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    I absolutely hate those “let’s go around the circle and introduce ourselves” exercises. Making children do them seems especially cruel.

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      Don’t you think it’s good to train children to be able to talk to strangers, in public and introduce themselves? I know it’s stressful but I think it is useful.

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            The problem is the lack of structure.

            I organize a lot of workshops involving people from experts to executives, where you always need an introduction round, and I give them a structure to follow. Makes the task it easier, but it’ll also be much more useful for the group, as we’ll focus in the aspects of a person that matter for the context of the workshop.

            For a class intro in primary school, it could be:

            • name and age
            • nickname you’d like others to call you
            • favorite subject
            • favorite hobby / free time activity

            I just made this up, but a teacher could probably come up with something even more fitting.

            The point is, always give people structure or guidance, you’ll get much more out of similar introduction rounds.

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          What do you think is different compared to when you join some new company, training or club and you are asked to present yourself to the group?

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          Someone in our new partner team has scheduled a meeting for 11am today for us to introduce ourselves to each other.

          Guess how it’s going to be structured

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            I guess the teachers will just have to make educated guesses based on which students they presume will end up strung out, and then have only those kids practice the introductions.

            (But, for real, I’ve encountered this shit in numerous workplaces)

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        It’s not training though, you get thrown into the real thing immediately that decides the rest of your social time at school.

        If you were encouraged and made to practice in private before, then I would agree with you. But there is no “training” in this, it’s just, either you can already do it or you can’t.

        It would be possible to coach kids about what to say in such situations, make them prepare and practice in private, let the teacher hear the introduction before anyone else, give feedback, and then put them in front of the class. And afterwards, talk about how it went, what went well, what to improve. Does any of this happen? If no, then it’s no training.

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          It’s not training though, you get thrown into the real thing immediately that decides the rest of your social time at school.

          Aren’t you exaggerating a little? Kids get to know each other better with time too.

          Agreed with doing it with guidance and feedback.

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        It’d just be a lot less horrible if you don’t have to come up with something to say about yourself. Kids are RUTHLESS and if you’re not quick on your feet, or even if you are, but the thing you say can be taken wrong, you will be bullied for the rest of your time in school over it. Unless you luck out and someone else’s thing is even worse.

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        Introducing yourself to others is normal. Speaking infront of a group is not. Both can bring out social anxiety but public speaking is different than socializing with a small group.

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          Both are very important. Not being able to speak in front of a group can change the trajectory of your entire life. Children especially should have as many paths open as possible for when they’re ready to decide which one to take.

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          Both can bring out social anxiety

          Generally speaking, socialization is like a muscle. You have to use it to build it. Which is why we have schools introduce people to social settings in controlled settings and with incrementally more difficulty.

          “Nobody should ever have to interact with more than a handful of other people at a time” is a recipe for building a population of socially anxious people.

          When you cloister kids at a young age, then introduce them to a big school full of more advanced students, you’re throwing them into the deep end of the pool late in the game. But just insisting “they’re 11 years old! they’ll never be social! lost cause!” is infinitely more cruel than weening them into society as best as your system can.

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        Yes, but some people, myself included, find forcibly requiring individuals to introduce themselves in succession to be disingenuous.

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          I have had to participate in a “Everyone introduce themselves” like five times at a job I’ve worked at less than a year. I don’t enjoy it, and I don’t think anyone does, but it’s also important to know who the people you are working with are. Would I ever do it if I didn’t have to? No way. But I do. And practice has made it easier at least.

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          Yes, and a lot of shit you have to do socially in life is going to be disingenuous. I hated it, I still hate it, but I’ve also seen it used well as a way to at least ensure everyone has spoken before a discussion group. It’s an icebreaker, it’s not supposed to be deep talk, it’s supposed to mean there’s a chance that everyone has at least heard each other’s name once before

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      One could say it’s healthy for a growing child to occasionally be put in awkward situations where they have to define themselves. It’s not fun but it helps shape personality.

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      I’m 44 and I used to hate those too. But there is one fun fact about these. If you go first, you can fill it in as you want and every one will follow your format. Quite funny once you notice this.

      Anyway next time I have one of those, I’ll make sure to add “favorite dinosaur” to it.

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      i do too. I have 3 believable truths 3 unbelievable truths, 3 believable lies, 3 unbelievable lies, 7 “interesting facts” about me (i used to have 8 but one of them, uh it required me to tell a joke and that does not work at 8 AM so now it’s gone. I don’t function 8 AM well before.) and i can pick and choose between my pre-prepped bullshit based on my audience and how awake and healthy i feel and what stupid game they decide to play.

      worst part is i used to do improv so for the longest time i would just wing it and did fine. then they started doing them before coffee. now i gotta copy my bullshit offa my phone onto cue cards if i have one of those things

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    Flashback to a kid in my class who ruined his entire highschool time by saying “my name is [name] and I breed rabbits” during the first 10 minutes of school.

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      Man, kids at your school were fucking stupid. That kid had shittons of rabbits that needed petting.

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        So many school problems could have been solved by saying “you guys are dumb fucks.”

        I mean the teacher saying that.

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      Oof, that’s rough. Was it an urban school? I grew up in an agricultural area and I swear pretty much everybody was breeding something

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        Yes it was. It was also the early 00’s and we were a bunch of 12 year old shits, and he was (in hindsight) rather on the spectrum.

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      It’s no better or worse than going with the usual Egon quote about collecting fungus, molds, and spores. That’s how nerds find each other, one of them fires off a signal flare, revealing their location and putting themselves in danger, and other misfits sit next to them at lunch so they can all get hazed together.

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        I never realized that when I was thrown into a locker, it was actually a giant allegory for a ‘gathering the group’ montage.

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          How people find each other in school. Normal people probably just have to read magazines or act like each other to fit in. If you’re a misfit you’re never going to find other misfits with that playbook.

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            I don’t know about you, but my school had clubs that let me meet other people with similar interests. Ironically, that’s literally what the anime this is referencing is about.

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              I am happy for you. My experiences differed. I was the only kid at my school who knew you could spend recess in the library, and the clubs were all sports until much later.

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    Would have been pretty funny (to those in the know) if he managed to do it with confidence. Shame.

    Also damn, this Greentext is 10 years old. Doing this nowadays in highschool would definitely net you a room full of blank stares (best case) even if you don’t botch the delivery.

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        That’s just from psychological stress of delivering a presentation facing a room full of unfamiliar beings. He only interacts with aliens, time travellers and espers!

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    I am hella lucky with my highschool experience. No one really gave a shit about the typical highschool stuff. People could also eat anywhere in the school, since there was not enough room in the cafeteria.