Help me Step Big Brother! I’m stuck with my government in my bedroom!
I may be stateside but i’m still amazed that a party that’s supposed to be truly left-leaning is putting out alt-right policies in the U.K.
It bugs me sometimes that Labour gets to claim it’s centre-left when it so consistently is fascist.
You’re diluting the term fascist.
am i? they implement draconian mass surveilance measures, reinforce racism, and tolerate a shocking degree of transphobia. when i look at the things the labour party has done in my life, i see a littany right-wing populist actions that undermine left-wing populist movements. if we use the definition of fascism that fascism is right-wing populism undercutting left-wing populism, i find it hard to see Labour as something other than the slick clean wide smiling acceptable version of Britain’s Ur-Fascism spearheaded by the Conservative and Union Party
Yes, you are. If you go purely on definitions and comparisons to actual fascism, you’re wide off the mark. But sure, “vibes” is where we are these days with reasoning.
Oi bruv where’s yer wanking loicense?!
Not yer bruv, mate - I’m yer step-bruv! Fancy a shag?
What are you doing, step-bruv?!
This is against the law, y’all. :(
The Ministry of Justice said that possessing and publishing porn showing incest between family members and sex between step or foster relatives where one person pretends to be under-18 would be a crime.
So it’s only a crime if they pretend to be under-18, and I haven’t seen any porno where anyone pretends to be under-18. There’s literally a category called barely 18. No one ever pretends to be under, but they do pretend to be barely-18.
Jess Asato, the Labour MP for Lowestoft, said: ‘After many years of campaigning to ensure online pornographic content is subject to the same rules as offline content,
When the fuck was under-18 porn ever legal? WTF? Also, isn’t the age of consent in the UK 16 years old?
What the fuck is the point of this? Why the fuck is it needed? Who is it helping? What is it fixing? NOTHING.
Fucking jokers… Go tax the billionaires and fix the NHS and the cost of the living crisis you cunts .
The thing is they really don’t have grounds to ban “step” porn, but this will make their supporters think “he is going after them gross porn people” while downloading a VPN. It might have a chilling effect on porn producers, for a few minutes, but unless your porn had an actor explicitly state “I’m under 18” you are probably ok. I know this is UK based but the whole point of the law " act cool for my voters" is pretty universal.
If you read further you see this, though:
“Step-incest pornography and that which depicts performers as children is abhorrent”
So it’s not just if they pretend to be under 18. I think. I don’t know. I don’t think they know either. I think they’re trying to score cheap political points.
Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they’re just doing shit all the time
Hopefully the Green party can save UK
The Greens are anti nuclear nimbys, they would plunge the UK into even further trouble especially with their lala land economics. Their immigration policy is also troubling as in the world we currently live in near open borders would collapse the welfare system the UK currently has & also furthers brain drain from poorer countries.
(I am not against immigration in principle but their stated policy on the matter is absolutely nuts, Marx wrote about how we should invest in the global south and help them up to better living standards, not decemate their domestic talent pool.)
Tounchosukd check out https://greensfornuclear.energy/
They propose changing green party policy on energy to be more practical than idealist.
When the green party is a minor party, being idealistic is more important. It helps to guide the policy of bigger parties to prevent losing votes to them. When they are bigger or wish to be involved in government, practical reasonable policy is more important.
Regarding immigration, open borders can be the final ideal and that can be in a phased way. There is no problem with higher immigration if there are the resources to deal with it. In fact its a benefit for the host country and the immigrant, usually. Most economic migrants come seeking work not handouts. Most economic migrants work the jobs that locals don’t want to work. It does have a downward effect on wages, though.
Like everything, gradual change to ideal policy is usually the best way forwards.
Thats nice but until their MPs stop trying to block vital infrastructure & continue to complain about nuclear projects ill never vote for them. Their current policy and actions are something that mean I will never vote for them unless its explicitly changed, which a campaign group doesnt satisfy.
That’s fair but when tories are awful for generations, Labor are centre right at this point and lib Dems are useless and trust evaporates instantly, it limits your options.
Luckily I can vote SNP.
That’s cloae enough to green and policies for the people, not the powerful for me. Only issue I have isbthatbforba party that wanted independence, thrybseemed to have no actual plan after the referendum. What would happen to pensions, government services, national insurance contributions etc. Now they won’t get a vote for years again and that’s after brecit, which was a reason to stay. There’s idealism and there’s competency!
How’s Hinkley Point C coming along? Awesome nuclear technology, such cheap and clean energy, much wow.
Like it or not, but not going nuclear is the economically sound decision these days.
And
I am not against immigration, but…
Hear, hear! How much stereotype is allowed in one comment?
It seems Labour is trying to speed run a Reform government.
Not a chance, sadly.
As always, the first computers you should check when anyone tries to ban consensual porn that harms no one, are the computers of the ones proposing the ban.
Is it a crime to fuck your step sister and step mother?
Not in the UK, according to the article
You’re not blood-related, and I can’t see how a meaningless title could make it illegal.
Banning porn where the actors pretend that what they’re doing is almost illegal is wild. What’s next, prison time if they say that one of the participants is just over the age of consent?
Nah, I want to know when they finally ban the really vile stuff. You know, all those murders on the screen in, oh I don’t know, 70% of all fictional works?
That they seriously consider step porn as worse than murder shows that it is all about control and not about morals.
Talking about banning porn is just outrage porn for those for and against it. The point is to drive home surveillance state and most importantly drive discussion away from things that actually matter and the people in power desperately want people not to talk about or take notice. Modern liberal politics is very much an art of pretending to do something when actually doing nothing and just acting as the guarddog of even decaying society that has been politically hermetically sealed for the benefit of the top 1% funder class.
They need to have some violence in media, how else would you recruit tomorrows policemen and soldiers.
dont you mean brownosers and cannon fodder. also add in a little, degrading education standards, and funding helps.
That they seriously consider step porn as worse than murder shows that it is all about control and not about morals.
No, it shows their morals are different than yours (and mine).
Britain + Some early 20s girl shouts “I want you daddy!” to some late 20s guy = Jail!
The Coalition of the Geriatrically Sexless proclaim the following:
obviously banning fictional depictions of attempted murder
STRAIGHT to jail.
masturbation in porn to be made illegal, or jerking people off.
tackling this vile content will make our country a safer place for women
Doubt.
Generally, the effect of all the “for children” laws and parties etc is exactly the opposite.
Obviously the best thing the UK government can do to protect women is
a mass purge of the corrupt justice system that let rape cases go entirely uninvestigated for at least a decadeban stepbrother incest porn.
The most interesting thing about this is the fact that step siblings can have legal relationships and even marry under UK law, but depictions of their very legal sex lives are now illegal.
I think someone might challenge this as a human right to expression infringement.
For instance, you and your partner happen to be step siblings, but want to generate income on onlyfans. Now you can’t. Not because you are defacto doing anything illegal.
Also, and here’s where it gets fun…
Imagine you and your partner do make sexy videos but then your respective parents hook up.
The videos were made when you were not step siblings, but now you are.
Where does the law stand there? No one knows.
Where does the law stand there? No one knows.
Be even worse in a few years when the paltry votes they scrounged up with this move are long forgotten and the law continues to punish and hurt people for literally no justifiable reason.
I guarantee we are but months away from a senior labour politician resigning because they are found to have incest porn on one of their devices.
I’m literally saving this comment lol
Teenagers having sex is legal, sharing pictures of it is not.
Imagine you and your partner do make sexy videos but then your respective parents hook up.
The videos were made when you were not step siblings, but now you are.
This is essentially my understanding of the origin of the trope. When I was growing up, both me and every single kid I knew’s parents were already or in the process of either getting a divorce or remarrying.
So situations like Clueless and Drake & Josh were the norm, and it makes the trope all the more hilarious.
Well how could it not be? Genetically it’s just two random people, what would be the basis of making it illegal if at some point your parents hit off?
The basis to make it illegal is antiquated views of old white men how other people should live their lives according to how they see fit. Nothing more
Step-incest pornography and that which depicts performers as children is abhorrent.
Alongside banning strangulation in pornography which the government previously announced, tackling this vile content will make our country a safer place for women and children and shows the UK can lead the world in tackling violence against women and girlsThat’s it folks, step incest is violence against women and girls. Next up, in order to further protect them, they’ll be prohibited from going outside without a man by their side.
Whoever asked “What’s next, BDSM?” - guess what
The government has already made porn that shows women being choked illegal, after a review found videos like these had helped normalise it in real life.
The only silver lining in this whole thing is still only in “planning”
Ministers are also planning to make tech bosses personally liable if their platforms do not remove intimate pictures of people that are posted without consent.
Choking by unskilled people, does lead to permanent injury or death.
Real choking in any capacity, skilled or otherwise is dangerous. Simulated/RP choking, especially in porn is fine. Which one of the two are they trying to ban?
The one that kills people obviously.
That meme from spanchbob about id card happened here.
The government has already made porn that shows women being choked illegal
Haha, a lot of women I know are gonna be pissed about this…
Ministers are also planning to make tech bosses personally liable
Uh-oh. Some MPs are about to get a call from their uhm… tech bosses.
The only porn allowed in 10 years will be of people getting fucked by the government
What are you doing in my room, step-MP?
Someone check in with any step relatives he has, this smacks of projection
I never understood this whole step porn thing, but this is ridiculous lol
Yeah.
I don’t get it, it’s weird, but is it 5 years in jail weird? No.
It’s not about the actual relationship depicted. It’s that it’s forbidden. I doubt 99% of the people actually would want to bang their step-sister, or step-mother.
It cheap to make. The “story” is simple but explains why these two people live in the same house without it being incest.
It’s also really efficient, setting up the entire relationship with just the word “step-bro”. Plus, it’s taboo enough for the characters to say “we shouldn’t”, but not SO taboo that the viewer thinks they actually shouldn’t.
I think a subset of people like it, and the rest tolerate it. So, if you label every porn video as step-someone with step-other, you serve both audiences.
What I have a hard time wrapping my head around are scenarios where step-dad, step-mom, step-sis, and step-bro are all going at it in the same scene. Under what circumstances do these four people live together?
It’s easy marketing. Convenient situation, taboo, but not too taboo. The line always seems to be “but you’re my stepsister” “yeah, STEPsister, not real”. So it’s wrong, but not that wrong. The multiple people scenario is just ramping the taboo up, but not worrying about relationships after the video. Real polygamy is complicated and probably not as successful as porn depicts it. (and that’s ignoring the step situation altogether)
I say probably only because I’m sure there are some out there that work. But to have three or more people in a long-term working relationship without costs has to be rare. Just having something like a work relationship between a few people can be touchy, and that’s without feelings and sex involved.
Yeah, that just sounds like regular porn but with extra steps.
It’s also probably relatable to a significant portion of the audience. I wager a fair number of people have experienced a relationship or wanted a relationship stemming from that situation.
Through no choice of yours or theirs, suddenly you are spending a lot of time with someone. From some perspective ‘relatives’, but pratically speaking you have a stranger who is your age move in and you are both 15 to 17 and things happen.
I had a not-blood relation suddenly happen when we were both sixteen, and we ended up dating for a bit. A bit more removed than ‘siblings’, but close enough to spend a lot of time together.
I’m sure that’s partly true. In my experience, that’s just most of what’s tagged as “reality”, so any other situation with anything resembling a storyline takes digging. No wonder I couldn’t get into it.
They’re not just making it though. They’re renaming all the porn to have incest titles, whether they have anything to actually do with incest or not, it gets more clicks.
The headline makes it sound like they banned the whole step porn genre, which seemed super ridiculous to me too.
Buried in the article is says:
…possessing and publishing porn showing incest between family members and sex between step or foster relatives where one person pretends to be under-18 would be a crime
Just another moral panic to allow the Government to continue to lay the ground work to take away rights.
