A party that built its message around a strong, firm, and unequivocal case to end this war now would very suddenly draw attention to the undoubtedly dozens of congressional Democrats who would not echo this line. So what we get instead is limp process critiques, demanding pointless hearings, and bizarre attacks that Trump is not doing regime change fast enough. Polls repeatedly show the most common criticism of Democrats is not that they are too far left or too anti-war, but that they are too weak, that they don’t stand for anything.
Centering criticism of a deeply unpopular war on those carrying it out for not filling out the right paperwork or producing a satisfactory slideshow — rather than making clear, normative objections to a war of aggression — feeds directly into this perception. But perhaps it’s a perception Democratic leaders, and the pro-war, pro-Israel donors who fund their political careers, would prefer over the alternative.
Well, to be honest, there’s no reason to waste your breath asking to end it until that election comes up this November. And hopefully we can flip Senate and house.
I doubt there will be an election in Nov. trump & co. couldn’t be telegraphing their punches any more than they already are…
- Start a boondoggle of a war with Iran.
- Spread speculation that Iran will retaliate against the US on American soil.
- Launch a false flag attack on a predominantly blue state in the months leading up to the elections, blame Iran to garner support for ongoing maga “leadership.”
- Postpone the elections indefinitely in the aftermath of the “attack.”
Of course, I don’t 100% believe this is the case, but I would not be surprised if it happened. They really are that inept and corrupt.
They are going to try their damnedest, I’m sure of that. But the logistical feat of actually denying all Americans their chance to vote is beyond their means. They will, at best, disrupt voting where they will see the greatest impact. States will conduct their elections as usual. Only Congress has the power to decide the timing of elections. I don’t see them passing any new laws. No state depends on the federal government to carry out their electoral duties (so far).
After that, we get to see what kind of obstructive bullshit they have planned to keep elected officials from serving if they don’t want them to. I don’t know what they could do aside from force another shutdown, aside from outright physical violence, which is entirely likely but it still raises the questions of ‘by what means’ and ‘is that feasible’. If we were going to see political assassinations on a large scale, I imagine we would have passed that point by now.
It’s because this message isn’t for the Dem base, it’s for the Republican base. They stand to lose more votes than Dems have to gain with an opposition message. That’s where the momentum is right now.
The Democrats have been controlled opposition at best. After Bernie’s fixed primary, then Kamala’s fixed primary, Democrat voters just think it was an accident. It wasn’t they failed intentionally to unleash the Epstein war machine.
Dems are in Israel’s pocket as well.
This ain’t a lie. Nope, uh uh, no way, or whatevs U say. It is a fact. Not a fringe thing at all really.
So, I get that you’re trying to be sarcastic or whatever, but you should know that AIPAC spending is public knowledge. So not only is it true that most dems are in Israel’s pocket, it is also very far from a fringe belief at this point.
The uniparty has never been less deniable.
The only way these factions maintain control over the U.S. government is through maintaining “full spectrum dominance”. Once that ends, the turmoil turns inward and the country rips itself apart.
Iran is the lynchpin.
Because not only the donors but a big part of the Dem’s base, even here on lemmy that is an outlier, are pro-war.
Democrats say he has no plan because at a fundamental level, leadership supports most of the policies that Trump pursues.
Its not a question of the relevancy of Democrats or Trump’s ego: Its that both parties accept and operate to support the same corporate, zionist, fascist donor base.
Its why you weren’t permitted an anti-genocide candidate in 2024: Because it wasn’t in the donor classes interests. Its why they convinced Democrats to hold onto Biden as a candidate long as they did. Its party of why Harris was effectively “selected” as the nominee instead of running a real primary (for example, as Jon Stewart had suggested). Its why Harris ran on a campaign of “Nothing would fundamentally change”, while as an administration, having sold out both progressives and the BLM movement as a voting block in the period of 2021-2024. Democratic voters have been voting against their own interests, just like Republican voters, for decades.
There is no future or path to a better future through the traditional pathways to power in the Democratic party as it currently exists. Its structurally not possible. And this inability to adjust to an electorate with significantly different priorities than those who control power within the party is a constant headwind: By constantly being on the wrong sides of issues, like they are today, Democrats damage their ability to win elections.
For leadership, this isn’t a problem: They still get the policies they desire. For the electorate, or people running for office who want to change the Democratic party to one people actually want to vote for, this is a huge problem.
The dems and the republicans are not the same party. But when it comes to American imperialism, they are both on the same side. Democrats and republicans are not the same. Regarding the imperialism, see for example how Biden and Obama handled Israel (60B in military aid). The democrats and republicans are not the same. See also Kamala Harris’ DNC speech where she promised she would ensure America has the most lethal fighting force in the world. Anyone who thinks the democrats are the peace party is a fool. The two parties are not the same though, there is more to policy than foreign policy.
Inb4 “Oh so you think they’re the same?”
Legally, the Dems hands are tied so all they can do is chirp. Regardless, the US is a two-headed beast and currently the beast is wearing it’s republican face.
This is weak. The Dems have no control over what the Commander in Chief does. Nobody cares what their war plans are.
I agree that many Dems have weak values, though.
Because Netanyahu or his AI clone have Jeffery’s original tapes of Donica
Now Trump is even begging former allies to help USA in the Hormuz strait. Maybe he should have thought of that, before threatening to invade allied nations, and starting trade wars with everybody, and threatening to abandon NATO, and completely fail to help Ukraine against Russia that is a common enemy to Europe and USA, but not to Trump because Trump is somehow compromised and a traitor to USA and democracy.
To say Trump has no plan is to put it mildly. Trump had a plan originally, and that plan is so simplistic only a child could conceive it.
The plan was that Iran should surrender or collapse quickly!
Yes that’s right, that was the entire plan! As stupid as that sounds. And when that didn’t happen, they were completely unprepared for anything else. Trump had the typical simple minded bully mentality, to sucker-punch Iran, with the expectation that they would give in immediately.
Instead we are seeing Trump once again dramatically increasing the speed of the demise of the American empire, just as he did with the above mentioned behavior, threatening allies and waging trade wars against everybody.
As Trump stated: “I guess our relations aren’t what they used to be.”
Your goddam right they aren’t. And just to be clear to the Americans, this is not just about Trump, it’s the entire administration. And the fact that the American population elected Trump twice, means we don’t trust the population either anymore.
To say Trump should end the war does nothing. At least not unless he is given some sort of out where he can save face. But that does not appear to be available that I can see. So as a result, he may just as likely try to put boots on the ground. And if he does that, he will 100% sure only embarrass himself and USA further. Because Iran is way way more difficult than Afghanistan, In Afghanistan there was a government somewhat in power that supported the allied forces. AND there were actually allied forces, which there won’t be in Iran. And finally Iran is a 10 times harder nut to crack, because it has more than twice the population and area, and it has way better organized and equipped troops for guerrilla war. With more an better places to hide.
the fact that the American population elected Trump twice, means we don’t trust the population either anymore
I don’t trust us any more, why the fuck should you? Idiots have taken over my homeland and I’m here to fight them until they are gone. But I’m one person and I can’t make promises for my whole nation. We are not to be trusted until we have a system to ensure this never happens again.
Sorry.
There are a lot of good Americans, and also exceptional Americans, unfortunately you are a minority.
And to be frank, it seems the American population isn’t learning, because if they did, they wouldn’t have elected Trump after electing Bush twice.
Bush was bad and extremely unpopular, yet Trump who is clearly worse than Bush on every single point was still elected twice too.
I mean, what does it look like to “end the war”. Even if they voted to end it, you can’t unilaterally stop it, the time to stop it was before Trump started the war, now it can only end through a deal with Iran.
Why isn’t there a deal yet anyway? After all Trump is the best dealmaker that has ever existed. He’s been making deals his whole life, and they were great, beautiful, amazing deals. The Iranians will really fall in line facing the best, amazing dealmaker in the world.
This is one of the more profoundly well-put summaries I’ve ever read on the Internet.
Maybe because we hate Iran just as much as the right
