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Because we live in a society of disingenuous assholes. The end.
it’s less important for the far right who currently holds control to do things than it is to be seen as doing things. i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every outlandish conspiracy theory is a distraction from a believable conspiracy. this does a few things:
chemtrails are, ultimately, a distraction from that what’s poisoning our air and water isn’t additives in jet exhaust, but instead the byproducts of burning fossil fuels like jet fuel. by addressing chemtrails without addressing fossil fuels, the ruling class performed a bit of trickery. for the people who believe in chemtrails and are worried about the poisoning of our air and water, this is now a solved problem. for the people who aren’t keyed in hardly at all, this seems like a compromise between the right and the left, and like some progress is being made to protect our natural habitats.
if we want to survive our most powerful weapon is to continue speaking truth into the world
Your theory is completely provable. Remember how loud the pizza-gate nut jobs were? And now that some of the Epstein documents are starting to come out, it’s all crickets.
for sure. i didn’t come about this theory with zero thought haha. see also how many people will tell you the world is controlled by a secret cabal of yiddish speaking aliens manipulating lizard people billionaires and then the panama papers come out and NOTHING
I’ve peeped 8chan a couple times over the last year and the conspirators are still conspiracying re Epstein but the mainstream right has abandoned them because it’s not politically convenient to bring raging right wing antisemitism into the narrative right now. I learned a new slur every time I visited.
I would like to think that speaking the truth is the solution but it only works with those who actually have the capacity to think and reason. In contrast, big money has the luxury of buying and promoting the media view points that they want us to believe. Most people take the easy route that doesn’t involve the work of thinking. Discerning truth is work - believing bullshit is the easy route.
It has been my experience that both those on the left, and right, fall for the “chemtrail” crap.
As climate change kills folks off, some will survive by learning.
When people begin to starve or become homeless they will be forced to confront survival rather than conspiracy nonsense.
Several weeks ago I overheard two of my neighbors making small talk about the weather, and how it would be perfect if it weren’t for all those gosh-darned chemtrails everywhere.
That is the view of reality that is guiding public policy today.
God isn’t real either, but politicians keep passing laws to force their delusions onto others.
The same reason there’s tariffs on penguins.
Chemtrails; now that’s an ancient conspiracy theory that I didn’t expect to see making a comeback. Can’t wait to see laws against GMOs. /s
Because they’re fucking stupid
Good news: We should see fewer CONtrails soon; https://nebula.tv/videos/simonclark-how-airlines-can-halve-their-climate-impact (or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoOVqQ5sa08 )
We COULD see fewer contrails.
It require voting for leaders and lawmakers who will give airlines insentives to reduce their environmental impact. It could be regulation, taxes, tax breaks, wharever works best to reduce harm from aviation.
I remember the video saying that the airline they engaged with for the study and one other airline were already implementing the changes voluntarily.
While I agree that the right leaders and policies continue to be important, even on this very specific issue, I believe we’ll see an improvement without another round of voting.
Because everyone in that government is a moron.
Aren’t contrails like, really bad for climate? And it would be really easy to divert some routes to shave off a significant part of contrail-caused warming?
You’ve got it backwards. Contrails have a very minor cooling effect caused by reflecting incoming sunlight. It’s just small in relation to the warming caused by planes burning fuel.
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Yes. Persistent contrails - i.e. aviation-induced cirrus clouds which spread in supersaturated air layers - are indeed bad for the climate, but often their effect is ignored as hard to quantify, while the simpler small effect of short-lived contrails is conveniently cited instead.
Also, while all high clouds have a warming effect by reflecting infra-red radiation back to earth, there can also be a cooling effect due to reflecting solar radiation, which is greater when the angle of the sun is low. So the net effect is warming in the middle of the day and at night, but cooling in morning and evening.
Thanks for the insightful response, as with most things, there’s nuance missing from the conversation
Yes. Kinda, just a little regulation could reduce them a lot.
But here’s the thing. Congress does not give a shit about the climate. They will never pass anything like you’re suggesting because they’re for sale. Only a major structural change that eliminates coercion/bribery from regulatory votes will work.
Congress as we know it fighting climate change is about as realistic as unicorns and Bigfoot.
Politicians pass pointless laws for the same reasons why you invent ridiculous tasks at work. To give the impression that you (or they) are accomplishing something and to get paid.
Except you do it for minimum wage and it directly affects maybe 2 people worldwide. Plus, you’re the one paying the politicians’ salary.
Be more specific. Don’t just use the word “politicians.” You’re providing cover for them by presenting both sides as the same. At least in today’s political landscape, it’s only the right that gets caught in these endless fever dreams of imagined threats. It’s just one mad thing after another with Republicans, as they actively court the deranged and crazy. Anti-vax, chemtrails, etc. used to be fairly nonpartisan, but the Republican party has completely absorbed the conspiracy theorist crowd from both sides of the political spectrum. Just consider all the fever dreams Republicans have chased even just recently:
Don’t help Republicans. This isn’t a “politician” issue. This is a Republican issue. There is simply nothing comparable on the left to the right’s need to endlessly whip up their 5 minutes of hate against the other. Only one side embraces this kind of madness. And by using neutral terms like “politicians,” you are ultimately enabling this behavior.
Stop using the word Republican, that was just the larval stage which morphed into its final form: MAGA. This is where the Republican party has been rampaging toward for decades, and they have finally arrived.
The Republican party, and it’s purported ideals, is as dead as the Whigs, and should only be referred to in an historical or scholarly context.
Just call them MAGA from now on.
The Republican party, and it’s purported ideals
They haven’t operated on ideals since the early 1880s.
I mean, unicorn is the official animal of Scotland, so can we really rule them out?
NoFX nailed it with Idiots Are Taking Over
Good. Next we need to get laws passed banning big pharma from putting 5G chips in vaccines.
Then we can pass a law banning autism in vaccines.
Or just ban vaccines. I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Whatever Dr Oz and RFK Jr says.
They’re preemptive, CYA kinds of laws.
Like the law against whale hunting in Utah.
It all seems harmless until some nutbar prosecutor drags you to court in Provo on charges of whale poaching (or more likely sues your airline for making chemtrails).