When I was in the third grade, I had a teacher tell me it was okay we pushed the natives off the land because we made more efficient use of it, and could therefore carry a greater population.
In the previous grade the teacher passed around a worksheet, and we had to choose which jobs were most suited to what gender.
Oh what a glorious whitebread bublefuck town I grew up in!
my mom didn’t want me playing pokemon because it “taught evolution”
Same, lol
This idea made it to the netherlands as well
My second grade teacher taught us the civil war was because of a disagreement over state’s rights.
The same teacher marked me and a few other students down for completing a subtraction assignment using negative numbers. She explained we were supposed to be confused and write that we couldn’t do it.
Edit: I forgot one! My third grade teacher marked me down for not knowing how much a hen weighed. It wasn’t a joke. Apparently there was a rule of thumb for estimating chicken weight. Any kids who weren’t raised on a farm missed the question.
we were supposed to be confused and write that we couldn’t do it.
Is this a US specific thing? In our schools, they taught us stuff, then took a test to see how much of it got inside our head. I can’t imagine a test having a question about a topic which is not taught yet. It feels like straight up bullying by the system. We send kids to school to learn things, not to get bullied for not knowing things they haven’t even been taught yet.
I was raised in an exceedingly rural area of an already rural state. My school district was rated amongst the worst in the nation, so my experience was more indicative of the worst 1980s US had to offer. It was bad then, but not usually that bad.
I remember in 7th grade social studies (on the edge of the SF bay area in the 90s for crab godssake) we had to do a little assignment where we made up pros and cons of slavery.
the pros i made up were absolute bullshit “uh maybe the technology was better in the states than africa so even with slavery quality of life improved? that doesn’t sound right but maybe i don’t know” racist fucking ass shit turd bull fuck assignment.
sorry i’m like 10 years behind on my swears i got some catching up to do
I’m sorry, I’m really sorry, but pros to slavery?? jfc.
yeah like can you help me think up some swears i’m really tired comrade
Jizztrap. Fuck-wit, -stick, -stain. Frozen tampon popsicle Barbara Streisand!
I think what kids were supposed to write was about all the shareholder value that was beautifully created by extorting everything from everyone they could reach
What the hell? Didn’t that teacher got fired or anything?
Most likely that teacher is the wife of the pastor or sister of the mayor or some shit and thus invulnerable
Lol that teacher was pretty much par for the course as far as rural 90’s education goes.
I feel bad that I wore the free D.A.R.E. propaganda shirts in school because my family was too poor to get me decent clothing.
I know a lot of adults that wore them ironically, so maybe you were just ahead of your time.
Naw. Wear that shit with pride, then take a Snoop-level rip from a bong.
Don’t.
Don’t feel bad for doing it out of necessity.
Nah, they gave you free clothes. 🙂
Just think of it as cop-averting camo.
Drugs ARE Really Expensive, though. So, is it propaganda, or truth in advertising…? 🤔
I stopped saying the Pledge of Allegiance because I was hyperfixated on the Eragon books and it seemed too similar to swearing loyalty to Galbatorix.
it’s literal brainwashing. Americans laugh at the NK people having to praise Dear Daddy, but then every morning in school, they cite the pledge of allegiance. Why would you want to be allied with one of the worst countries in modern history? Fuck that.
What happens in North Korea if they refuse to do something like the pledge?
What happens in America tomorrow if we refuse to say the pledge?
Tomorrow? Like Monday? Nothing happens if kids refuse to say the pledge of allegiance in America on Monday. They just don’t say it.
That depends entirely on state and even on individual teachers in those states
There’s always tomorrow.
You’re pretending that America can’t be turned into a place with similarities to N. Korea, when the wealthy and powerful are clearly trying to steer us that direction. Yes, it’s perfectly valid to draw such comparisons, especially when we are using them as a warning for ourselves.
You’re pretending I’m pretending that. Don’t be that guy.
You’re asking this as if any information we have about NK is anything but US and SK propaganda lol
I had such high hopes for dbzer0, but it’s just another .ml.
Honestly? Mission accomplished
Same, except I read Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli. She seemed to have the right idea about a lot of things. Eragon definitely solidified it.
I had forgotten about that, it was such a surreal book.
Most propaganda is aimed at neurotypical wiring. We are out of tune with it, that gives us a measure of protection.
It’s one of the worries I have with AI. While I think we are more protected from propaganda than most (since we constantly want to poke at the crack in a story), we are not immune. It’s perfectly possible to shape it to effect us. They just haven’t bothered, since we are a small target. AI makes that a lot easier to do, so we will see more of it.
considering how certain people seem to get to the point of psychosis from llm usage, i dread the day the corporations start utilizing this fully. it would probably be possible to completely brainwash someone vulnerable to do ANYTHING with llm as long as they are receptive to it.
So that’s why my fifth grade teacher hated me. Because I was too smart for her lazy bullshit lessons. 😂
Did anyone else ace the assignments without paying any attention to the lectures?
In 8th grade i would spend a lot of class on my phone by hiding it in my desk. I was still one of the only people to regularly participate in class and was a straight A student until uni.
There was one instance where another srudent ratted me out for using my phone. He had tried to rat me out multiple times before but i usually stuck it in a book or folder. This time he called me out for doing so, so the teacher ended up taking my phone. School policy was that she would have to turn it over to the principal and my parents would have to pick it up. The teacher was a 60+ year old former nun and I had strict parents so i was not looking forward to it. When we went out to lunch the teacher called me over and told me to wait for a second. She handed me my phone back and told me not to get caught again.
She never checked my desk for my phone again and I continued to be one of the only people who raised my hand.
Aw what a nice teacher! I was in school way before smart phones came out. I definitely would have used one during class. 😂
It was a small Catholic school in a big city and the student population was a majority middle-class white kids; that is to say that despite being the weird nerdy queer brown kid I was one of the best behaved, had some of the best grades, consistently output high quality work (even when bullshitting it), and participated in all my classes including religion despite being an outspoken atheist. Most of my teachers loved me and gave me a lot of leniency because even at my worst I was still leagues ahead typically. It also helped that my mom was very involved and made it known if i was causing trouble that they could call her and she’d sort it out quickly, so if i ever was actually out of line they knew it wouldn’t last long.
Yeah, they repeated so much to the normies I never did any studying and only barely paid attention in class and aced all the tests. Then I went to college where I might have a class every other days and realized I had no idea how to study. doh.
Yeah. It’s one of the reasons I wasn’t diagnosed until my 30s.
Constantly in highschool. If you count a lazy 85% without really lifting a finger as “acing,” that is.
God it’s funny when your brain not working right accidentally prevents certain issues. I’m immune to getting addicted to MMOs, my brain can’t handle the slow dopamine distribution.
Working harder and grinding more should mean more levels and cool gear faster.
In reality, the harder you work the slower the dopamine, and then I dip.
Unless it’s RuneScape, which offers a wealth of extremely repetitive tasks!
I’m not trying to talk down or condescend, so please accept this at the face value it is intended with: I suggest it’s critical thinking that’s saved you.
my hyperfocus (i’m not adhd, i just love my adhd peeps) did because i paid too much attention and pointed out the gaps to my favorite history teacher in high school (after class, i’m not an asshole. well, not an asshole all the time). first month he gave me the book “lies my teacher told me” with the note “Good! Keep thinking critically about what you are learning! This book too!” or something like that, it’s in a box somewhere (i don’t have room to unpack my entire library here, i’ve got 2 bookshelves of books waiting to be unpacked).
I was fortunate my social studies teachers weren’t propagandizing, they straight up said the government lied to pursue some wars such as the one in Vietnam
it was the textbook we were required to use and the difference between that and what we were learning in class. I was noticing the gap.
ADHD is the true anarchist spirit.
Same with Autism, I will hyperfixate Rome, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany and I will call out the similarities between them and the United States. I also got into a verbal fight with some kid in middle school because I wasn’t going to play nice with his creationism BS unlike the teacher who danced around it, the only reason he didn’t attack me was because I would probably throw him around like a ragdoll.
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Uh huh 🙄
I mean it’s certainly maladaptive in terms of being “successful” when you’re forced to play this IRL board game of Monopoly where luck, caste systems, sociopathy, and ass kissing your way to the top are better predictors of “success” than talent/skill based merit.
But idk, maybe the world being on fire is due to an unintended bug that pops up every once in a while, not a feature 🙄
It’s ignorant and arrogant. Repeat a lie often enough something
If propaganda worked on everyone, why is there anyone trying to counter it?
Because we learn
See also: aphantasia!
Not visualizing myself with or for a product has likely helped a ton.
My 3rd grader informed us in 1st grade that he opted to not participate in the pledge of allegiance (does so respectfully) because we have discussed how the US doesn’t take care of people (his words). He was even more frustrated when a substitute kept going on about how we’re the greatest country in the world and have all these freedoms.
oof, only propaganda i remember from school in finland was about milk consumption(in favour). they even put posters about it to classrooms. I suppose it didnt bite into me that hard since i often forget to use milk carton before it rots and dont even buy milk that often because of it.
