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    Well, I would not be so hasty. The current government is working with the far right, which has heavily critiqued this ad campaign. They have representatives calling flying the pride flag a sign of celebrating pedofiles, and have banned the flag on municipal properies. If their coallition wins this election, the far right will be running this country.

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      If their coallition wins this election, the far right will be running this country.

      Yes, that is typically how democracy works. The ones that win get to rule until the next election.

      And just to mention, the right leaning coalition is already running the country. And have been doing so for the past ~4 years.

      But yes, Björn Söder (which is the guy being loud about it) is a disgusting human being. And how a party can make the decision to keep such a person is dissapointing and appaling. No disagreement there.

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      Hardly imperialistic. Sweden’s stance toward Finland and Norway has always been union rather than protectorate. Sweden did hurt its native population in the North and is still not doing a great job on that front, but imperialism is not the word you’re looking for here.

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          Yes indeed, they’re part of NATO now, thanks for highlighting that positive development. Any step that can be taken against the russian dictatorship is a good one.

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                How dare NATO countries not allow to be invaded?! Don’t they know might is right?

                Wait…

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                NATO is “defensive” like the IDF is. It’s defensive of imperialist countries that export capital to super-exploit the global south, preventing any backlash from reaching the imperial core. The difference between NATO and the Alliance of Sahel States, for example, is that the countries banding together in NATO all benefit from imperialism, while the Sahel States are banding together to kick out imperialists. Both are millitary alliances, but one is highly reactionary while the other is progressive.

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                  Sure, I guess if you want an invasion of the West to work it’s a bad thing.

                  The IDF isn’t a fair comparison. They do a whole lot of stuff, unlike NATO which mainly prepares, and much of it does not meet the standard of defence to anyone’s satisfaction but Israel and maybe the US.

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        Imperialism in the modern era is the monopoly stage of capitalism. Through the domination of financial oligarchy, Europe also takes part in imperialism, exporting capital to the global south to super-exploit them for super-profits.

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    Somehow I highly doubt that denmark Sweden (as any capitalistic country) would not just throw queers under the bus with everyone else if it means securing capitalist interests (which is like the main reason for war)

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      This is a Swedish armed forces ad, what does Denmark have to do with it other than having been to war with Sweden a lot of times in the distant past?

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      A cow person disliking swedes is a meme that writes itself.

      Swede -> suede -> danish pastry better -> danish

      Can’t be added to make it :(

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      Bro wtf are you on about? Yes Sweden is capitalistic. So what. It can still hold up its values and protect Queer people.

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        Capitalism has no ethics. If it is more profitable to act like you care about queer people, it will sell itself like it does care, but it will just stop acting like it cares the minute it becomes more profitable to not care.

        I will give you an example. Just remember what pride month looked like 3-4 years ago. Fucking everything was plastered in rainbows. You could not escape it. Now compare this to what pride moth last year looked like.

        I would say, that this gigantic difference in how companys sell themselves is a prime example of my point. Once shit starts to hit the fan and support is needed more than ever capitalism usually just tucks away, because it always follows the path if the least resistance.

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            Theres no difference. The state, which job it is to secure capitalist interests, will follow the same path, which means exerting oppression to divide the proletariat to secure capitalist interest.

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              Maybe there’s no difference in the US. Luckily, we don’t live there. We have so many laws regarding employment and consumer rights. Both of which would be in direct conflict with only securing capital interests.

              For example. Parents are entitled to pretty much a year of maternity and paternity leave. It would be illegal to fire them because of it.

              Full time employees are entitled to 4 weeks of consecutive vacation.

              If you purchase produce and find it’s rotten when you get home, not only do you have the right to return it, the store have to compensate you on top of it.

              Please tell me how that is oppression to secure capital interest.

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                We can see this live happening in Germany. Since last year the pressure the government is exerting onto poor people has increased rapidly. There are constant attacks to weaken the rights employees. Theres literally no reason to do what our current government is doing except to weaken the position of people applying to jobs, because they knew that the state will fuck them in the ass (without consent and without lube) if they dont have a job. This forces people into working conditions they would not accept otherwise.

                Its always the same. If capitalism demands to demolish workers rights the state will usually not hesitate to do exactly this.

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                  Okay. So what does Germany have to do with Sweden?

                  In the last 50 years. Workers rights in Sweden have increased. Not decreased.

                  You say capitalism is always the same, yet you don’t know the first thing about our culture, values, policies or laws.

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          Capitalism has ethics. Even if the profit motive were supreme, that would be an ethic. Choosing to be evil is an ethical stance.

          But in practice capitalists are always ready to sacrifice their profits and prosperity to maintain hierarchies, and more specifically white supremacy. Capitalists will pay billions to bail out banks so that the banks maintain their hierarchy over the capital of the petit bourgeoisie.

          Capitalists will pay trillions to fight wars to destroy a nation’s production capacity to prevent them from becoming socialist egalitarian, or to secure control of oil deposits that will produce mere billions in profits to shore up their dominance over the market.

          Capitalists will burn down a low-status corporate department and spend millions on temporary replacements rather than admit their work is necessary. They will work employees to the bone rather than profit off their relaxed creativity.

          Capitalist insurance companies will rather waste billions of dollars on birth complications rather than tell doctors to defer to midwives on birth positions. They will rather be in the lurch for millions of dollars of emergency healthcare for the medically bankrupt than provide preventative care.

          In capitalism, profit is an excuse for exploitation. If you intend to exploit people and you’re upper class, there are always venture capitalists willing to give your idea a try. If you intend to empower people and have scientific studies to prove it’s profitable, then sadly they just need a couple more studies believe you.

          And if you manage to crowdsource the funding to do the profitable empowering thing, inspectors and cops and vandals will come crawling out of the woodwork to tear you down. And if none of that sticks, they will create a competitor to operate at a loss to drive you out of business and restore the capitalist hierarchy.

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          But Sweden is a democratic country, with officials elected by the people. People have morals. Its not Swedens self-imposed goal to only serve profit incentives. It wishes to protect and keep its people happy and safe. Sweden is also no company

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            Democracy and capitalism are two separate things. The state under capitalism is almost always a servant of the capital, no matter what Form A state has.

            Also dont you sometimes wonder, why we aren’t fighting climate change with all power, because it will kill us if we dont? Well, there is an unholy amount of fossil fuel money to be spent to convince the masses and politicians, that it is not in their incentive to fight climate change.

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    woaw, so inclusive! now LGBTQ+ folk can also proudly die or become traumatized for the benefit of a handful of rich pedophiles! /s

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      🏳️‍⚧️: “Never thought I’d die fighting beside a Swede”

      🇸🇪: “Oh no, you misunderstand. I’m sitting back in Malmo piloting the drones.”

      🏳️‍⚧️: “Well, fuck this then, I’m leaving.”

      🇸🇪: “So you just want Trump to win?!”

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      Försvarsmakten (Swedish Armed Forces) is the umbrella the army, navy, air force, and home guard exist under.

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          Har sjömän större chans att vara bögar eller? Är jag i fel yrke, månne?

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            Forlat, jag pratar inte svenska (this the only thing I remember how to say in Swedish, which is ironic because it’s actually completely useless to use in conversation - every time I said it while I was there, people didn’t know what to say next)

            As the other poster said, it’s just a joke - there’s a stereotype about sailors finding comfort with each other while they’re stuck on a boat in the middle of nowhere.

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      The new Korea redesigned by the US? I’m not sure you’ll find what you’re looking for in the west.

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        Right? It’s crazy how people blink straight past how SK politics actually works.

        All six living South Korean ex-presidents have been convicted of crimes following their exit from office.

        Getting one guy is notable. But if you keep putting news crooks in office and letting them fuck shit up for a term or three, the “we’re the country that stopped our dictator!” line runs thin.

        How about stop electing dictators for a few years first, and then we can applaud you.