• FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    Free Trade with the US is coming to an end, we should never have integrated with the US as much as we did, but now we need to suck it up and pivot hard. Build sovereign control, from top to bottom, soup to nuts, servers, enterprise, banking, investment, supply chains, defense, everything that gives the US or any other hostile entity leverage over us.

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      Came here to ask the same thing… I don’t get it, there’s literally nothing there but headlines

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        11 hours ago

        This is what I see:

        OTTAWA — The United States has flagged Canada’s early interest in a sovereign cloud that would bar foreign governments from accessing data without consent as a potential trade irritant.

        U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer included it among several procurement issues in the annual report on foreign trade barriers he submitted Tuesday to U.S. Congress and President Donald Trump.

        As always, Canada’s tightly controlled dairy market got a mention. So did the Online Streaming Act and the Online News Act, which Greer has flagged as priorities for the coming review of the North American trade pact. The federal government’s Buy Canadian policy for contracts over $25 million is a new one this year, as are moves by some provinces to keep U.S. alcohol out of liquor stores. The long wait for regulatory approval of aircraft and a proposed change to the disclosure rules regarding fragrance allergens in cosmetics also debuted on this year’s list. Gabriel Brunet, a spokesperson for Canada-U.S. Trade Minister Dominic LeBlanc, said the government’s trade team is reviewing the report.

        On the sovereign cloud, the report cites an August 2025 “request for information” by Shared Services Canada, the federal government’s central information technology agency, asking Canadian suppliers about their ability to provide the federal government with a “fully sovereign public cloud solution.”

        That feedback would then be considered in future procurement policy development, which the agency framed as a response to “emerging challenges relating to digital sovereignty.” Shared Services did not mention the U.S. specifically, but the onset of Trump’s trade war and his threats to annex Canada by “economic force” months earlier had thrust the issue into the spotlight.

        Greer’s report notes the proposal calls for cloud services where data would be “processed, transmitted and stored exclusively in Canada.” It would exclude suppliers subject to laws letting foreign governments access Canada’s data without written consent. (Another requirement Greer did not mention: providers could not be “subject to foreign laws that permit foreign governments to request measures that could affect or discontinue the service.”)

        Shared Services said it was unable to comment in time for publication, but an update to the request for information suggests the conditions highlighted in Greer’s report remain. In its notice, the agency said it had invoked the National Security Exception for all stages of the procurement process for sovereign cloud services. That means nothing in any of Canada’s free trade agreements barring such protectionism would apply.

        There is a difference, though, between exploring the possibility of creating a “fully sovereign public cloud solution” and actually doing it—especially without U.S. tech giants.

        The federal government acknowledged as much last October in its “framework” on digital sovereignty: “It is impossible for the [government of Canada] to obtain a state of complete digital sovereignty, known as digital autonomy, due to the absolute interconnected nature of the digital world.” Manav Gupta, IBM Canada’s chief technology officer, told The Logic last month that the views of Canadian politicians on digital sovereignty had been “maturing.”

        In January 2025, the federal government said it would review its business relationship with Amazon after the e-commerce firm closed its fulfillment centres and sorting facilities in Quebec. As The Logic reported, that review led officials to conclude that Ottawa’s reliance on Amazon Web Services, its second-largest cloud vendor, limited its leverage against the tech giant.

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          Thanks! Not sure if it’s the mobile layout that’s cooked, or maybe it’s paywalled or something? All I see are headlines.

          Greer’s report notes the proposal calls for cloud services where data would be “processed, transmitted and stored exclusively in Canada.” It would exclude suppliers subject to laws letting foreign governments access Canada’s data without written consent. (Another requirement Greer did not mention: providers could not be “subject to foreign laws that permit foreign governments to request measures that could affect or discontinue the service.”)

          Lmao, yeah that’s kind of the point - why would anybody want a foreign country snooping their shit? I suppose if there’s any benefit to breaking this wall it would be that it would (hopefully) force the Canadian government and businesses to ditch Microsoft. The fact we use them as much as we do is terrifying. A contract is only as trustworthy as the person you signed it with, and I have little faith that MS isn’t already snooping the massive amounts of foreign government data they have their hands on.

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      19 hours ago

      Spoiler, bell and rogers already hand over subscriber data by the boatload. How do you think those “we caught you torrenting” emails make it to the “right” people?

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        Studios monitor public torrents, and through legal channels ask warnings to be sent via the ISP to their client at that address. The studio does not receive the customer data

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    I wish it were… the entire thing is going to Microslop with their pinky promise to fight their own gov in court should the orange child molester demand our data

    And this is even AFTER Microslop already admitted in European court that, should such demmand happen, they’d be powerless to deny it

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      As I understand it the EU is giving a big F off to US tech companies and will start doing their own stuff. Canada should do the exact same. Get the big tech giants the boot, I am all for open sourcing the whole government computer stuff.

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        100%… yet we are pretending to do that while giving Microslop all the contracts

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          It is a chicken or the egg thing, people use windows at home so employers and educators use windows at their work places. For the most part at least.

          We need to teach boards of education that they could save money if instead of using windows or chromium they used Linux we could force businesses to adapt to the new people coming into the work force. If we could convince governments to make the switch, we would be that much closer to socialism!

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            I agree with your point but it has nothing to do with the topic here. Nobody storing data in Microslops Azure would see or notice what cloud it is (as a matter of fact most of Azure is Linux)

            The choice of giving Microslop our data to hold and pretend we are building a sovereign cloud is absolutely absurd.

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    Womp womp. The American negotiating team can go cry us a Fraser/Saskatchewan/Niagara/St. Lawrence.