cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65174189
Florida public schools will force students to take a Heritage Foundation-backed class on the “evils of communism.”
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Let me guess, they will teach the evils of empathy outright.
Well of course, empathy is socialism
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_(King_James)/Matthew#chapter_19
(my bold)
.19 [538] Honour thy father and thy mother: and, [539] Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
.20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
.21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, [540] go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
.22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
.23 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That [541] a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
.24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
This country hasn’t been at risk of going communist in eighty years. The right are such scared fucking babies.
They want to brand Socialism as Communism so we stay stuck in Tickle Down delusions
It’s just propaganda. It’s not anti communist it’s pro capitalism/imperialism and ultimately pro fascism.
Ooohhh will this be like the DARE program and actually end up converting students to support communism??
I know I learned a LOT about recreational drugs from school <3
As soon as I saw the headline, I said, “I hope this is exactly as effective as D.A.R.E.”
Some polticail staffer from PragerU at a high school teaching kids.
PragerU staffer walks in and grabs a chair turns it backwards. Turns their baseball cap backwards
“For real, we bussin about the evils of communism. We capping 67 about how communism punishes billionaires. We going to ohio all over capitalism.”
Had a friend’s son tell me, very insistently, that Kim Jong Un convinced everyone in his county that he doesn’t poop. Also, that he’s planning to nuke South Korea, and we need to do something to stop him.
This was a kid with very liberal parents going to a very liberal middle school.
Red Scare shit is already everywhere. But I guess we’ve got to keep cranking the hysteria up to 11
The hyper capitalist south is by no means great but I’d rather that than a disappearance state with cardboard walls. Authoritarianism is bad regardless of economic structure.
Yes, because north Koreans must have a gene for authoritarianism or something. It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with having all of its towns destroyed and 20% of its population killed by the US in a savage bombing campaign where more bombs were dropped than in the entirety of WW2, and have been under a deathly and relentless imperialist siege since.
I’d rather that than a disappearance state with cardboard walls
Would be crazy if South Korea had a massive, brutal police state or a long history of improvised slums and ruthless exploitation of it’s citizenry.
Good thing we’re sanctioning North Korea to the hilt, guaranting none of those horrible practices become common place throughout the Western aligned Asian states
I heard that one about Kim a few times, alongside some more crazy “What the people actually believe” and it scares me. Do some actually believe such obvious nonsense, or are they all loudly claiming to believe it knowing the consequences for wrongthink? Do they think they’re the only ones with a working brain and everyone else is brainwashed, or do they understand they’re all in the same boat?
Or maybe is none of it real, I’ll be honest I cant even prove North Korea even exists, I’ve only seen it on maps and on TV, on the same medium that brought me Ghost busters.
i heard shit like this in school too. but it wasn’t from teachers or adults, just other idiot kids and i wasn’t dumb enough to take it as a definite truth, though i did consider it plausible.
I’m a GenXer and I have literally been fed anti-communist propaganda since I was a very small child. It’s only in the last 20 years or so that I finally “woke up” and realized how absolute bullshit it all really is.
I don’t think this is necessarily due to age. I think it’s just that circumstances have made capitalism look so bad that you realize that the propaganda was exactly that.
Also gen X & I remember always playing as the U.S.S.R. in any game that let me choose because of the absolute banger of a national anthem!
I went to one of the very posh UK universities where they’re split into smaller colleges, and my friend’s college would play the Soviet National anthem at the end of every big party that was hosted in the college bar. The college student union had even passed a motion mandating that.
It was a surreal experience to see. A large chunk of people loved this tradition, but for very different reasons. There were a decent number who were straight up communists (or at least sufficiently left wing that they loved the political subversiveness of celebrating this song at such a posh university); Some people liked it ironically, for the meme (of the anthem-enjoyers, this faction were typically the poshest of the bunch); meanwhile, some people just thought the song was a banger — in my view, on this matter, these were the most based of them
The Civ 1 music was menacing and awesome. It reminded me of the Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back.
first, so theres no confusion. i am against this program and its a facist move. i want to take a detour on your comment.
this article is more about socialism but people always confuse the two. i am a capitalist who believes in socialist programs. i believe in public health care, free public schooling (include universoty), and universal basic income. please use mybtaxes to pay for all of it.
capitalism is about owning your own busisness, ehich i agree with and does not conflict with everything socialism. not everything needs to be privately owned but we should have the freedom to privately own a business.
but your comment wasnt on socislism but communism. i have an honest question and not a snarky one, if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country? i genuinely want to know. communism doesnt support private property either and thats very important to me. i am also genx and for most of my kife, i have been happy with my country. my ideal president was barrack obama.
now that this country is becoming religous facist at the highest levels, i have thought aboit leaving so again , i wasnt being snarky. if i loved communism, i wouod have left.
sorry for the long comment, i judt hope you see i have a genuine curiosity, which is hard to communicate in a forum.
i have an honest question and not a snarky one, if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country?
You say this is honest, but this question has never been asked in good faith. Is the only reason you live where you live because the economic system it uses? Do you have no ties to the area besides? No family or history, or national pride? No job or property, or friends, or anything else? Do you speak every language and are accepted by and accepting of every culture, so you can just go anywhere and feel at home?
Anyone who asks this can fuck right off. At minimum, seeing issues and wanting to fix them for other people is enough of a reason to stay and try to change things. If you can’t see why people don’t want to uproot their lives to go somewhere else, even if that somewhere else existed and was exactly what they wanted, you aren’t actually being honest.
ibwas being honest and said that i am thinking of moving, depending on how midterms go. i do tjink changing things for the better isbworthbstaying but I don’t think communism is for the better. its not in the identoty, which is why I asked. since i am contemplating leaving witht the facist direction this country is taking , i wanted to know their reason
if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country?
First, there are no truly communist countries. Just authoritarian ones that use communism as a method of control. And now we live in an authoritarian country that uses capitalism as a method of control.
I also didn’t say anything about “loving communism”, whatever that is supposed to mean.
Prager U doesn’t make a distinction between socialism and communism. That’s the same propaganda we all got growing up in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Conflating one thing with another. And that is the problem. Prager U is going to tell kids that paying taxes so that a poor person can eat is communism and taking your property away to give it to someone who doesn’t want to work for a living. They’re going to tell kids that taxing rich people will prevent them from having enough money to create jobs for good hard working Americans. And that giving things away for free will make people not want to work.
These are the same lies we grew up with. Only with the failed state of the USSR as a “good example” of how communism(socialism) always fails. Ignoring the fact that it was deep corruption and authoritarian rule that actually destroyed the USSR.
Edit:
capitalism is about owning your own busisness
No, it is not. It’s about using the labor of other people to enrich yourself.
capitalism is about owning your own busisness
No, it is not. It’s about using the labor of other people to enrich yourself.
Maybe it’s about acquiring capital.
no capitalism is and only is, the private ownership of commerce
Literally the definition of capitalism is private ownership of the means of production.
Commerce is the act of selling and buying goods.
You should… Idk, get better at thinking?
Death to capitalism and long live communism. Get fcked fascist piece of sht.
Fuck Stalinism and tankies.
Hitler and Stalin were allies 1939 to 1941.
Long live Freedom.
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Is that freedom in the room with us now?
I suppose yes, as wt:thon perhaps is in many rooms.
What does that have to do with Communism?
Many would describe them as Communists, or at least socialists, including, presumably, themselves.
We might as well add Trotsky, Lenin, Castro, Mao, Hoxhua, Guzmán, Luxemburg, and maybe General Secretary of the Communist Party of Kampuchea, Pol Pot.
Hiring people educated in Florida is a liability.
Alongside “Pedo Worship 101”?
That’s the theology class
Funny how “communism always fails on its own” or “is a failed ideology”, yet is/was so significant, that it has to have it own special section.
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
https://www.kesterbrewin.com/2025/01/26/14-hallmarks-of-fascism/
We see this a lot with the right
And also an embargo and constantly plagued by the US.
Exactly and constantly and incessantly propagandized
Or that it has to be taught as an “inherently authoritarian ideology” and/or that it means <bad thing happening under capitalism>.
“The socialist housing plan” tweet hahah
npc wojak.jpg
“Cheap housing in urban areas bad. Suburban sprawl with McMansions good.”
When china does it, bad. When america does it, based
Both still bad for conservatives. Also in Europe too, NIMBYs here whine about commie blocks not having “kitchen gardens”, which is Europe’s golf grass, but at least there’s no HOA to force you to grow onions and grass flavored tomatoes in your garden, only societal pressure (which loosened a lot).
not having “kitchen gardens”
They really whine about that?
Yes, but nowadays less often, and only the more extreme ones.
what a shithole
These people don’t see the evils of indoctrination? Teach history. Teach cause and effect and show the results. Then let people decide for themselves. This dumbing people down and telling them what to think isn’t helping anyone at all.
It’s not a matter of helping people in general, it’s a matter of helping these people maintain power and control.
Americans think it’s normal to pledge allegiance to a flag in school, they thank people for “their service” Indoctrination has been happening the whole time and it works.
Don’t many countries do this?
They are afraid people will decide they don’t really like a .01% hording 50% of the worlds wealth like dragons in their lairs on piles of gold.
- That gold might not be gold.
- Gold might not be that valuable.
- They might not be as rich as they’d have us think they are.
- They might not be as powerful as they’d have us think they are.
Billionaire apologists can fuck off.
If billionaires fucked off, our economy would hardly be the worse for it (provided we didn’t panic).
Then let people decide for themselves.
The more you learn about history, the more you realize you don’t know. Very difficult to “just teach history” when you’re talking about an unfathomable number of people making an unfathomable number of decisions with unclear cause and effect.
What you learn in school is a very high level and narrow reading of events, largely informed by documents and transcriptions preserved by the wealthiest people in a region.
The only thing that can ever come out of that kind of historical study is nationalist jingoism of one flavor or another.
This dumbing people down and telling them what to think isn’t helping anyone at all.
The purpose of public education history classes is to craft a shared national identity.
Dumbing down events and telling people what to think is a simple and effective way of achieving that end.
Remember, kids: if communism is evil and communism is “taking your hard-earned money away and giving it to people who don’t work hard enough,” then it’s your duty to demand the government stops those communist bailouts given to corporations that won’t support themselves.
“You see, kids. The free market can be a harsh teacher, but it is a good teacher, and while Altman will whine and cry about not getting any government money, what he needs is to learn a definite lesson from the free market—for his own good, for our own good, for the good of the American economy.”
Reminds me of the mandatory classes on Marxism-Leninism that my parents had to take at university in the GDR.
It’s almost like all these words ar3 just synonyms to authoritarianism or smt 🙈
Maybe let them cook, if this is as moronic as it sounds, it could turn out like D.A.R.E.
This is a stupid idea, but I have faith kids will smell the BS
Anti-communist education works weirdly well, and it might include boring-ass liberalism as a “genocidal ideology”, but not due to complicitness in wars, but due to abortion, etc.
I think anti-communist education works much better when a.) the majority of people aren’t suffering massively under capitalism and b.) when you don’t have a collapsing “communist” nation across the pond with which to say “We told you so!”. It’s way easier to point to the wonders of capitalism when you see people pulling themselves out of poverty by working their 9-5 factory job and raising 4 kids on a single income, and much harder when that system is now making you finance a $5 burrito, with interest.
