It’s so incorrect I don’t even know where to start. We (trans women) don’t make a ton of money, we’re in fact the worst paid gender history category for equivalent work. Also estrogen is like $30 a month, without insurance. Plenty of people are attracted to trans men, and I’ve known many a trans guy who was quite happy. And yeah, your sex worker is acting happy for money, whether or not she is happy.
Also you know, I’m not a fucking sex object, I’m a fellow human being. And I’m not a sex worker, I’m an educated professional in the same career as my whole fucking family. The attempts to force my people into that line of work has broken so many of my foremothers. I’ll sell my body if I must, but I will curse any society that forces me into that with every breath I have.
Oh and, what the actual fuck trying to combine transmisogyny and child molestation is a baffling caricature of evil. What next? Tying doctors without borders to train tracks‽
As a trans person… holy fuck, what the fuck, oh my god, this goes beyond porn category jokes, I think I’m gonna puke.
This is the kind of drunken bro science that you might overhear at the bar. These people put it in an email. If his job was to collect kompromat, they sure made it easy.
Some how he made people feel safe about sharing their darkest fantasies and innermost perverted thoughts. There is an art to getting people to open up like that. I bet he was a good listener and at least part psychiatrist (feeding the perversion rather than “curing” them)
Absolutely. I’ve been sort of thinking about how many people he had communications with and how many of them trusted him but that seems to have been his job.
He had tons of people who considered him an entirely trustworthy friend, allowing photos to be taken in highly compromising environments.
Yeah it’s definitely a skill. But at the same time, I suspect it’s easy to get people to open up about their desires when you’re their friend/pimp/drug dealer/connections guy. Everyone probably thought they had bigger dirt on him than vice versa and he had dirt on everyone. Like, if you think the elites are specially qualified, it’s probably easy to think that there’s none of the risk of someone talking since everyone is a victim with no sway or implicated.
Holy fuck, this is insane.
Maybe trans men don’t give a fuck about what cis people want or find sexually attractive. Cis people aren’t the center of the universe and every year they get more and more unappealing inventing new ways to be insecure then complaining about it
Definitely not a representative sample, but every trans man I have met does not care about what you or anyone else thinks about them. Except for their chosen few, kind of like a cat.
Jfc. What a disgusting person he was. Like people aren’t…. People to him. So gross.
The email’s from Robert Trivers, who is still alive 🙃 which is extremely unfortunate except for the fact that he could still face consequences.
This is an inaccurate title. Epstein and his buddies aren’t “the right,” they’re the Elite. They exist beyond or seperate of Left and Right. They are instead the ones playing us, the left and the right, against each other. No time to throw around stupid insults like ‘your side won’t leave the kids alone!’ Until we completely and ruthlessly get to the bottom of the Epstein files. Nothing else matters right now
I disagree, the elite are right wing. They believe that there should be an in-group, the ultra-wealthy, that society supports but does not restrict. They are capitalists, both in the ideological sense and in the sense that they own capital. The most moderate or them are conservatives who see that they have benefited from the status quo and seek to preserve it. The radicals are fascists, neo-monarchists, theocrats and the like who seek a world order that is even less equal and less fair for the common person than the pseudo-democracy that we have now.
The right more broadly are the many millions of rubes that have bought into the propaganda created by and for these elites. They are those who are primed to believe their lies, because they have fear and anger that overwhelms their critical thinking, limited access to education, culturally embedded and reinforced bigotry, and privileges that they are told depend on the status quo.
If you go back to the original meaning of Left and Right in a political discussion, Epstein and his friends are 100% right-wing.
The origins of the terms come from the French Revolution. Before the Reign of Terror kicked off, there was an interim government that was writing a new constitution. France could have become a constitutional monarchy from it.
Anyway, during the process, there were a number of votes held. Those who were in favor of the status quo, i.e. an unchecked monarchy and unaccountable nobility, sat on the right of the Speaker’s podium. Those who wanted democracy and accountability for the crimes of the nobility sat on the left.
The reason why Left and Right were applied to economic matters is simple. Marx wrote about an economic system of equality and accountability. On the other side, the Father of Conservatism, Edmund Burke, wrote about using the power of money to escape accountability and to suppress democracy.
So anyone who considers themselves “elite” because of merely having money, is by definition a right-wing asshole. But also, the vast majority of Epstien’s “friends” are openly right wing, because they’re mostly the rich and powerful.
Wut? The man was literally a stock broker who constantly criticized socialism and communism. He’s obviously a fan of capitalism and all it entails. You know what you don’t get with communism… Elite billionaires who invite other elite billionaires to have sex with children on a privately owned island.
I don’t really understand this text or rather the commentary about it - where exactly is the accusation/confession here? Might be because English is my 2nd language.
To me it just seems like some stupid rant about MtF being attractive and FtM being disgusting, so, like an expression of their opinion, not an admission of doing things or anything.
It’s the last sentence, where they’re implying giving a three year old something.
I see. But isn’t it like a “we” in the sense of “we as a society”? The “I would be frightened to do that” makes it sound like that and the whole sentence sounds like the standard trans shit conservatives have been saying.
The things is, epstein wasn’t right or left. He played both sides as long as it served him.
It also makes complete sense for people like that to not give a fuck about political ideologies, because politics barely affect them. Laws or policy just get ignored, its just something to keep the masses distracted with.
Trump would actually be the same if it wasn’t for being addicted to the populism that comforts his ego. Still be a racist and fascist in nature of course, but not actually caring about political power as long as they can do whatever.
epstein wasn’t right or left. He played both sides as long as it served him.
I can guarantee he wasn’t preaching about leftist ideals such as workers rights and billionaire taxation.
Yes he wasn’t left, like i said.
I was trying to say that being left or right is about the ideals and not the politcal figure he chooses to support or interact.
In my experience, I’ve never met anyone that doesn’t lean to the left or the right.
In my experience, I’ve never met anyone that doesn’t lean to the left or the right.
That would mean you quiz everyone you meet on political issues, or you make some bold assumptions about their beliefs. People can surprise you, sometimes they consider themselves one wing but are actually the other.
But he was though. He did have an ideology. That ideology was everything in service of himself and other elites/billionaires in society. And what it means to be rich/powerful is a part of that ideology in the first place. Everyone has an ideology, whether they realize it or not
This is what you expect to see in a world with hierarchies and where the rich and powerful are entrenched. Nothing here is unexpected or otherwise incompatible with leftist analysis
In what world could you say that Epstein gave circumstantial support to the left? At what point did he ever support lessening the amount of power the powerful have? Left vs right is far more than just social issues, it’s the whole package
Ideology yes, but not fitting on the traditional left/right spectrum.
There are more than 2 ideologies, the left/right divide is only a grouped polarisation of policies. And a useful one to billionaires.
If policies don’t affect you, you don’t need to care about either. You can be gay and own guns. You can be anti immigration but pro abortion.
Now what is true that the right is a much more practical tool for billionaires to maintain the status quo. But its not like they actually care or agree with what voters think. Like people who own a private island give a fuck about building a wall between US/Mexico. It’s all just part of a game to them. And Epsteins job was to maintain a level of friendly neutrality to influence both sides of it.
fitting on the traditional left/right spectrum.
Maybe if you are using the American definition of left and right… The traditional geopolitical definition of left and right has to do with economics not how woke you are.
By the traditional definition of left and right he is definitively right winged.
I can’t verify this for all of the non US west but i was under the impression that far right party in Germany was running on an anti-immigrant rhetoric and that plenty of smaller populist parties are mimicking maga.
Yes, most far right parties are very nationalistic and based in populism. They typically are also very pro capitalism while being very anti socialism.
A parties view on cultural progressiveness isn’t the main determining factor wether or not they are far left or far right.
And as I mentioned, it’s more than just social issues. I say this as a minority of multiple kinds… and also as someone who isn’t American
Your image is literally a leftist position. The concept of class warfare is firmly established in leftist thought. It often does end up associating with the social issues you have in mind, because it’s all supported upon the same foundation of, well, creating a society for all, and not for the select few
And as I mentioned, it’s more than just social issues. I say this as a minority of multiple kinds… and also aa someone who isn’t American
Your imagine is literally a leftist position. The concept of class warfare is firmly established in leftist thought. It often does end up associating with the social issues you have in mind, because it’s all supported upon the same foundation of, well, creating a society for all, and not for the select few
I agree that this is a left wing position, i do consider myself far left also.
What i don’t agree with is that not being left wing or even directly in opposition to it automatically makes you right wing. The binary spectrum is part of how they maintain power, once you look past politics ideology becomes much more dynamic and nuanced.
As an example i have known people who did not identify with any politics, refuse to vote, are against the super rich, support lgbt and abortion but are super racist to non natives and are scared of the word socialism. Those were commoners but i am sure the elites can be like this also.
Cannot forget that the lifestyle of the elites does mimic a level of insider socialism.
As i have mentioned the right is very useful to billionaires but i don’t for a second believe the billionaires really care about any of the things right wing voters do.
They are their own group of neo aristocracy.
I disagree, the elite are right wing. They believe that there should be an in-group, the ultra-wealthy, that society supports but does not restrict. They are capitalists, both in the ideological sense and in the sense that they own capital. The most moderate or them are conservatives who see that they have benefited from the status quo and seek to preserve it. The radicals are fascists, neo-monarchists, theocrats and the like who seek a world order that is even less equal and less fair for the common person than the pseudo-democracy that we have now.
The right more broadly are the many millions of rubes that have bought into the propaganda created by and for these elites. They are those who are primed to believe their lies, because they have fear and anger that overwhelms their critical thinking, limited access to education, culturally embedded and reinforced bigotry, and privileges that they are told depend on the status quo.
Whats pum-pum?
Vulva/vagina
Why they use a childish term for it is beyond me
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