The Republican-led Senate on Wednesday rejected the latest Democratic attempt to halt Donald Trump’s war in Iran, turning aside a resolution that would require the U.S. to withdraw forces from the conflict until Congress authorizes further action.

The 47-52 vote was the fourth time this year that the Senate has voted to cede its war powers to the president in a conflict that Democrats say is illegal and unjustified.

Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman was the only Democrat to vote against it. Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky voted with Democrats.

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    Fetterman is not a democrat.

    He is at best impaired mentally and at worst a GOP plant

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    Vote Fetterman’s useless ass out of office. WTF, Fetterman, if there is a politician who should be vocal about socialized medicine, it should be you, because that is what saved your useless ass. Instead the fuck throws money at a damn war.

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    There’s always at least one.

    … and THIS is how Ds show their compliance when the minority.

    … and THIS is how Rs show their compliance when the minority.

    BoTh PaRtIeS can stop this “supermajority” nonsense at ANY TIME. But, from their point of view, that makes popular legislation too easy to pass, and they don’t want that, do they?

    Instead, they ¯\(ツ)

    If memory serves this “supermajority filibuster” circus started in the 1970s. This is a parliamentary rule ONLY. It’s not law. It’s not in the constitution. It requires only a simple majority vote to erase. They pass legislation they really want without it all of the time, by making it an “exception” to the parliamentary rule (also done through simple majority vote). There are hundreds of “exceptions” to the super majority rule. This is what they want to pass.

    So, this is a fucking circus that they can stop at any time. For example, Democrats could have decided “enough is enough” when Biden was in office after the monstrosity that was Trump, and used the “nuclear option” (that’s what they call it) to revert to simple majority vote to pass laws. Then, they could have passed lots of very popular legislation, a new New Deal, so to speak; 70% of American voters want universal healthcare, for example… 90% of Democrats want this.

    What did the Democrats do for their own voters?

    ¯\(ツ)

    Couldn’t even pass higher minimum wage.

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      You mean the party bought and paid for by billionaires and lead by Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies? That party?

      Don’t hold your fucking breath.

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    This is why a very minimum requirement for an actual democracy includes recall voting.

    Dude just straight up decided to betray his constituents and nothing can be done to remove him.

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      I would also add “no confidence” recall voting and a two term limit, so politicians can’t form these decades-long relationships with their billionaire owners.

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      I came here to mention this. Glad I’m not alone. I do not understand why we can’t recall or impeach Congress members by vote.

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        I do not understand why we can’t recall or impeach Congress members by vote

        Because then the people might recall them and put in politicians who do what they want. And that’s bad for the people who don’t want what the people want; the capitalist class whom finances their campaigns.

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          Why does everything have to be so unequivocal or binary? He’s not who they voted for now. Should they have to endure it?

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            Easy solution is the ousted candidate’s party gets to choose a temporary replacement, but a new election must be held at the very next election to find a permanent replacement be they Democrat or Republican (whomever the people elect). Easy peasy.

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        Was he? Or did brain damage turn him republican? Because it seems like there is something mentally wrong with most republicans.

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          Studies showed that people who trended conservative tended to have more active parts of the brain for emotions, especially fear. They’re older and finding anything older than 2 months on the internet is like archeology.

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      I don’t know, man. I’m a Democrat because I support policies like marijuana legalization and free healthcare. The conflict in Iran is pretty low on my agenda. I wouldn’t feel particularly betrayed if he was my elected official.

      I never understood bipartisanship. My opinions and beliefs span the entire political spectrum. It feels like people think that anything supported by Republicans must be anti-Democrat.

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        The conflict in Iran is pretty low on my agenda.

        It’s costing US taxpayers an insane amount of money every day and driving up the cost of almost everything, you can’t just not care about it, even if you overlook all the needless death.

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    I don’t get why the hell people appear to be progressive one moment and then become regressive the next.

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        Sounds like that stroke a few years ago left him with some serious brain damage, and radically changed his political opinions/ideology (are those two related???).

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      He’ll be the only Democrat on the tickets and every single Democrat will show up to vote for him.

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        There’s no way that happens. Plenty of Democrats right here in my little burg that would run just to give that DINO competition. He wont make it through the primary.

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        I can see it now Fetterman Vs a maga republican, and democrats will say you gotta vote blue no matter who and blame leftists when the maga republican wins.

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          First of all if it was Fetterman vs maga, that wouldn’t be a choice - it would be maga vs maga. Second of all I’m pretty sure the people of Pennsylvania are pissed at him so I doubt he’ll be up for reelection

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    Seriously. I’ve got a FF plugin that automatically replaces “Fetterman” with “A Bag of Dicks Wearing a Hoodie”

    It’s a real time saver…

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    Wouldn’t the more a accurate headline be “Fetterman is the only pro-Iran-War senator to claim to be a democrat?”

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      All it takes to be a Democratic elected official is to run as a party member and get elected. He did those things. He’s a Democrat. The Democratic party is just a lot more right wing at its extremes (and overall) than folks like to admit.

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    Why not just draft a bill that is a formal declaration of war or immediate cease and desist of war activities of it doesn’t pass? Force the Republicans to formally stain themselves with war.

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      or immediate cease and desist of war activities of it doesn’t pass

      That’s not a thing, you can’t make a law that has effects if it doesn’t pass.

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        Well they ought to be able to. Make it like a vote of confidence in the war. Either we’re at war or the process to continue trumps aggression fails.

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          So there is the War Powers Resolution act, which requires the president get congressional approval within 60 days of hostilities. Obama’s admin made up some bullshit why it didn’t apply to his wars, and Trump will probably ignore it all together.

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            Obama’s admin made up some bullshit why it didn’t apply to his wars, and Trump will probably ignore it all together.

            How bloody convenient, eh?

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              A law asking the president to do a thing is unenforceable anyway, since the president would be the one enforcing it.

              All congress can do is impeach presidents until they come up with one that does the thing they want or stop funding the military.