It would be even more interesting if humans were a mono-gendered (or effectively genderless…since everyone is the same) species.
Imagine coming to Lemmy and being told you picked the wrong gender distro.
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Can you please elaborate on how someone died “because of this” in the context of the rest of your message? I am genuinely curious, because 100% of stories I’ve heard of loss of life involving the concept of transgenderism has been teenagers/young adults committing suicide as a result of having their entire support system taken away overnight because they express themselves differently than their assigned gender at birth.
I would also challenge the concept of anyone “pushing” transgenderism on children, because I have seen exactly 0 evidence for this, but I also understand that “pushing” is a subjective term, not a scientific one.
I think it’s fine to look at general biological markers and categorize people for healthcare reasons. Most of the time being in the ballpark works for most people. Maybe in the future we can have some full body scan thing that picks up the optimal healthcare setup for each individual but in the meanwhile, we’ll go with what we got.
But that doesn’t have to have shit to do with their internal experience of themselves, or how the social environment should react to them. And I reiterate: “most people”. Meaning there’s going to be outliers and that’s okay, and they’ll need more individualized care. Being abnormal is normal.
This would only make sense if humans were some neutral sexless gender until they decided, which would have to be biologically enforced until the brain was sufficiently developed enough to choose.
There’s an episode of TNG where Data builds his child. He specifically says that he designed their base form to be sexless and speciesless, so that they could choose it for themselves.
If only the Trek fandom at large would acknowledge how unfathomably based that episode is. I swear there’s still a massive contingent of right wing boomers driving the narrative.
Yea that’s what I meant: If in a hypothetical alt-world, Humans were evolved so that biological sex is neutral for everyone.
But since “Gender” and “Sex” both translates to “性別” in Chinese, so when I first learned those English words, my brain kinda just mixed up both terms and encoded into my lexicon to mean the same thing.
In a lot of western early education they are used intechangably; which is where a lot of the local discourse stems from too. I think its because kids are taught that “sex” is naughty so they switch the terms for “ease” of lesson only to further confuse people. The american public school system atually does this with a lot of subjects.
That’s pretty much how it already works. It’s just that the pressure to make the “correct” choice is fucking crazy.
For some of us we didn’t know there was a choice
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For all of us we didn’t know there was a choice, we were all infants at the time the choice was made. We were still figuring out which amorphous blob gives us the milk.
This is why others decide on sex for us through observation. That much is sensible enough, infants are not great at that kind of thing. But we’re discovering more and more that this is an imperfect system and that more often than we realized the answer is not straight forward or in fact that our conclusions are sometimes incorrect even when it appears straight forward.
It’s just that the pressure to make the “correct” choice is fucking crazy.
I feel pressured to only ever present as a cisgendered heterosexual person regardless of whether that’s correct or not. The pressure is for LGBTQ+ people to simply disappear from public society. Correct has nothing to do with it.
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I think it would be more interesting if you could change at will. Wake up and pick your gender like you pick your outfit for the day.
Ranma 1/2? 😅
Can’t you? People literally do that. I truly don’t understand this game.
As long as i dont have to care and can keep focusing on myself
Do you really think people just behave in certain, sex-related ways, because they’ve been told they’re this sex or the other? That sex-related behavioural differences don’t appear naturally (and are perhaps reinforced) but are just learned? Also, you definitely can “choose who you want to be”, lol, God made us all free-willed entities! But I cannot be a camel, nor can I be a non-material entity, or (ethnically) Nepali. We have degrees of freedom but we are fundamentally constrained by reality. If you deny reality (a very post modern, perspectivist approach that’s been very popular in the West for some decades now), then sure, you’re no longer constrained but then you lose the capacity to make any “objective” assertions about the world (because you denied an external reality).
The “and” in the title is key. Humans can currently choose their gender expression, so that part can be stripped out with no changes to the world. Not assigning gender at birth is an interesting thought. Some people are really, from my view, weird about making sure their children perform gender correctly as early and often as possible.
Also I think it’d be neat if it was “genre” in English too. People understand there’s more genres than horror and fantasy.
It’s not really that it’s a choice to not be cis, but yeah, we shouldn’t assume people’s gender at all imho until they tell us themselves (and as children can’t tell us until they’re older don’t assume until they’re older), and even when they do it shouldn’t need to affect stereotypes or the way we grammatically refer to them or anything, just maybe what body they want to have and who can be attracted to them
Why would you trust anything someone says about themselves outright? What if they’re crazy? What if they’re lying? What if they’re wrong? Is that impossible, or does every person on Earth have perfect knowledge of themselves and their true selves at all times, and always speak the truth?
Why would you trust what someone else says about them rather than what they say about themself? If someone says they’re depressed, do you believe them, or do you need ‘objective proof’? Gender [dysphoria/euphoria] is the same, it’s an internal experience.
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Yes to all three. But people who claim to be trans are rarely any of those, and scientific consensus shoes that trusting them generally leads to less harm than disbelieving them - especially as puberty blockers are fully reversible. If the adolescent is not trans, they can stop them and have their natural puberty continue as normal.
Stop segregating by sex too, there’s no reason to do that unless you need a penis to complete an activity.
Developmentally, babies don’t even have gender yet. Gender develops in the brain between the ages of 2 and 4 (and keeps developing until the end of puberty). I don’t think it’s developmentally appropriate to gender babies. All babies are nonbinary, and we should encourage children to choose a gender and pronouns as a rite of passage on their fourth birthday.
How do you know you didn’t and you just happened to guess wrong? Like you were like oh “seems cool” then your neurons grew in mismatched.
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This is what I’m saying! Maybe it’s like that game from rick and Morty. 1% chance you get a brain tumor, 1% chance you just get put in the wrong body in some way or other cuz fuck you that’s why.
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