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    The problem is it’s still cheaper for me to fuel my car up with exploding dinosaurs than it is to buy an EV.

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    Today my work friend, who was totally against EV’s said he should have been bought EV, because gas prices are so high now.

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    I remember the last time gas prices went through the roof.

    I was riding my bike with my wife, going to the goshery store. A guy yelled out of his truck. I was like here we go…(im used to harassment on bikes). He said “Yeah! Stick it to em!”

    We were just poor at the time, but it made our day haha.

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      This was my experience this morning. I ride a trike with a big fucking basket in back so i haul a lot of shit around town. It’s mostly pickup dudes who love my trike anyways i’ve discovered, but when i’m hauling shit (like 150 pounds of cat food) they really love it. I get “how much gas are you saving on that” “all of it, it gets me to the next town and back” a lot and it’s a real fun conversation.

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        oh gee whiz golly, I sure do love biking over there to grab some essentials and gab with the group

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      What piece of shit harassed you for riding a bike?
      Edit: I am deeply saddened by the current state of things.

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        In my local city, people die every year getting ran over on a bike. I knew a dr who didnt make it.

        I got close-lined off my bike once around 2017. Its part of the gang initiation to send someone to the hospital. I have a dent in my nose because of it.

        Its MUCH more dangerous in my area than most places though.

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          Maga land folks get very angry if you’re even driving a small car. Been screamed at and almost ran off the road just for existing in a small car. It offends their tiny pp. Or something.

          They REALLY hate bikes. Maybe because while they drive their 8000 lb dually quad cab thats never touched dirt or towed once, and hauls 1 person 99% of the time, they get mad at how efficient you are.

          And I have a truck too. For work. 8 ft box single cab manual with no radio or ac. Hauls construction material and tows trailers. A truck used for real work. Fuck bro trucks.

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            Yup… drove a small car back from college and two truck bros decided it’d be fun to sandwich my car between them. One rode my rear bumper with high beams, the other slowed down and rode the middle line so I couldn’t pass. Then he’d start slamming his brakes.

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              I got furious reading that. I would’ve slammed the brakes and said goodbye to my car at that point. USA hits different man.

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                You’d have said goodbye to your head as well, because that lifted truck isn’t going into the rear of the small car… it’s going up and over.

                Image

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                  All I can say is fuck lobbying and fuck the god awful politicians allowing these small dick energy monstrosities to happen.

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                it’s all fun and games until they pull out the real gun.

                I called the incident into the police station but it was before I had the dashcam so they just shrugged (and were probably blood related anyway).

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                  Cops usually are the same ones driving BRo trucks, or its likely their kids like you said.

                  I do like the box of nails idea though. Keep a flimsy cardboard box of roofing nails in your door pocket for tail gating assholes :)

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                  I just saw a play that has a plot point about how someone gets robbed by some racist, well connected shits, and the police won’t do anything to help. The closest he gets to justice is vigilantism, where he hunts down and shoots 3 of his assailants dead. Only then does anyone start to listen to him, but when he agrees to talk peacefully they shoot him dead.

                  I’m not sure “the only way you’ll get justice is with your own bloody hands” was the author’s intent, but that seems to be the message.

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            These are the people who don’t understand the meaning of Liberal as most lemmy commenters use it. It’s why it’s so dissonant.

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            An old friend was once getting a ride to work in an escalade when a big ole lifted truck did some dick move, so she made a big truck small dick joke. It didn’t land well. When another friend dumped this man, we learned she called him turtle 🐢 due to how turtles can pull their head in.

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        One of my roommates in college had me drive him to buy a bike off of Craigslist so he could get around, he rode it home, and then never touched it again because he got a bunch of drive-by harassment/name-calling, it was really sad.

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        what ? as a bike rider it happens to me quite often, the passenger hanging out the window yelling “get a car ya cheap cunt!” another time, fallen behind my gf for a bit, some dude hangs out the window and slaps her ass as they pass

        Am Australian though.

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        One time someone shouted at me from their truck that they didn’t like my shirt. It wasn’t a sports shirt and didn’t have any logos at all. I think it was just baggier than they liked.

        Sometimes people just dont like things being different.

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        Seriously? I get yelled at at least once every time I ride. People have thrown drinks at me, spit at me numerous times (though their aim is generally very poor)

        I’ve even been run off the road a few times, intentionally (they admitted it after I caught up with them at the next light and confronted them)

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      I wish riding a bike (even an e-bike) was even close to an option for me. It is not. I am stuck in the loop of needing a car, which keeps me needing a car indefinitely.

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    The high gas prices may have added fuel to the fire, but the best news here is that used EVs are growing in popularity. That is a consequence of us finding out batteries don’t degrade as fast as we first imagined, which makes used EVs a lot more interesting.

    In the short term, that kills the market for new EVs, since used ones were so dirt cheap. In the long run, the resale value of new EVs will be much more stable, eliminating the last downside they had.

    (Obviously, many car makers saw the short term pain and gave up on the entire market. That is of course because car maker CEOs are absolutely brilliant people with foresight and strategic thinking. Just kidding: they occupy the only category of jobs that should absolutely be replaced by AI.)

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      I hope more people try it because hot damn, I love having an EV. We got a gently used Bolt last year and it’s exceeded my expectations in every way. It’s quick and QUIET inside and so far we haven’t had the need to go beyond a regular old wall socket 120V charger (we mostly just drive in-town). But wow I love driving it and never stopping to gas it or even change the oil. It’s such a simple and satisfying experience.

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      There really was a huge increase in the number of EV models available between model years 2018 and 2023.

      So now, when you’re looking to buy a 3-year-old car, you have so many more EV options to choose from even compared to just 2 years ago.

      You can choose different form factors (small cars, sedans, wagon/crossover/small SUVs, medium SUVs, literal pickup trucks), and basically any price tier from economy to ultra luxury high end.

      Not every ecological niche was filled in the past 5 years, and some still need a bit more competition, but even with some pullback over the last year there are still plenty of new EVs hitting new categories (e.g., true three-row SUVs and minivans) that will feed into tomorrow’s used market.

      And not every model will survive. The future of all-electric full size pickups looks pretty grim. Some entire companies might not survive the EV transition (looking at you, Honda). But overall, the used market will fill out with what was hitting the new market 5-10 years ago, and we’ll start to see a lot of consumer preferences start showing what the future of cars will look like.

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    OK, I was having this discussion with the wife. What’s a good used EV in North America, 5-10 years old. Preferably without a bunch of electronic shit and definitely not a Tesla?

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      Chevy Bolt

      Cheap, reliable, not the ugliest EV in the world. They’re under appreciated right now so a fully loaded model with low miles goes for about $10K.

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    The timing is unfortunate… I’d like to buy a used EV, and I’ve seen a few I like on carvana with very low miles for cheap… but I’ve been living in an apartment and would have no place to change it… Now I’m buying a house with (among many other things) a 240v outlet in the garage specifically for changing an EV… But it’s going to be a couple weeks, and those used EVs are dwindling…

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      You can get by on public fast chargers for the interim. 120V is also more viable than I expected. I was all ready to install a 240 line for a charger when we bought our EV but a year later we haven’t actually needed to yet. No long commute in our household, so 🤷‍♂️BTW we did exactly what you described: bought a very low-miles used Bolt on Carvana.

      Take the plunge if you want to.

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        Had a Nissan Leaf few years. Never needed a 240v. On the standard 120v charger it gained about 5 miles every hour it was plugged in. Most every day it was in my driveway for 12+ hours so even when it was super close to dead, after dinner and sleeping it’d be up to 60ish miles of charge. My commute was 22 miles round trip, so it was almost always fully charged in the AM, and I was able (but it was a pita to run the cable) to charge it at my office on 120v as well in case it was ever a real problem.

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        In the US

        FTFY. The long term outcome for this is that the world stops revolving around the US. For better or for worse

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          When batteries one day gets lighter in weight, we might see hybrid planes at scale. Or even full electric for smaller flights.

          Then oil is really about to get abundant in some parts of the world.

          It’s already happening with cargo ships and trains. (Yes, I know they are much easier to transition to electric than planes)

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        For everything the Trump administration has done to make solar and wind power less economically feasible, it turns out his war in Iran has done way more to make fossil fuel consumption less economically feasible as well.

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        No he isn’t. He is putting a few brakes on in places but there are too many ecconomic tail winds and so green energy is being added despite his efforts. There are only a few places his position even has power, most green energy is a state permit only.

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      Can we yet call the discovery of fusion a “thing that happened to energy?” ;D

      It’s getting there, I suppose!

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      God how I miss living in an urban area. Until two years ago, I’d bike with my kids to their school every day. Where we are now, it’s 10 miles of deathtrap pavement away. ☹️ I wouldn’t feel comfortable riding most of it on my own, let alone with my kids.

      Fuck cars. Quality of life is so much higher when you don’t have to depend on them.

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        That’s rough. My place isn’t super bikable but it’s good enough and I made getting a place and a job close together a priority because I didn’t want to spend huge chunks of my life trapped in traffic.

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        E-bikes can really make long distances doable without having to take a shower by the time you get there, but not every place has infrastructure that will support that commute in a survivable way.

        If you can pull off living close to work, that’s huge too, but it’s not always an option unfortunately.

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    Guy randomly stopped me to ask me how I like my Model 3 when I was getting out of it in a parking lot last week. First time that’s happened in like 6 years.