My mom quit Game of Thrones because they killed the dog in the first episode
Same for me, except in Kung Pow.
L’s Death in DeathNote. Near was cool and all, but the entire story after L dies felt like an epilogue rather than a continuation of the plot.
I stopped reading the manga after L died, and decided to never even start watching the anime. Death Note without L was just worthless to me.
I could be wrong, but I remember reading that it was the original ending, but someone didn’t like Light winning, so they added the other two characters to beat Light.
Joel’s death in The Last of Us. It was a bad idea in the second game and it had the same effect on the show.
But bastard deserved it.
Yeah, he was a piece of shit.
Ragnar in Vikings. None of his sons had the same charisma and the show just fell flat to me. I still try to finish the show from time time but I still haven’t managed to.
I felt like Ubbe had a lot of charisma, and Ivar had potential if they hadn’t written him like Ramsey Snow. He should have been smart, unpredictable and morally grey, not a complete psychopath.
Not a show, but a movie spin-off. When they killed Wash in Serenity. I knew I wasn’t going to like it as much as the tv shows.
If they meant for that death to hurt a lot, it worked.
Wash and Sheppard both, man. 💔
Reaver Cleaning Company: putting spears through the Wash since 2005!
I’m a leaf on the wind.
I put off watching the last season of DS9 for a while, after they killed off Jadzia Dax in a really forced way. The worst part was that there was another episode that season where she almost died and it would’ve been a much more personal and appropriate way for her to go, but instead she’s randomly at the wrong place when the big bad shows up doing main plot stuff and that’s it. It was incredibly disappointing. Apparently there was some drama with contract shenanigans behind the scenes, so they ended up having to write it in last minute.
I did eventually come back and watch the last season and I’m glad I did, but I legit almost dropped it.
Sweets in bones. I hated him when he showed up. Then he won me over and then he’s gone :(
Glen in the walking dead. I was already on the posts during the governor arch. But Glenn fucking broke me.
Hard same. Then they immediately killed Abraham after, literally murdered every reason I had for watching that show.
Not only were they the best characters, they were the only good actors throughout all of the main cast.
I honestly think Abraham hurt way more now that I’m thinking about it. Cause I identified with homie! I’m huge, fairly strong, but went bald early. Sorry about waxing nostalgic, but I had almost forgot about homie until now.
L from Death Note.
Kinda got boring for the other half, although Near-Mellow was okay after a while.
Woodhouse and then Malory in Archer. i actually really enjoyed the coma seasons, but they’re damn good proof that you can’t come back home after you jump the shark.
You do know that both of the actors that played those characters died in real life, right?
yes, but that didn’t force the showrunners to paint themselves into a corner and then try to walk through the fresh paint as though everything was normal.
When Mulder went away to wherever he went in later seasons of X-Files.
There were a lot of questionably sadistic choices made by the producers in Game of Thrones, but when the >!orphans!< were strung up burned to death I said to my parter ‘ok that’s last warning. The show isn’t good enough to endure this crap’.
Then the red wedding happened next season and it was full of sadism - unsuspecting soldiers gruesomely and gleefully murdered by their comrades, >!foetus stabbed in the womb!<.
And that was the last Game of Thrones episode I watched. I don’t have any desire to revisit it.
A fantastic production in every other sense, ruined by extreme sadism at every corner.
To be fair, both of these things happened in the books. Except the Red Wedding with regards to Talisa/Jeyne, but everything else happened. They were following it.
Oh I’m not implying they didn’t happen in the books. But there’s a significant experiential difference between the written word and having it dramatically filmed, expertly recreated with special effects, centre-framed and shots lingered upon.
The showrunners revelled in the sadism and sexual sadism way too much for my tastes.
How would you depict a world as low and as violent as ASOIAF without doing that for specific plot moments like that though?
Just one example?
The baby being slaughtered by the queens guards (illegitimate offspring of the king) in the first season is a perfect example.
Harsh. Immoral. Brutal. Gets everything it needs to explain across to the viewer and does it all off camera.
Shots can also be partial or glimpses instead of lingering and detailed (like the young prince’s sexual-sadistic murder of the kind-hearted brothel girl).
Whole series is a sadists wet dream.
Just wanted to say I’ve felt the exact same way about violence in movies/shows too. It’s not that I want it removed, it’s that it must matter to the plot. Not just be a prop for fan service.
You do a better job of explaining it
To be fair, we didn’t literally see the kids that Theon’s henchmen killed being killed. Only their charred bodies.
Shots can also be partial or glimpses instead of lingering and detailed (like the young prince’s sexual-sadistic murder of the kind-hearted brothel girl).
I don’t see why you find that somehow more acceptable than the charred kids that Theon killed in the way the show presented it.
I don’t, I was giving another example of a lingering and detailed shot that didn’t need to be to serve the story. Maybe I could’ve been clearer.
No, I thought you pinpointed them as acceptable ways to portray brutality in a world like GOT
Out of interest, do you think people who enjoy slasher/gore-horror shows/films are sadistic? Or that people who write them are?
Like a webcomic I once read is Crossed. Have you heard of it? It’s incredibly violent and could never be a TV show. It’s about a zombie-type virus that makes people into psychopathic, deranged killers. The sign of infection of a rash in the shape of a cross on their faces (although its also very quick, like in 28 days later).
you sound like the kind of person who enjoys laugh tracks
- Curious question to drive discussion.
- Earnest response.
- Earnest follow-up query.
- Earnest response.
- Some random chimes in with an insult.
Comments like yours are one reason Lemmy is growing so slowly.
Gonna do my part and block your existence from my feed.
Shayla from Mr. Robot. I just lover her so much for some reason.
for real, but did you actually didn’t finsig the show?
Hemmer on Strange New Worlds.
This one really sucked, to me. There’s so much more they could have done with the character!
It was nice to learn, from an interview with the actor, that he intentionally signed only a one season contract, and was a big fan of the story that wrote Hemmer out.
He didn’t say why, but I know many actors regret the time in the make-up chair, required to play an interesting alien.
Jimmy in boardwalk empire. After that it was like, what, I’m gonna keep watching just to see what the guy who obtains kids for rich pedophiles is gonna do next? Nah, I love Steve Buscemi in serious roles but I lost interest after Jimmy finished his Oedipus arch.
