Hello! I never used *arr stack, and was interested into it, but one thing is stopping me. I see a lot of articles like how it is Netflix (or any other ONLINE theater) replacement, but as I see it is not online. I see two big factors that stops me from trying seerr + jellyfin (and other stuff in between):
- You have two switch between those apps to search and then watch.
- You can’t watch media before it’s completely downloaded.
I imagine sitting on coach, searching for show. Then you want to watch some, and then you have to wait half an hour for full episode (or even season?) to download. And then you can realize that you not into it and have to repeat all the steps above. Is my expectation correct? Please don’t consider this as negative opinion. Just want to know what to expect. I remember an app called “popcorn time” that does not have that flaws.
UPD: Thanks for replies guys! I read it all. I will deploy the stack some day, but right now I will keep my current setup (which is qbittorent-nox, some public web jackett instance local for my country, and just simple smb shared folder). I also have some selfhosted debris alternative torrserver for times I don’t have enough space to download full show.
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Since I started using Jellyfin and arr, searching and watching have become separate activities. Gone is the experience where I discover something and am watching it immediately. And, search/discovery is done on separate apps than where I watch. So my behaviour has changed. I think ahead. I keep any eye out for what people are watching and download what seems good to me. The payoff is I’m not limited to what’s on any particular platform and I don’t pay subscription fees.
You’re right, it’s for building a private library, not a “what’s new to watch now” stream. There are other tools for that, like stremio or real-debrid.
Once you adjust it works well. The whole “find something at random to watch” paradigm is not really how *arr works, but if a coworker mentions a show I can have it ready when I get home.
It would be nice to have streamio work with your arr stack.
It’s a great user experience, but the android app gives you no control over the torrents, doesn’t handle port forwarding & isn’t really opensource AFAICT.
Depending on your download speed, you can manually download a TV show episode in seconds to minutes. By the time you watch that episode, at least the next one will be ready. It is quite rare to have to do this though, me and my family mostly add shows on Seer when we find them (recommendations, adverts, etc) and by the time we’ve sat down to watch it’ll be ready.
I did the whole lists thing others have mentioned but to be honest, we found there was too much choice, lots of crap and quickly ran out of space. Taking an active role in choosing shows and films works better for us and I’ll have a short list at any time to watch.
I’d love to have internet fast enough that “seconds to minutes” were a reality.
Its possible to have seerr search integrated into the main jellyfin search.

Streaming torrents popcorn or stremio style is not very practical and never has been. Popcorntime still has working forks and stremio works with jellyfin to some degree but unless you also use a paid debrid service or maybe if you dont care about tanking your ratio on a private tracker There are jusy way better solutions: like using either an on demand iptv service inside jfin that costs about the same as debrid anyway but also gets you live tv.
Not to say there isnt tons of room for improvement still, but a lot of progress is being made. I suggest to folx if jellyfin doesnt meet your standards yet, try back in a year and see how much progress gets made.
Friend, how do I do Seerr in Jellyfin? Could you post a link?
I did this by using Seer and Jellyfin Enhanced Plugin. Also here is a list of Jellyfin plugins
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Beautiful. Thank you!
The whole point of the arrs is to download things in advance. Many users set up Import Lists… There are also apps like Boxarr.
Netflix’s model is to provide the cheapest, low-quality media you can bear to watch. The kind of browsing you are describing is your distressed search to find something watchable. If you populate a server with good TV or at least TV that interests you, you won’t want to hop between media like that.
Your expectation is absolutely correct, and I often find myself looking at my current Jellyfin collection and have absolutely nothing I want to watch.
SuggestArr tries to fill this hole by automatically downloading content similar to what you already have, but I have yet to deploy it. (note that its development seems aided by LLMs and it has “AI” powered features)
Maybe jellyseerr is something for you 😇
I already use Jellyseerr (recently renamed Seerr) but it does not resolves my “what to watch?” issue.
My wife hates Jellyfin. When the whole world’s media is at her fingertips, she gets choice paralysis. She finds it easier for Netflix to serve up a small number of suggestions and just pick from there, even they’re all crap suggestions.
Ive found it so much better to disconnect from suggestion algorithms. I’m much more intentional with what I watch. I never run out of things to watch. I bookmark movies and TV shows from organic suggestions from friends, family and Lemmy, or from podcasts, critic reviews, my followed YouTube channels, etc. Everything on my Jellyfin is curated content that I want to watch.
To help combat this I’ve created numerous collections in Plex based on commonly shared traits like genre, actors, directors, release decade, holidays and placed these collections at the top of my library. You can even find artwork for all this stuff on The Poster DB. I also make sure to put sequels into their own collections and separate animated TV/movies from all the live action stuff (four separate libraries) to further reduce the wall of choices.
I find the suggestions on Seerr not always very relevant, but it definitely functions as a “what to watch?” service for my needs.
Any reason not using Streamio?
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Yes and no. You need to understand that no home service truly replaces Netflix, for a few reasons (the media might not be available on any of the services you’re using, for example).
It’s also not as simple as searching for a media in Jellyfin/Plex (or whatever other media frontend you choose, like Emby). There’s a fixed flow.
But let’s start by explaining the layers:
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The frontend - Plex/Jellyfin/Emby/Kodi. This is what your users see, aka the “Netflix experience” - open the app, and all the media available on your storage device will be shown. Then they can click one and play it.
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The request manager - Seerr (previously Overseerr/Jellyseerr). This is a separate interface where your users can request media. You still need to manually accept it (unless you set it up to automate things fully, but make sure you trust your users!). If something isn’t available, your users will come here and ask for it, then the manager will show the status (requested, accepted, downloading, available). Once available, your users can watch it through the frontend.
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The media managers - Radarr/Sonarr/Lidarr/etc. This is the software responsible for keeping a list of media you want, regularly looking them up on torrent trackers, Usenet servers, etc., and matching your requirements (resolution, language, encoding, file size, and so on), then grabbing the release and passing it on to the download client.
When you accept a request in the request manager, it passes on the info to the media manager, which adds the requested media to its internal list and begins looking for it.
- Download client - torrent/Usenet downloader (qBittorrent, sabnzbd, etc.) pretty straightforward, this thing takes an incoming download request from the media manager, and downloads the file according to protocol, then signals the manager that the download is ready.
At this point, control is passed back onto the media manager, which finds the freshly downloaded file, copies/moves it to the right place according to settings, renames it according to settings, marks it done then sends a signal to the request manager to indicate the request was fulfilled.
Finally, the media frontend, which is set up to watch the folder where the new media items are copied/moved and renamed, gets a notification that a new file is available, scans it, prepares metadata (poster, background image/music, description, actor and production lists, ratings, etc.), and makes it available in the search interface.
So the key differences with Netflix are:
- limited content compared to Netflix
- the ability to request new media
- no CDNs, so if you have lots of users and not much bandwidth/processing power (latter in case of transcoding), your users will struggle. A standard home server and internet connection can serve 3-4 users at the same time.
- limited language support. since these are pirated media, and most pirated media has at most 2-3 audio tracks, you’ll lose that Netflix perk of having 6-8-10 audio tracks available. subtitles can be supplemented though (audio tracks too but they rarely match perfectly to the video so it’s not as simple as downloading a file and call it a day).
That about covers all the functional differences between an arr stack and Netflix.
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Aside from the point that Jellyfin is meant to browse your own personal collection of files usually after the fact…
Some file formats like mkv do work even if partially downloaded, so if you’re downloading a torrent for a free libre open source movie, choose the option to download chunks in sequential order, and I think there’s a way that you can watch while downloading.
Yeah, that’s a very good point! I use it sometimes manually on qbittorent. Can it be done automatically for all downloads on qbittorent?
https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/164
TIL it has purposely not been implemented by the main developers in over a decade for ideological reasons. There are scripts and forks to enable it by default.
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My media server has more shit I want to watch on it than Netflix does, it’s not even close. Yeah it took some time to build my library but it’s paid off. Even starting out just queue up a bunch of shit ahead of time and it will be ready to go when you go to watch it. I personally watch shows through the week as they take longer to get through and are more adaptable to the amount of free time I have. Then I queue up any new movies for the weekend and new shows as I hear about them. It’s not difficult to stay ahead of the curve with some minimal planning. My backlog will take me months to get through. Also your media library will never remove shit before you’re done and you’re not limited to just what the streaming services you have are currently offering.
Same here, every now and then I browse IMDB/TMDB for future releases and request them in Seerr. Then sometime later they just appear in Jellyfin and Plex. There’s always more than I can get through.
Watch the trailers first ;)
Yeah, that’s enough for me in 90% times. But does seerr provide such feature? Because I don’t see trailers in last two videos about *arr stack I watched on YouTube.
I think Jellyseer gives you the ability to watch trailers or see external links (imdb, tvdb, etc) for the show/movie.
Like others have said, this stuff is really about building a collection not streaming something the moment the idea to watch it pops in your mind. It can replace Netflix but you’d want to build it up first (with plenty of HDD space to do so). Mine is also shared with family and friends so it supplements their watching too.
You can’t watch media before it’s completely downloaded.
This is not true for just about any use case.
If you use *arr, you’ll likely use Plex or Jellyfin for a media server. That server will do progressive streaming. Netflix by contrast does dynamic adaptive progressive streaming.
Progressive streaming means that playback will start once your client has downloaded and buffered enough of the selected content from the server. The amount is typically a fairly small portion of the stream, like 10 seconds or so, though the specifics are left to the server and client configs.
Dynamic adaptive progressive streaming has a multiplicty of streams optimized for different devices, formats, and quality levels. This might be a few hundred copies of the same video asset, but in a few different codecs, a few different color encodings (ie HDR, SDR), and a quality ladder of maybe 10 steps ranging from low quality SD to moderate quality UHD (like maybe 300kbps at the low end, and 40Mbps at the high end. And these will be cached around the world for delivery efficiency. On playback, the client (player) will constantly test your network throughput in the background, and “seamlessly” adjust stream quality during playback to give you the best stream your network and client can support without stopping to rebuffer.
For example, if you’re on a 4K/HDR TV with Atmos sound, and great network throughput, you’ll get the highest quality HDR streams and Atmos audio. Conversely, if you’re on mobile that doesn’t support HDR and only stereo audio, you’ll get much more efficiently coded HD video (or maybe SD) and stereo audio streams that are more suited to playback on that device. It would be impractical (huge cost and minor benefit) to try to replicate dynamic adaptive streaming just for yourself.
In any case, even if you’re just pulling off a NAS, you shouldn’t need to wait for the entire file to download before you can start playback. If your files are properly coded, you should be able to do progressive streaming in just about any use case.
I interpreted their question differently. It sounds like they’re taking about Radarr having to download a movie before they can watch it, whereas streaming services have a “complete” (compared to a new *arr setup) library available to stream instantly.
Some bittorrent clients can start playing a video before it’s done downloading, and prioritize the torrent chunks in the right order so there aren’t any interruptions as long as there are seeders and you have enough bandwidth. But I don’t think plex or jellyfin can do it, and I don’t know of any alternatives that can.
Ah, I see the unclear part. I read this line…
I imagine sitting on coach, searching for show. Then you want to watch some, and then you have to wait half an hour for full episode (or even season?) to download.
As if OP already had a media library, and was outside of their home, sitting on a coach (bus?) and wanting to watch something from their existing library on their phone/laptop/tablet, thinking they’d have to wait for the entire thing to download. This would not be the case. If OP had no content library, and wanted to browse for something new, then yes, you’d need to download the entire thing and add it to your media library first.
- Getting stuff into your media library require downloading the thing.
- Watching stuff (even remotely) that already exists in your library does not require downloading the whole thing.
Yes, I mean to watch before it downloaded completely to my server via torrents. I would be happy, if qbittorent can enable “download in sequential order” enabled by default.
Got it.
So, yes, you’re basically correct.
There are search layers that remove the need to access radarr / sonarr directly when searching for shows (someone mentioned jellyseer, for example), so that part of the process can be streamlined, and once you’re watching a show it’s generally very good at pulling new episodes as soon as they’re available, so you’re typically, at most, a day behind actual airing dates. But if you’re trying to just bounce around and try a bunch of different shows it wouldn’t be the best for that. The biggest constraint is generally the speed of your internet and the popularity of what you’re watching. With a high speed connection and a well seeded torrent it’s often only a a couple of minutes to download a pilot episode, and you could have the whole season done by the time you finish watching that.
The other question is one of storage. If you’ve got plenty of hard disk space then you can probably afford to just throw anything that sounds interesting on your pull queue and work your way through it when you actually have time to sit down and watch. Basically you sort of pre-emptively build your “Netflix at home” library and then do your bouncing around channel hopping stuff with the five or so vaguely interesting shows that you added while you were at work.
Is it a replacement for Netflix et al? Not strictly speaking, but if you don’t mind changing up your habits a little it’s probably close enough.






