Wait… Are we all rooting for Iran now?
Oh they will.there is nothing to win for the usa.
It’s possible to want both “sides” to lose
“Did you ever consider that I wanted both sides to lose?”
– Bilbo Baggins Lord of War
In fact, it’s inevitable. How could either side win anything from this? Unfortunately, the individual who desperately needs to lose will almost certainly face no consequences, as always.
Kind of. I mean … I wouldnt be sad if something happened … I would be the opposite of sad.
Das??
Crazy
The enemy of my enemy…
Yes
Why wouldn’t we?
I’m rooting for not Trump, just like when I vote.
I’m rooting for the side I know will win, which is AIPAC. They control members of both parties.
But why would you want them to win?
I don’t want them to win, but I know they will win.
Just like how I didn’t want Trump to win but knew he would win.
You root for the side you want to win, not who you think will win.
We’re rooting for the straits on Hormuz to reopen and whatever other chaos is rocking the oil markets to stop. Economic damage, especially on this scale, ends up in people dying from all sorts of causes in the US as well.
I don’t particularly care if we get a little more egg on our face if it means pulling up out of this tailspin.
Let them fight.
Polymarket is still rooting for the strange rash.
Oh man, if Iran kills Trump I would be so happy.
It’d cause a huge amount of trouble, and many people would die
But I’d still pop a bottle of champagne I’ve been saving
I feel comfortable saying I believe it would solve MANY more problems than it would cause.
As cathartic as it would be to know trump is dead, yeah you are probably right. It would be excellent though if he could be covertly killed by poison or something, and it look exactly like old age that killed him
Sure? But it would be more excellent to know he died by poison, or something far more painful and horrific.
It might not solve the problems per say but it would change some of them into completely different and potentially less terrible problems
MAGA would essentially implode, it’s all about Trump and when he passes there’s no one who can carry the torch. These people will go on talking about it being a liberal conspiracy Trump is dead and become even more violent.
There’s already a huge amount of trouble and people have died.
How many of Irans ‘leaders’ were got in the terrorist attacks? If that were reciprocated I wonder if the world would blink.
The disgusting child murdering pedofile lives here
Conveniently right on the coast, no need to go far inland!
It’d be like Iron Man 3, but waaaay easier. Y’know hypothetically…
I’d say “They can bill me!”
But we’re all getting billed either way. =\
I know it’s wildly put of the realm of possibility, but just imagine…
I mean in the era of 3d-printed fpv drones, it’s strange to me that he still lives.
The most powerful person in the world… With FBI, CIA, NSA, ICE, Police, and Secret Service protection before and after every public appearance… You’re surprised that person is safe!?
Well, yes? Cause it’s not like any of them can do anything to fpv on optic fiber. You can’t jam it, you can only hit it mid-air and it’s very unlikely. You don’t even need to be very close physically, about 5km radius ez, you don’t even need to be near at all when the assassination happens - place it on some roof beforehand and remote-control. It’s not like he doesnt show in public at all.
Making one is just a question of skill and dedication. There are 1/3 trillion Americans. My conclusion: there aren’t lot of you truly dedicated to the cause of removing him.
Not even out of the realm of possibility. He disintegrated khamenei and kidnapped maduro. Who’s stopping any country from doing that to him?
Can we crowd fund an assassin?
Nuclear capacity and the largest armies the world has ever seen would be my guess
So Iran is perfectly rational in trying to build nuclear weapons.
I don’t support nuclear proliferation, but I definitely understand why some countries pursue nuclear weapons
It’s a requirement to protect yourself from the evil warmongers like the US, Israel, Russia, and China. They wouldn’t have dared to do this if Iran had nukes.
Like with the proliferation of firearms among the left increasing. We don’t know if it’ll have an effect, but it’s a situation I’d rather not be found wanting.
JD wouldn’t destroy the world unless Daddy Theil tells him to
I miss this show
You can find 4 to 10 hour videos of it on youtube. At least it’s not gone and forgotten.
Right you are, Ken.
the resolution doesn’t hold up… Guy LaDouche. Kenny Blankenship… The Captain… ah, great show!
Don’t give in to the threats, Dear Leader, be out in the open as publicly and vulnerably as possible. If you show fear instead of living your life as normal then the terrorists winTM! You should definitely take zero precautions against these threats, you certainly won’t regret taking zero precautions against these threats.
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I love that for him
Dear God somebody needs to take him out. So far it’s been all the Republicans taking shots at him and fucking showing up on his properties with guns. They need some backup.
Hey Fates, are you listening? Can we just make the Caesar metaphor completely on the hose and have him be stabbed to death by a group of Republican Senators?
This sounds like something Trump would say, actually.
Trump is 100000000000000% more likely to die from eating yet another McBurger in the next 24hrs than he’s to be assassinated by the Islamic Regime from now to the end of his natural lifespan.
Also, to people who’d view that as a positive because hurr durr Trump (I get it): that would lead to President Vance with a mandate to wage a war of revenge. The whole political discussion would suddenly shift from all the damage that Trump has done to USA, to destroying Iran, with a high possibility of giving more strength to republicans.The point Iran is making is that a war does not need billions of dollars of munitions to turn. They can do a lot of damage economically. This world would have been a 20x better place if some kid just aimed 2 inches to the right.
I think about that, and he honestly just shouldn’t have gone for the headshot. At over 70 years old, it’s very unlikely a hollow point to the chest will be survivable.
I don’t think causus belli works like that in the modern day, and we haven’t cared about legal mandates for war in the US for like 50 years.
Vance probably won’t have a political mandate for continued war because a historically unpopular and getting more so by the moment president was killed in retaliation for a war he started.
I see it claimed that Vance would be worse a lot, but he doesn’t even remotely have what it takes to be a cult leader, which is all the GOP is now. The power vacuum could only be a good thing.
I do agree with you that Vance is a buffoon, but underestimating people like him is exactly how we got Trump in the first place. People just assumed he was doing it as a goof and had no real chance of winning and then he won. Twice.
It’s entirely possible that when Trump dies or if he leaves office (it is really depressing that I have to say if there) the GOP will just pick Vance to take his place. We know the Republican base will gobble up whatever garbage is shoved down their throats so it’s really not that hard to believe.
When will dumb Americans realise that the president does not have opinions of his own (except when it comes to gay, trans and women’s rights) the president simply does what the lobby groups and superPACs tell him to do. The most powerful superPAC in America is AIPAC, which controls members of both parties. So, both parties will bomb middle East. It doesn’t matter who you vote. It’s a very democratic system, where 1 dollar = 1 vote.
I could certainly see Vance being worse in certain areas. But not as broadly bad.
I am not so sure. Trump is an idiot and ignores people’s advice because he thinks hes a genius, so I could see Iranian cells in america coming up with a viable assassination plot. Especially since they are not against kamikazee typed assassinations.
viable assassination plot
a young, attractive woman
a young, attractive woman
with strong teeth
They said the same thing about JFK
Did he eat a lot of burgers or something?
Vance isn’t any better
He doesn’t have the cult of personality that Trump has. This means Republicans can and will openly challenge him which could destabilize the party.
He’ll have the same crutches and props in the media as trump, but he has a functional brain and theil guiding him. He’s worse.
He’s dangerous, all right, but the GOP Nazis have built their power on the backs of Trump’s cult. Losing them would be a huge blow they would have to work hard to recover from.
I never have understood this take. Vance has a lot of evil in him but Trump’s strength lies in having millions of supporters. Vance doesn’t have that. They barely tolerate him. Politics isn’t about just getting into power, you have to have people willing to support your plans. As much as Trump wants it to be, it’s not a dictatorship, and the only reason it looks so much like one is that he has thousands of people in government who will break the law because he wants them to. What reason do we have to think they’d be even half as willing to do that for Vance?
Also, a good chunk of people think he’s weirdo couch fucker that wears mascara and is Peter Theil’s butt boy.
I’ve also heard at least one person claim they think Vance had Charlie Kirk killed so as to get with Erika Kirk. Which while weird isn’t even outside of the realm of possibility funny enough, I could definitely see Vance being part of a plot to kill old bleedy kneck to get with Mrs. Bleedy kneck.
Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn’t win an election against him when it came to that.
I agree
I’m extremely grateful for the fact that I live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica
If it weren’t for the fact I’m a USA citizen, I’d migrate elsewhere. I may not be high demand but I’m certain there’s countries out there that’d still take someone with my career knowledge still.
There are many pathways to emigrate
Lots of countries have visas available to people with qualifications
Look up “skilled migrants” visas
Australia is at least one option
A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I’ve looked about and not seen anything related to IT.
If they nuke Trump, there is a good chance he’s close enough.
Lots of folks in the DMV don’t need to go down with Trump et al.
The DMV is not magaland
This argument is weak
Vance has the charm and charisma of a dead mouse under a door mat. Right wing propaganda and think tanks built the perfect fascist base but it was hijacked by Trump and they won’t follow anyone else exclusively. There’ll still be MAGA like there’s still cultists from dead cults.
No he might actually be worse overall because he’s Thiel’s special boy but also he wouldn’t just impulsively nuke Malaysia because they were mean to him. Mostly because he’s Thiels special boy and Peter is terrified of death
He is because he isn’t a cult leader. The power vacuum could only be a good thing.
I don’t fucking care. Things are horrible now. I’ll take the gamble you’re wrong (which you are. Vance isn’t a mascot like Trump.)
I want to buy a telescoping flag pole. Forget half mast, I want to be able to fly flags at double mast when someone particularly wicked dies.
The flags will be brought down and then replaced with the traditional “Yippie” flag on the day of his death.
How about this, we root for the Islamic regime of Iran to fall. And we root for Trump to have a massive heart attack and shit himself once again on TV while walking across the stage or maybe down the stairs of Air Force One so he’s remembered as the jackass that died on TV.
Trump dies in an Iranian attack, instant martyr.
Trump dies the most embarrassing way possible, not a martyr.
I’m sure it’ll turn into a right wing conspiracy where he didn’t actually die or was staged and he’s living with Epstein in Israel
Why do you want the Islamic regime of Iran to fall and what do you expect takes it’s place?
Any government based in religion is idiotic and deserves to fall.
Fall from within is one thing. Being toppled externally is another entirely.
Governments don’t actually get toppled by mobs of protesters storming the palace gates. Machine guns are quite effective at preventing that. They topple when some other individual or faction convinces enough key players in the country that the new guys are a better option. The protesters only storm the gates when the army decides to look the other way. And the army only decides to look the other way when there’s some viable alternative to the existing government. No high-ranking general with a retirement to worry about wants to see the state they serve collapse into complete anarchy.
The point of this is that internal revolutions tend to be good for their people. A revolutionary movement can only successfully topple a government when they can make a good case to a lot of powerful people that they can competently manage the gears of state.
But imposed from without? You can invade a place and stick someone on the throne, but they won’t have any legitimacy. And that power and legitimacy vacuum leads to sectarian violence and civil wars. Or, as in the case of the Shah, the foreign-imposed leader maintains their position through shear force and barbarity.
Homie, they fucking hang people in the street as part of public executions. Do I really need to continue or is this the hill we die on?
We should do the same to the Epstein pedophile. Sounds great to me
Right but that’s hanging people for being a pedophile and not something as light as apostasy.
I mean, that’s what they said about Saddam. And then Iraq had a million dead over the next decade…and ISIS.
Saddam was also a fucking monster. He gassed Kurdish villages.
Are you looking to reintroduce slave markets like Libya?
Sounds like a terrible idea.
Who are you to police another country in another part of the world? You shoot citizens in the street for looking at officers funny and have thrown out decades of progress to make a few guys filthy rich. You don’t get a say in the affairs of others.
Full disclosure I don’t agree with the US doing any of this, I’m Canadian and even Carneys supporting of the US right now means I’ll never vote for him again. That being said, I 100% support a grassroots overthrow by Iranians of their own fucking repressive government. Something they’ve been working on by the past few months in massive protests. I stand with the people of Iran, not fucking religious lunatics in their government.
Can we go for something more Biblical? Maybe struck by lightning immediately after, in an outdoor public speech, denying having any involvement with Epstein?
I can live with that
Shoot the jump shot. Shoot it!
… That’s a veiled threat, huh?
