Who could have foreseen the consequences of associating all Judaism with Isreal?! Maybe our rhetoric is costing innocent lives?
Nah let’s use this as a justification to escalate.
The rhetoric costing lives is part of the intent. As lives are lost and Jewish diaspora feels less and less safe, the incentive to resettle in Israel grows.
And literally making their synagogue named Israel…
crashed his car into Temple Israel outside Detroit on Thursday afternoon,
A lot of "Temple Israel"s are older than the state of Israel
I know people, here in Lebanon, with the last name Israel, who are older than the terrorist state.
Maybe more people here would be accepting of Jewish people if the only Jewish people they ever met hadn’t been soldiers at checkpoints in the 1980s pointing guns at their faces.
That maybe but they’re fully for Israel to the point of doing hasbara for them, and proudly using pragerU videos to do it.
Right right. And sometimes we change names of things because the state of the world is different than it was. Or we don’t.
Stop being so antisemitic!!!
America creates terrorists and profits from it.
Dayum, their website is pro-Israel as F:
https://www.temple-israel.org/israel
https://web.archive.org/web/20260212002400/www.temple-israel.org/israel
Did he do his research to pick the most-closely-affiliated facility with the people who murdered his family he could get to?
No way they put PragerU propaganda videos convincing that Israel is not an apartheid state.
prageru is likely funded by AIPAC/or thier backers.
I often feel conflicted about things like this. On the one hand, I want some consequences for the actions of the country that dropped the bomb. But this church didn’t do that. The religion didn’t do it either. But it was called the temple of Isreal. So it kind of set itself up to be a representation of the country. So there is a window. That said… the attack was on the school, so kids. Thats just no okay no matter what. If anything was on the table it would be the administration maybe. But I have a dislike for administraion in general, so maybe I’m biased there.
Attacking synagogues in the US does nothing whatsoever to the government of Israel, so no reason to feel conflicted. It’s just plain bad.
Government of Israel is not going to the synagogue in the US, but AIPAC is. I’m not endorsing attacking them though.
and thier supporters that arnt directly tied to AIPAC.
Idk man, I really hate what US Christians are doing right now, but I don’t think shooting up a random church is going to fix anything. If this shithead wanted to take out his sorrow on someone, he should have headed to DC to attack someone actually culpable.
No one gave a shit that his family were innocent bystanders. Why should he care that these victims were. The people making the decisions are wrapped in layers of security. These people are why they have the power to make those decisions.
I’m not defending violence, but it does make more sense than you give it credit for. In the end violence will only breed more violence, but when your reason to care is gone, when justice is never coming for the guilty, people will take their vengeance out wherever they can reach.
I’m not defending violence
But you literally are, though.
No, I’m saying it’s rational. I’m not suggesting it’s right. It doesn’t solve anything, killing more people won’t bring his family back and ultimately will only justify more violence. It’s an embrace of nihilism by someone who has nothing left to care about but petty vengeance.
What I’m saying is, if you start from the assumption nothing matters, then it is perfectly reasonable. I reject the premise, but the conclusion is logical for someone who doesn’t. Strip a person of everything that matters to them, and they have no reason not to seek the cold comfort of vengeance against whomever they can access.
It’s quite literally NOT RATIONAL to attack other Innocents for revenge of the death of Innocents.
There is, if it hurts those who are not so innocent.
No.
If you want to hurt the not innocent, then hurt those people directly. Not other Innocents. Anyone who thinks otherwise is human shit.
When a foreign nation drops bombs that kill your family, the proper response is to write a letter to the editor, or perhaps boycott products from the nation that killed everyone you love. I simply can’t understand why this guy didn’t write that letter and announce his boycott. So illogical.
That’s quite the strawman you’ve constructed.
Attacking an American synagogue will only drum up more support for the ongoing genocide and war.
Also, the word “Israel” predates the “State of Israel”. It is also a common first and last name in the Jewish world. “Beth Israel” means “House of Israel” or “Israel House”, its not really grammatically sound so it can go either way.
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The conflict comes because we’re comparing two different forms of evil. All we can really do is observe and take notes for the history books
Just look at the slob front center. Damn
Bro needs a vest that fits
Justified
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Did you roll over and decide to be a piece of shit today, or are you always like this?
Those American children were not responsible for the Israeli governments atrocities.
Difficult to understand perhaps but the dude is right
It is logical. Not a question of deserving at all, nobody stated that. In fact by implying such an emotionally charged veiled accusation during this time of conflict you feel like an agent of some security force to me already, be it conesentual or not.
It’s all about framing and perspective. Zooming in on the individuals will offer perspective from the bottom, but zooming out to your shared responsibilities as a community within your own political climate I am personally surprised not more blood has been shed years ago already
Wtf are you babbling about?
He said : “wish they had succeeded”…in reference to someone attempting to bomb a fucking religious building full of children. There was nothing else. No “hard to understand”. It was purely violent shittiness. There’s no framing or perspective that makes that suddenly okay. There’s no logic there at all.
The guy wished children had died. And you’re trying to defend him. So fuck you too.
Didn’t the US just blow up a school with 160 kids in it? I don’t want to see people die and shit, but this could have been a factor for this attack.
No one who says that it’s okay to kill Innocents as revenge for the deaths of other Innocents, is worth listening. They are scum.
not a justification, just a possible partial explanation.
I thought we were still referencing GreenBeard @lemmy.ca there, might have been smart to not say “the guy” in my comment
You have every right to be angry, I am too
You need to learn how threads work. This was a top level comment I replied to. Whoever you’re talking about is not even in this particular discussion
I know how threads work. I’m coming off a harsh week and my brain is foggy. You need to know when to concede and stop being contrarian.
Me too though. I get emotional and swear and people get scared and go back into their bubbles
Why is there not mass riots in many countries ffs
I’m not being contrarian, you walked into the wrong conversation and decided to scold me like some pretentious dickbag despite being the one in the wrong. Take your own unsolicited advice
Oh fuck you
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