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    Huh, apparently peacocks are endangered. So probably that’s why?

    I honestly thought they were quite common as livestock but I guess I was wrong.

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        If the animal is endangered you still get dinged even of they are you pets. The laws are written as such to prevent this and things like getting an endangered or threatened species as a “pet” and then killing them to taxidermy.

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        No. It doesn’t really matter if the animals are wild or in captivity.

        Under the ESA, it is unlawful to “take” any endangered or threatened animal species, which is broadly defined to include harassing, harming, pursuing, hunting, shooting, wounding, or killing.

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        Its to discourage people from capturing wild endangered species and raising them as pets. Making something a pet is as good as killing it in the wild.

        However, I don’t think they’re native to florida so I’m not sure it matters.

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      They are quite common livestock all over the world.

      And exotic to Florida, so calling them “endangered” is completely meaningless.

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      They are common livestock. People let them roam freely, and they’re dumb as rocks, so they’re always standing in the road.

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      probably that’s why?

      Nope!

      He was charged with animal cruelty, probably because of the wacky letter he sent to his neighbor, and that he did it “out of spite.”

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        animal cruelty laws are a good thing, but this is bullshit, why are some animals allowed to have rights, while others allowed to be butchered and eaten?

        I’m not vegan, but there should be a consistent framework.

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          why are some animals allowed to have rights, while others allowed to be butchered and eaten?

          The line is generally a combination of social, practical, and culinary. That is, if it’s not a companion animal, it’s not endangered, it is customarily raised as livestock and it is tasty those are all evidence it probably goes in the latter category. So chicken = food, whooping crane = not food because endangered, german shepherd = not food because companion, blue ringed octopus = not food because taste bad.

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          Yes the charges are related to the way he slaughter the animals. Because the neighbors were taking photos of the beautiful peacocks this guy decided to brutally kill the peacocks and eat them to spite the neighbor.

          Well that is what I read in a comment somewhere.

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          Dude our whole country is governed based on the feelings of right-wing men.

          Every issue, every unsolvable problem, every “why the fuck do we do THAT?!” exists because right-wing men have huge feelings about things and the only cards they can play are either “violence” or “control” (which are usually the same thing.)

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        To be fair, from what I’ve seen if peacock behaviors, they’re dicks.

        Animals being dicks is not a good enough reason to kill and eat them. They should also be tasty.

        Is peacock tasty? I’ve never had any. Can we ask the guy in the news story?

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      I grew up in an Italian community where peacocks and peahens were commonly raised for food - exactly like chickens are now raised by hipsters.

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    Here’s the news story about it: https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/pascocounty/man-kills-eats-pet-peacock-pasco-county/67-d216ccbf-d32a-462c-be3d-65c41907095e

    1. There’s nothing wrong with eating peafowl. People have been eating them for centuries and still do.

    2. While some species of peafowl are endangered, the species that people keep as pets are not.

    3. This guy was reportedly arrested for his slaughtering methods. I’m no butcher, but I believe the commonly accepted method of slaughter is to swiftly break the bird’s neck to ensure the death is quick. According to the news article, he cut the bird’s necks and let them bleed out which counts as animal cruelty. A person would theoretically get arrested for doing this to their pet/feeder chickens as well.

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      thats crazy, i had no idea that would be considered animal cruelty. i grew up on a farm and have only ever seen the head chopped off but out of curioity, how is severing the spinal cord with an axe more inhumane than twisting the neck? logically speaking, the blood draining out has  no effect on cognition, and what if theneck doesnt snap the first time?

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        Honestly decapitation is more humane than a broken neck. The drop in BP is enough to cause immediate lights out, where as someone with a broken neck could very well have to suffocate to death inside their own bodies.

        The blood pressure drop has a huge effect on cognition.

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        I think they mean the guy slit the birds neck, severing the arteries but not the spinal cord, and then let it drain, instead of fully beheading it.

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        Yeah, I think decapitation is fine. I think this guy just cut their carotid, and hung them up to die.

        Not a great way to go, honestly.

        I’m familiar with some butchering methods, but I’m no butcher. I think that the most common practices in large butcher shops involve either decapitation, or a way of instantly killing the animal. Pretty sure they use a type of bolt “gun” for bovines that basically crushes their skull.

        It seems like it is brutal, but their death is so instant, it is considered to be humane.

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          Chickens are often slaughtered by cutting their necks in a same way but using a machine. They go through an electric shock bath right before cutting their necks. Some chickens survive the shock and flail, getting their necks half-cut by the machine before entering a hot bath.

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            I certainly didn’t mean to imply any methods are perfect or without the opportunity to go wrong.

            Hopefully nobody got that idea from what I said.

            I’ll reiterate: I’m not a butcher, so my knowledge is limited. I do, however, still eat meat despite all that I know about it.

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      Hanging the bird upside down, cutting its neck (specifically, the arteries that are in the neck) and letting it bleed out is standard practice. The blood drains quickly and they die within a few seconds. It sounds horrible if you haven’t seen it done but this is how many (most?) farmers do it.

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        I’ve seen aunties grab a chicken by the neck and just spin it around till the head comes off.

        It sounds to me like the guy told the neighbor “stop feeding my birds, I’m going to slaughter them soon”, and the neighbors who had been feeding the birds without permission reported them?

        Anyways. Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.

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          Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.

          One of my neighbors have Peacocks. The rest have dogs. I’ll take Peacocks any day!

          It’s kind of adorable hearing them yell at cars driving by too fast/loud.

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            The peacocks I’ve seen are so loud they can be heard at the top of a 25 story condo. I’ve literally seen people sell their condos because of the damn peacocks. Maybe they only have peahens?

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              Maybe they only have peahens?

              That may be. I can’t actually see them because of a big privacy fence. But I definitely recognize the sound, my grandparents raised them.

              I’ve literally seen people sell their condos because of the damn peacocks.

              If it was economically feasible, I’d sell my house because of the dogs :/

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      Ah, so standard Halal practice, which is savage animal cruelty with a devoted PR department.

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        Yeah, I have seen the animal bleed out once, and it is hard to watch.

        A small and young lamb is all tied up laying on the ground with the carotid severed. It is clearly in fear and tries very hard to get away. That struggle lasted for a long time until it eventually is exhausted and died.

        I am not sure if this is how halal and kosher meat are produced though.

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      I think of the method this guy used as “The Sarah Palin method” because she once did a news interview while people were killing turkeys in the background that way.

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      This guy was reportedly arrested for his slaughtering methods. I’m no butcher, but I believe the commonly accepted method of slaughter is to swiftly break the bird’s neck to ensure the death is quick. According to the news article, he cut the bird’s necks and let them bleed out which counts as animal cruelty. A person would theoretically get arrested for doing this to their pet/feeder chickens as well.

      That’s how everyone kills chickens around here, you even have like a metal cone to keep them steady while you do it, I never had the heart to kill any animals but I’ve seen a lot of it.