• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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    The NRA is frantically running the numbers to see what will increase public fear, and thus sales figures for the gun companies, the most.

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      You’re going to see a timid pushback against the administration right now.

      Why are they doing this? Are they finally standing up with consistent values on at least this one idea? Are they making a firm stand that the constitution is beyond partisan politics? I don’t know… it may be something else.

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        If they didn’t make a stand when he said “take the gun first, due process second” in his first administration, why would they do it now?

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          That’s why I said anything we hear from them is going to be really weak. Just mumbling efforts to pay lip service to people considering buying guns right now. They don’t care about firearms or the 2nd amendment or human life any more than the president himself, it’s JUST a corporate marketing agency.

          (A marketing agency that is rapidly falling off a cliff, they have been liquidating their own stocks, they even sued one of their own subsidiaries, they are under investigation and have lost a million members, they even got rejected filing for bankruptcy. Real shame. Moment of silence. Okay moment is over, what’s for lunch?)

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      Ironically, thanks to the 2A loonies we don’t really need them anymore. Can even rifle a barrel liner using a car battery and a bucket of salt water at this point.

      Print, [redacted], repeat

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          What they are referring to is electrolytic etching (et al). Yes, you can get something approximating what is essentially tapping a thread, but I can pretty much guarantee you that anyone doing this in a shed isn’t getting that level of precision and is, arguably, doing a worse job than not rifling at all. The folk who DO know how to do this have access to machine shops… and the tools to do it correctly.

          Regardless, the real problem is making the barrel in the first place. Anyone who bought a mini lathe or got a drill press on facebook marketplace thinks they can do this. They chew threw mild steel like butter! And… there are a LOT of recovered guns from The Troubles in Ireland that fractured or literally exploded after even moderate use. Because you need proper alloys to handle the pressures of repeated explosions AND need to machine it in a way that is less likely to fracture/chip the parts containing that pressure. And drilling through THAT takes much better gear and skills that go beyond “Only an idiot wears gloves”

          Also… it is irrelevant to the topic of Ghost Guns. Because, in almost all cases, barrels (and springs and levers) are not controlled items. So you print what is controlled and buy a parts kit for the rest.

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          I’m pretty sure you can find videos on it on YouTube, but it essentially boils down to creating an array of copper wire in the shape of the rifling, inserting that into the barrel liner, then putting the whole thing into the bucket and hooking the wire up to electricity. This then slowly etches the rifling into the liner through electrolysis.

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    In a twisted way, Trump is inadvertently trying hard to prove that more guns in the hands of untrained people with no background checks are a bad idea, something NRA was hoping to keep down. The cat is out of the bag now.

    Anyway, fight girls.

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      I get the irony but if he managed to actually enact some form of gun control in this country it would be the hardest pill in the world for people like us to swallow who just can’t stand that fucking idiot.

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        insert “Broken clocks” idiom

        He’d be doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons and in this case, for more authoritarian control

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        As much as it has zero chance of ever happening, he pushed for a max 10% on credit card debt. It’d all but destroy some banks, and people that dont have excellent credit would largely have zero credit availability, but I think it’s a good idea.

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          Credit cards is a money trickling up system. Banks charge the sellers and give a rebate to their customers. Sellers increase their price to compensate for the credit card fees.
          And then the poor are denied credit cards and pay the marked-up price on everything, or are given credit cards knowing they will fail to pay back on time at some point and then pay huge interests.
          It would be better for most if that system disappeared or was at least severely trimmed down!

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          Agreed. Short term pain for long term gain is something we desperately need to change but today’s culture is too lost in the system to ever deal with it.

          If it meant a better life for my daughter when she grows up I’d do what I had to. I’m doing what I can but it isn’t much.

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      They will whinge about this for a few days before he finds some shiny thing to distract them with.

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      in the hands of untrained people with no background checks

      In the context and language of the time, “well regulated” essentially meant “properly trained in their use” so there’s a constitutional argument to be made for mandatory firearms training as a prerequisite gun ownership. That’s…not going to reduce shootings in the ways you might expect, since a large portion of shootings are not done with legally owned guns to begin with, and there’s no good reason organized crime (think gang and/or narcotics related, connected is why a few dozen counties account for something like 4 in 10 homicides) would use guns legally registered to themselves.

      Would probably reduce the suicide rate though - anything that breaks the immediacy between wanting to do it and trying to do it tends to.

      An important step up on the whole issue would be making gun owners legally liable for any crimes committed with a firearm they own, even if it’s stolen unless the theft was reported beforehand and there is clear evidence that it was properly secured at the time of theft. You steal your father’s rifle and go shoot up your school and he’s on the hook for the murders too. Would make a bunch of folks much more concerned about properly securing their arms, which would further reduce the suicide rate if nothing else and put a dent in the “lone nutter shoots up their school” types as well.

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    Let me translate this:

    You (the Outgroup, meaning leftists) can’t have guns. If You (the Outgroup) does this, We (the ingroup, the right) will kill you. You have no rights, We have no restrictions.

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      it looks like the start of a civil war. i hope it doesn’t come to that, but it really looks like that’s where it’s headed.

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        If only we were so lucky. Americans aren’t going to stop this themselves, the rest of us need to arm ourselves and prepare to defend each other

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        If we keep society together and martial law isn’t declared before midterms then we might be good. We might go to sweep them without a civil war. But should martial law be declared or we don’t get the midterms for whatever reason…

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          Then it’ll fracture along state lines, ie states that have the wherewithal to stand up against the feds. Which if they don’t organize among themselves will be … California. Maybe New York. And the little ones will be steamrolled. Although I’d guess the purple states that insist on more autonomy and are more difficult to police (AZ, Colorado, Montana, Utah) will just sort of fly under the radar.

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            I think states will still band together a bit. New england would probably stick together. California, Oregon, and Washington. All of the south, including Florida now, would stick together too.

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    They want to deny you even the chance to die on your feet. How’s all that owning the libs feel now, huh conservatives? You love it when your daddy treads on you to tread on the people you don’t like. Every Republican voter is a traitor.

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    I really think you all aren’t properly focusing on the word “you” here. By “you” he means “not them”… So he essentially is saying “You libtards can’t have guns, because us Maga-idiots will shoot you if you do”.

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      One of the main purposes (arguably the primary purpose?) of the “well regulated militia” was to ensure that settlers could attack and exterminate American Indian tribes during westward expansion.

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    And you’re still saying you don’t have a king ruling over you , America?

    He really shit all over your second amendment rights there. Wiped his royal butt with it.