And then they’ll ask why people see Luigi as a hero.
tl;dr - convicted Guilty by jury, then-Governor of NJ who was handing out pardons like candy immediately pardoned him via a pre-existing clemency request that went into public view on the nj.gov website while they were clearing the courtroom after the jury left. Rest of the article is word salad, probably AI.
Thanks. NYT is paywalled.
The article is so poorly written. I can’t believe people pay for this kind of garbage writing.
They don’t that’s why the writing is garbage
I don’t have a problem with the writing style. Doesntseem like AI to me.
You forgot about how humid it was.
Unsurprisingly the same Governor that made plates and insurance mandatory for all e-bikes. Guy had a busy week as he was leaving office apparently.
Issuing this pardon before the jury had even rendered the verdict. Funny how mountains can be moved so expeditiously when it’s for a friend.
Here’s a similar story from a couple years ago about a racist piece of shit who shot and killed a protestor, was found guilty by a jury of peers, then governor and likely klan member Greg Abbott pardoned him.
Here’s a quote from Daniel Perry on social media before he murdered someone at a BLM protest in cold blood:
“I might go to Dallas to shoot looters.”
And
The friend replied to Perry, “Can you catch me a negro daddy", and Perry responded, “That is what I am hoping.”
Abbott pretended it was a self defense killing when Perry drove up, shot his victim who was pushing his girlfriend’s wheelchair, the drove off. It didn’t hold up in court so he lied about it in his pardon. Murderers and would-be slavers, Abbott and Perry deserve a long drop and a short rope. Pardons are a mockery of justice by jury decision.
Pictures of the victim and his family/friends, no pictures of the dickhead or his piece of shit father in either article. Interesting.
Image search of Harris Jacobs Joe Jacobs brings them all up if you want. I’m not likely to run into them from 3000 miles away.
But if I did, I wouldn’t flee the scene like a coward.
I’m sure the pictures are not hard to find, which speaks to the journalism.
Holy shit, that article is tedious to read. Nowadays “good writing” seems to mean “jump around in the timeline a lot and write a whole lot of irrelevant backstory”.
The writer needs AI to pad the words in an article, and the reader needs AI to sum up an article quickly.
Maybe it was an AI?
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Its clear pardons are a major component of institutionalized corruption and should have some kind of formal review process by legislative bodies.
Imo if you attempt a pardon, and are overruled by either a majority of the state Congress or subsequently a majority of your electorate. You may split the sentence between yourselves equally.
And federal pardons should simply be abolished.
The power of the pardon is so fucking stupid. Make prosecutors and cops and judges accountable for legal malpractice, and make legislators include negating convictions as part of legislation that changes a law.
I really like the idea of invalidating the law if a pardon was issued. I immediately wonder how fascists would use it as a weapon somehow.
They pardon someone for being a pedo.
Maybe your plan wouldn’t work so well.
Pardon election interference?
I just don’t understand, are these politicians really that stupid? You do shit like this when the general public is more cognizant of distrust in government institutions, you start building factories for more Luigis. If your average normies are experiencing a noticeable and tangible decrease in standard of living, are personally and physically seeing more live protests, are constantly seeing a stream of authoritarian moves from the government, and you pile on this blatant miscarriage of justice seen from both major parties, where do you think people are gonna turn to for justice? And when you’re this public and blatant about it, who’s head is on the spike first, historically speaking? I really don’t think everyone is prepared for the consequences of continuing down this road, because participation in the consequences will likely be much more mandatory than they have been historically.
They believe they can get away with it because nothing that bad has happened yet. Like most people, they don’t think it long term consequences and these things build up over time, build momentum until they can’t stop it. But then it’s too late.
It doesn’t help that like most people they’re comparing themselves with their neighbors and peer group to try and outdo each other. And in their case it’s not who holds the best backyard barbeque but it’s a gala on their yacht. And like most people don’t think too much about the cow who’s meat is now on the grill, they don’t think about a few thousand workers they swindled out of their wage.
We can not allow 2 justice systems to exit. If the law isnt equal for all, then what is it? What is the point?
The government wants our taxes, but refuses to represent us or protect us. Thats not what i signed up for. Thats not american. Thats not worth defending.
you already have 2 systems… it’s time to act to destroy them and fix it
To go further, it IS worthy of contempt, hatred, and VIOLENCE DESTRUCTION.
OPPRESSION MUST BE MET WITH AN EQUAL OR GREATER REACTION. EVERY TIME.
Here is another case of a connected rich man killing a poor innocent, and going scot free. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmbwU3J-2kk
Bob Dylan - The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll
To be fair, pardons exist for cases such as The Hurricane
With great pardon power comes great pardon responsibility
I think also hesitency
It would been a shame if karma bite that guy in the ass and he got assaulted in the street and left for dead.
Should America be reformed, there should be a rule about pardons: A governor initiates the pardon, then 51% of all participating voters has to reject the pardon to prevent it. Further, the pardon’s effect is restricted to their state. A presidential pardon is national, but again requires 51% of participating voters to deny it.
This form of cancelling vote allows decision makers to have reasonable autonomy, but if voters vote against it, the pardon is easily denied by the public. The voter pool is whoever sends in a vote of yay or nay. So if there are people dedicated to preventing a leader from making bad pardons, they can get out the word and swell the pool of rejection votes.
IMO, we should have open-sourced digital and standardized direct voting on all matters, with physical laminated printouts for verification against the digital votes. Everyone attached to a city can vote there, those who live in a state can vote on state matters, and occupants of the nation can do the same on that level. No gender or qualifications, beyond having a residence within the nation, and having citizenship - regardless of how it was obtained.
It seems a LOT easier to just take away pardons entirely. They are abused more often than not.
Yeah, it sucks for innocent folks. But their sentence can still be commuted.
The fact we still have the death penalty that’s still unjustly applied across race is every reason pardon powers should stay in effect. Controls need to be in place for certain for them but getting rid of them I feel is a slippery slope into further punishment incarceration for minor infractions, especially POC.
Part of an overhauled America, would likely entail a redoing of all kinds of things. Including a standardization of criminal codes - getting rid of legacy criminal qualifications in every state, and starting fresh from a clean sheet design. Over time I expect that sort of thing to eventually devolve with the introduction of new codes, but we can enshrine things.
For example, requiring attorneys to switch between defense and offensive roles, allowing both sides to pick their representatives, make it so that all legal representation is free, standardize records of lawyers for people to review, ensure juries are split in half, each receiving an explanation of the defense or offense at the same time, ect.
To sum up: make it harder to game the legal system, and give the prosecution and defense equal standing. Right now, prosecutors get too many advantages.
Probably a topic best for the Legal Eagle team to roundtable and do some game theory on.
Pardon powers have been in effect while this was unjustly applied.
I understand the impulse, but they frankly don’t contribute meaningfully to the actual criminal justice system.
After Richard Nixons pardon, It should have been unequivocally. Fucking. Over.
Seems to me that this is a great argument for getting rid of the death penalty. It’s a win-win. No more pardons for the guilty, no more executions for the innocent.
In theory, pardons can be good for national security stuff. But yeah, outright elimination is definitely an option worth considering. There is a lot of baggage in the Constitution that wasn’t…good. We have much more hindsight to work with than the Founding Fathers.
with physical laminated printouts for verification against the digital votes
How do you keep your vote secret then?
You show your physical ballot if you believe that there is foul play, and need to prove it. Otherwise, your vote remains anonymous.
Secret ballot means no one, not even you, should have a record of who you voted for.
Vigilante justice. It doesn’t always work out. Occasionally it does. Just saying.
Vigilante justice. Chomping at the bit to dole out a death sentence based on a 34 word post title on a website.
I didn’t say that. You said that. What the hell is up with the death sentence talk?
Vigilantes can’t put people into jail.
No, but they don’t have to murder them either.
True dat!
Oh, I’m sorry. I was stereotyping vigilante mobs.
Wow. Such an assumer. I didn’t say anything about mobs. Perhaps your idea of vigilante justice is akin to an unruly mob of torch wielding townies that have come to string ‘em up? Good lord.
American justice. Best justice money can buy.
