Former Trump administration official and wife of top Trump aide Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, posted Saturday on X (formerly Twitter) an image of Greenland covered in the U.S. flag with the text “SOON”.

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    Bloodthirsty psychopaths

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      Money hungry. It’s all for the resources. They’ll do it relatively bloodless if you let 'em, but they aren’t going to stop till they are made to.

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    This is the kind of imperialism that caused both world wars. Stop it now, or we all die in inevitable nuclear holocaust.

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        We should stop using the term “America” for the USA. America is so much more than that one evil state.

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        We did it to the Japanese, we’re doing it to Mexicans. The cages have been there for over a decade with plenty of coverage but no one stopped them.

        We have secret police known as undercover officers in unmarked vans. That’s just on the local level of militarized police.

        We have the SS known as ICE that was set up to arrest brown people post-9/11.

        We gave up freedoms out of fear and now they use that fear to arrest anyone who questions the state.

        We’ve been the bad guys since the Patriot act. When people protested it and got beaten by police it was a meme in 2004. “Don’t trade me bro!”

        We’re fucked. We only have ourselves to care for. Be kind to your friends and family, don’t listen to a god damn cop.

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      Here’s the problem. War has always been the go-to solution when the USA had major troubles. At this point, I’m convinced World War III is inevitable. Simply because it’s the only way for the USA to try and fix its economy. Otherwise it’s recession or worse once the AI bubble pops.

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    Can you yanks do that “well armed militia” thing some of you have been banging on about in defense of mowing down children with automatic weapons?

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      How has it not been made clear to you that the 2nd amendment people ARE Trump supporters.

      Plus the firearms people have access to don’t work against the state. They really want people to try, but that’s the problem with left leaning people, we think before we act.

      These fuckers are putting MRAVs and other armor in the streets. Your small arms fire just tells them where you are loudly and quickly.

      We must never fight on their terms. We must never fight how they are trained.

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            The import and sale ban does not apply to drones already authorized by the FCC, meaning you can still buy and use existing models (like current DJI drones) until stock runs out, but future models won’t be available.

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          Huge chunks of our problems are Rupert Murdoch (Australia), Leon Musk (South Africa), Peter Thiel (Germany), Congress (Israel), and the POTUS (Russia). Maybe the rest of the world can not bother with America’s problems, but deal with the ones you’ve sent us?

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                your quick to blame current problems on foreigners, while ignoring that those people came to the us BECAUSE of its existing imperialistic politics.

                They’re at best a symptom of a larger problem.

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                  The current regime COLLABORATED with the Kremlin to get in power. As is a lot of other fascist movements in the world. I think we can safely blame a foreigner.

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                  No, I’m cranky from people upthread putting all of the responsibility on us, when their countries ain’t so sweet and innocent. There’s a line a kilometer wide in fluorescent yellow between the 9/11 attacks back to U.S. imperialism, for instance, but Britain, Netherlands, Germany, and Russia all had their own brands of imperialism which are far more responsible for raising up those men to wealth. This is more a problem of class than nationality.

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              And the desire not to vote is a human problem, far from uniquely American. Denial and dissociation are how people get through lots of life, if my own experience as well as conversations with Russian and Chinese friends are any indicator. And the reason that the wealthy foreigners come here is that the U.S. has been the current center of economic power. They would have gone to London in the 19th century.

              And, for the record, I don’t actually expect that non-wealthy South Africans can do anything about Musk, but then, neither can non-wealthy Americans.

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                the desire not to vote is a human problem

                Maybe in your mind, but it’s the reason the US is where it’s at.

                It isn’t the 19th century. The reason Murdoch went to the US is a fertile ground to milk for that wealth.

                Yes, non wealthy Americans could have done something about Musk…voted, because he himself admitted had Harris won, he’d be in jail.

                Edit: fixed quote

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      The US government has made it so a well armed militia cannot overpower them in any shape or form. Want to tell us how to shoot down a drone at 10,000 feet before it vaporizes us? I’m all ears.

      The only way this gets fixed is through a (unlikely, by design) general strike, other countries dumping US bonds, or if by some miracle the midterms actually happen.

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        The US military will be defeated financially, not on the battlefield. In the end, the US empire is collapsing for the same reason every other empire in history has collapsed. Ultimately they are not financially sustainable. When you build your whole economic model on continued expansion and exploitation, the whole thing collapses once you reach hard limits and can no longer expand.

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          Indeed, well put. It will never be defeated by US citizens, only if the bottom line of the military industrial complex is affected.

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        There’s a general strike happening after the midterms, its won’t be till 2028 though when that Congress steps in.

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          I’ll believe it when I see it. People in the US are only getting poorer and more unable to afford to strike (by design).

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      Have you petitioned your government to send MANPADS and other concealable, man-portable weaponry to groups in the US?

      Because that’s realistically what it would take. The US and NATO countries started helping Ukraine it its fight by sending in these types of man-portable weapons, drones, etc. They’re they type of thing that’s small enough to be snuck over a border in large numbers. And they’re the types of weaponry that could actually allow militia groups in the US, armed with civilian weaponry, to plausibly resist the military in any real capacity. Of course, the only source for this type of weaponry is other nation states.

      Realistically, any rebellion would need extensive foreign support. Just like every other rebellion/insurrection that’s happened over the last century or more.

      So, I ask again, how many letters, emails, and phone calls have you made to your leaders, encouraging them to send military grade weaponry to US resistance groups?

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        2016:

        ‘Mind your own business, it’s our right not to vote’

        2025:

        ‘If you want us to fix our shit send us MANPADS’

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    I never thought I’d be on the side opposing the US in WWIII, but hey ho, here we go.

    (And this might even mean I’m on the side opposite my own government depending on how things progress here in the meantime.)

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      I don’t quite understand how there are people that ever thought the U.S. was good. How could anyone look at their zealotous imperial superiority masturbation and not just be struck with revulsion is beyond me. It’s like the west collectively drank their kool aid and is only now slowly, and tentatively starting to wake up to how fucking insane that country is.

      I’m 100% certain that they could invade and occupy Greenland and the rest of Europe would still be like “yeah but like… they’re the good guys?”

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        Interestingly the US is the least kool aid drinking of Western nations when it comes to managing ‘great power’ realpolitik. Its unabashedly imperialistic with carefully constructed domestic propaganda. It effectively convinces its subjects of its (false) moral legitimacy, generally speaking.

        Europe is the most kool aid drunk at the moment. Stagnation, impending demographic collapse and vastly overestimating their standing on the global stage. Trumps crass handling of relations with Europe has been a wake up call there to say the least. Alexander Stubb’s (president of Finland) speech at the G20 was hopefully heard by and reflected on by EU leaders. Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US, mainly though complacency.

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          Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US

          Yeah, during WW2, that’s not news to anybody

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        It was mostly other imperialist countries and their vassal states, why wouldn’t they accept another of their own?

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            Nationalism then. People love to feel important or like they’re part of something, even if they put no actual effort towards that end. Just identify with the place you happened to be born and convince yourself its victories are your own.

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        Don’t have another choice, with our european army against the biggest army in the world from our own ally… Smh

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          An EU embargo of the US (including banning “services” like tech) would likely crash the US economy (probably the EU economy too). I think the EU will just allow the US to do whatever it wants though, with the wealthy just bribing all the important politicians and ramping up propaganda to promote far-right ideology.

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            So we don’t have a choice, to protect our economy we have to allow the usa to do what they want, right? I suspect far right ideology might even win as well… seeing at how popular they are becoming and all the propaganda from all sides fr

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      Also an attack against a NATO founding member, by another NATO founding member, making it the most confusing triggering of article 5 requiring the US to come to the aid of Denmark against itself.

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        I hope the good states ally with NATO to take down Florida, and allow Canada to give Trump’s Ballsroom the British treatment: Gone up in smoke and flame.

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        Fuck it then, full send it. Life sucks for me so I’ll happily go die in a snow pit defending a fellow EU country.

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        This threat alone is enough to show how much of a laughable alliance NATO is. America’s veto power already showed the security theater for what it is, but this is the final coup de grâce to the image of NATO being anything more than America’s lapdog.

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        Why do liberals continue to assert American fascists acting on behalf of international finance and the O&G industry are always and forever a cat’s paw for the Evil Foreigners?

        Is it really that hard to believe American plutocrats might be the primary beneficiary of an American campaign to expand America’s territory?

        “We do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense,” Trump told The Atlantic in an interview published Jan. 4, describing the island as reportedly “surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships.”

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          That’s not what was implied in the comment your replaying to, they just stated it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy and benefit from. Not that he or any other state or non state actor are pulling the strings.

          And they are correct, strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US annexing part of a member nation, not to mention the collapse of NATO.

          And I’m not defending anyone here, American and its rich rulers are pieces of shit, Putin and the Russian oligarchs are pieces of shit, and even though they aren’t doing anything wrong in this instance the leaders/authorities of every major player in geopolitics are also in fact pieces of shit.

          Edit: and before you start, politically I’m best described as an anarchist in the fashion of David Graeber so not a liberal by a long sight

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            it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy

            Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?

            strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US

            The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.

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              lol done here you’re not worth any more effort, with you being daft as a brush and all that.

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              Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?

              In theory, he might not like a heavy foreign naval presence, but Greenland is already NATO aligned. So he’d be trading a NATO aligned region for a US-only region in exchange for a fractured NATO. Sounds like a decent trade. Also keep in mind practically speaking they are probably equally unlikely to actually boost military presence much, and if they really wanted just that, NATO would probably mostly let them do it if USA paid for it, without USA having to take it.

              The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.

              This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring. A USA versus European NATO scenario would be his dream scenario. See “Foundations of Geopolitics”, where it’s mostly about getting Russia’s opponents to fracture and ruin alliances:

              Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

              This is also the book that makes annexation of Ukraine the top priority, that it must be secured before the broader Russian agenda can be executed. It also says they need to make the UK isolated from the broader EU. They know that above all else alliances must be broken for them to stand a chance to seize power.

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                This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring.

                A lot of the Trump plan for Greenland’s annexation revolves around love-bombing the existing inhabitants and effectively buying the island out. Incidentally, not unlike the Chinese plan for Taiwan or the original Russian plan for Crimea. This follows domestic efforts on the island for full independence that Danish intelligence believes has been exacerbated by American media and intelligence interference.

                Obviously, ended up backfiring. But you don’t need a NATO invasion so much as a Color Revolution, which Americans have (historically) been pretty good at setting up.

                However you slice it, Russia doesn’t benefit from this in any material sense. And constantly holding the Russians up as a boogeyman when the crooks leading this scheme are squarely rooted inside the White House, not the Kremlin, is as obtuse as it is xenophobic. “Everything I don’t like is The Bad Foreigners” is the mentality that produced Trumpism to begin with. Liberals leaning into it only guarantee more Trumps into our future.

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        Like some Establishment Democrats are secretly bootlicking Trump, and plus he claimed to have made antifascism a “crime” which violates the First Amendment (which allows for the freedoms of speech, of the press, of religion, of expression, to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances to the government and such). Seriously!

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      Its risky, but …OK. I’ll tell Schumer to release the next memo. VERY strong language in this one. There will also be a walk out and a minute of silence, in both the Senate and the House (probably).

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      Many of us have been trying to get people to organize online to do that in real time communities on say Matrix and Stoat to inform, collaborate, strengthen each other, etc but people need to stop scrolling, and do.

      The whole country as a matter of fact.

      How do we get through to people who want to be entertained?

      Plenty of us already are doing but we need way more

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    Can you imagine how much more useful to readers this publication could be if they wrote plainly true headlines instead of couching what happened behind click-bait bullshit?

    “Stephen Miller’s Wife Threatens Greenland with a Meme on Social Media”

    Look, now a reader would know what actually happened.

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    The US already has access to Greenland’s minerals. Greenland is in NATO. The fat, orange murderer/felon/rapist is greedy beyond measure.

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        according to some danish journalists the idea was started by Ronald Lauder, some US billionaire. (he has some companies that use water from greenland or some shit)

        It’s even on his Wikipage…

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    Can we move forward to a post-apocalyptic world already? I really like the foreplay, but I’ve been ready for years.

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      We need GTA VI first at least with a few months of playtime. Then WWIII has it’s window.

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        Rockstar single-handedly delaying WW3 for as long as they can

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          Can we still hope that Bethesda will turn out something half-decent? Having experienced the decline since III, I’m not too sure.

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            Elder Scrolls is gonna be mid but the next Fallout will be the most immersive ARG ever.

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              The nukes start flying at 12:00

              Todd Howard at 12:01 “Hey guys, I’m excited to announce the launch of Fallout 5, our largest map in any Bethesda game, it’s literally the entire planet! Graphics will have 16 times the detail, unless you need glasses, and your carry capacity will be based on your very own actual strength. Weapon variety will greatly depend on which country or state you live in. We’ll be releasing this new augmented reality experience starting right after the first bomb drops. Oh and one more thing, we did run out of time on development, so we don’t have a Pip-Boy for you and there are no Vaults. Good luck!”

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      In trumps head: In trumps world: America is for the Americans, Europe is for Russia, and Asia is for Indians and Chinese to figure out on their own.
      and america not part of ICC they just do what they feel like

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      Because there are systems in place which enable sociopaths and psychopaths to become the richest and most powerful people in the world and the world is never enough for them.

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      Didn’t you read their new national security strategy? They will use force and power to enforce peace (together with blackmail from their billionaire tech companies, if you investigate hate speech, desinformation or criticize them) instead of diplomacy. They never been part of the International Criminal Court anyway, from 1998, so they can do as they wish cause their army is insane smh this is all part of the plan, and continueing trumps work from his first term, america is for the americans, europe for ruzzia, and asia for china and india to figure out basically lol and they can use any dictatorian authorian power they like