.

      And vaccines are full of tiny bees that tell the government whenever you masturbate. Do you WANT masturbation bees? Pffffffff

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    Shingles fuckin sucks. Had it crop up when I was in 6th grade, only like 5 or 6 years after having chicken pox. Miserable week or so. Not that I’ll have to, but I wouldn’t make my kids go to school if they had shingles.

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    Chickenpox isn’t quite as bad as some of the other viruses but Shingles is horrid and you can only get shingles if you’ve had chickenpox which is more that enough reason to vaccinate your children. All I can wish on her is chronic chickenpox with exposure on her face and scalp.

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      It’s awful as an adult, though. I got it when I was older and ended up in the hospital when I complained to my parents about how the walls had started melting. I had a raging fever and pneumonia.

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      I have a older relative whose shingles affected his nervous system and it led to encephalitis.

      I wonder if she has natural remedies for that.

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    I had chicken pox as a kid and while it wasn’t horrible, I def could’ve done without a lesion appearing both on my dick and the roof of my mouth.

    Anti vaxxers are fucking bonkers

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      I had dick pox too. I remember being like, 9, and dabbing that horrible yellow ointment on my foreskin and shaft. That was my first “I’m too old for this shit” moment

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    We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.

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      From then on, always looking down at the ground, brooding, scratching the dirt with his feet, eating bugs, and going crazy for buckets of scraps

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    Chicken pox vaccine is a relatively recent invention. Before vaccination we knew that chicken pox was bad in kids but very bad in adults so better to get it as a kid if you had to get it at all. The vaccine changes the equation and not being able to evaluate that is a sign of stupidity. The vitriol from other parents is because she is hurting kids because she’s stupid.

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    A colleague got shingles with … 55? He had stroke-like symptoms, i. e. half of his face is drooping, he lost control of one of his eyelids, and his mouth doesn’t close completely anymore.

    What’s the point of giving every virus the chance to thrive?

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    It’s absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles, but if you get the vaccine, you get neither. But hey, I get it, big pharma is a monster, but many that rally against vaccines also use Ozempic, and plastic surgery etc. Is RFK really onto a thing with vaccines when he’s taking steroids?

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      It’s absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles

      It’s not one or the other though. If you don’t get chicken pox you can’t get shingles

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      It’s also an anti-vaxx lie that vaccines somehow abuse the immune system in any way. The immune system is immensely complex to understand, let alone control. The most effective way for vaccines to work is to allow the immune system to do its thing. The immune system works to its full effect with vaccines, you simply do not get advanced symptoms or complications with vaccines compared to the real disease.

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    The vaccine was just after I got it. Miserable. I lived in an oatmeal bath. My poor mother got it as an adult (when we got it and gave it to her)

    She was worse up in all ways.

    I’d have gnawed someone’s ankle off to have gotten the vaccine instead. But especially for my mother to have gotten it.

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    In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)

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    Yeah, I don’t wanna hear shit about chickenpox being good for a child. I was too young to be able to get the vaccine and because of that, there’s a chance I get the complications of getting pox that you get later in life. It wasn’t even my own parents fault, since I caught it in daycare.

    Also, if I remember correctly, Japan rolled out the first chickenpox vaccines to prevent it from becoming a mass epidemic on their island nation.

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    It’s shingles. That’s the complication that can happen later in life after having pox.