• abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
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    No, its a generic instance withno particular political direction. I’d say it’s left leaning, but that is the general direction on Lemmy.

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    IDK what “modern leftist” is supposed to be, but lemmy.world is not what I’d describe as “leftist”, especially not relative to other Lemmy instances. It’s certainly left of fascism and Reddit, but y’know, low bar to clear.

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    It’s news to me that we are supposed to select a server based on politics. join-lemmy.org gives suggestions based on any number of topics. For instance, technology and gaming.

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      You probably don’t want to be on a far left server like lemmy.ml if those aren’t your politics. If only for the risk of getting defederated, but it’s also a quick way to get banned by your own instance if you do participate in political threads.

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        Even if you do fall under “far left politics”, you’ll still be shit on for being the wrong kind of leftist.

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        I wouldn’t exactly call lemmy.ml a far left server. They’re more tankies, which is more defined by the philosophy of “America Bad, so their rivals must be Good”.

        As a US citizen, the country has a lot of problems (especially with the current administration) but Putin and Jinping are still authoritarian despots.

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          If marxism-leninism or maoism aren’t far left, what IS? The word “tankie” references the violent and imperialist oppression of opposition by communist countries like the USSR and PRC, and I don’t get the impression that lemmy.ml users don’t consider themselves this flavor of leftist. Or is this just a “no true scotsman” discussion?

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            What you’re missing is that the tankies on .ml are just taking the name of marxism-leninism. The philosophy is diametrically opposed to the modern CCP (which is now Capitalist) and Putin’s Russia (which is Fascist). And note that I pointed out that tankies support modern China and Russia.

            This is similar to how Stalin’s Soviet Union held very few similarities to what Karl Marx described despite referring to utself as Communist

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              Tankies don’t only support modern fascist Russia, they also support Stalin and Mao. In fact, pick a brutal dictator, and they likely have full support. Pick any American sin (and there are many) that they decry and you’ll find them cheering and supporting and rationalizing a non-American committing that sin but worse.

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      Why the hell would you expect something designed to function almost identically to be radically different?

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        Liberal never meant leftist, as a simple fact liberalism refers to the center right ideology that asposes capitalist “democracy”. Furthermore liberals will occasionally pretend to be progressive on social issues but without economic liberation social liberation is fundementally not possible.

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        Just because yanks don’t know anything left of their centre-right democratic party doesn’t mean that liberalism is suddenly leftist…

        Edit: sorry, should have read closer. You aren’t american but are accusing Americans of changing the meaning, whilst spouting the american usage of the word? It doesn’t make sense. Why accuse Americans of changing the meaning of the word liberal when you are clearly using the american meaning in the previous sentence?

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        The fuck are you on about? On the traditional left-right axis liberals are placed in the center, though that is a simplification. The ideals align with plenty of leftists but the economy is waaay right.

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        Not in my country, liberals are either centre or right over here. Socialists tend to be the left.

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    Can you clarify what you mean by ‘authentically “modern leftist”’? There are a lot of people on this platform who identify as leftists, but I have no idea what you mean by 'authentically “modern leftist” here. I can’t answer your question because I’m not even sure what you’re really asking.

    Posting such a vaguely defined question from a brand new account with no post history feels rather trollish.

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    Of course not. Anything online and open to participation by all people with internet access is fully engaged in the worldwide information war (WIW).

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    Lemmy.World is a liberal outcropping in an otherwise leftist community. It is probably the last instance I would label as “authentically leftist”.

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      It might be left by American standards where you are a leftist for supporting a center-right party like the American Democrats

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    If “right” means amorally selfish, anything goes, war and plunder, etc etc and “left” is anything that goes in the opposite direction, then kinda? The propaganda still confuses but their hearts are kinda sorta in the right place mostly.