• D1re_W0lf@piefed.social
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    11 days ago

    So… Trump praises Allah and the Iranians defend Jesus. Definitely did not have that on my 2026 bingo card.

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      You’re aware that Jesus features in the Quran as well as the Bible, right…? Highly respected figure in Islam, not at all surprising that Iran would be defending him.

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        Yes, I’m quite aware that the background is that after being visited by the archangel Gabriel and explained that basically the Christians did not understood Jesus message, Muhammad created Islam, hence being known as “the true prophet”. I’m also aware that as a figure, Jesus has been “whitened” to the image of Zeus to please Europeans of that time. That doesn’t prevent him of bring the symbol of the Catholic religion.

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          I mean if anything it would be to please the Romans, but anyway the “whiteness” of Jesus wasn’t a thing that occurred all at once. It was slow and over hundreds of years. Not that strange to think illiterate medieval peasants that never traveled more than 20km from their birthplace weren’t nuanced in all the “races” of the world or had a good understanding of geography. Of course they would imagine that this religious figure looked like them

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          he’s been whitened to the image of a Germanic man during the Christianisation of central Europe

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        Yeah if I understand correctly Allah is just a contraction of “Al Illah” which means “the god”.

        I love the history of the emergence of monotheism, it was very gradual and often the one god had to cohabit with lesser deities for centuries before they fully took over. Interestingly, Yahweh was in competition for some time with other warrior storm gods, including Belial and Baal which were ultimately demonized to the highest degree to prevent them coming back.

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        That’s a naive interpretation of the lore , then allah is also the same god of the mormons who is one of many in their pantheon. just because an atheist can step back and analyze the lore and draw relationships between fictional characters doesnt mean you can do the same through a lens of absolute truth in a haunted universe with real ghosts

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    I’m just happy we have finally found such a productive use of AI.

    All the job loss was really worth it for this.

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    I’m really fascinated by those tweets by the iranian embassies: The USA is waging war against Iran and the Iranians are allowed to spread their own war propaganda with their official accounts on US platforms.

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    can you imagine being a historian having to study, characterize, and teach these clips to students.

    like instead of WW2 tanks videos, and WW1 trench videos, we will teach these, and the context

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        Yeah, I have. Not a chance they are that caucasian white. Remember we are talking about 2k years ago, without all the intermixing of races and with people spending a lot of time under the sun.

        According to the bible Jesus did spend plenty time under the sun either working or preaching. No way he was that white.

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          To be fair, this fictional character could be purple and it would still be fine with me.

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          Just stop, jewish people included Hellenic greeks and many other “white” people to the point we have no clue. It is just so immaterial

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        I don’t think that they are unable to write “non-white ethnically correct Jesus” in their prompt…

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      I’m still not convinced that either of these are good uses….

      What scares me is that we once had to read political platforms to elect someone and to look to the newspapers or evening news to help us stay informed. And as technology progressed, we have found dumber and dumber reasons to form opinions about global events - we don’t like someone’s voice, or they wore the wrong outfit, or the building looks shabby. And now we enter a world where we are going to judge people and events based on fabricated material, which I find terrifying.

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        And now we enter a world where we are going to judge people and events based on fabricated material, which I find terrifying.

        If it’s something they choose to share themselves, directly linked to their name, I think it’s fair to judge them on that.

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          I agree that we can judge the creator, at least initially. However, this is like Pandora’s box where you can’t put the contents back in. If falsified content is released that tarnishes the reputation of someone else, that will spread beyond the original creator and stay in the public domain for years.

          It’s not inconceivable that we enter a world of faked videos depicting speeches, war crimes, sexual affairs, etc that may very well be fakes, and they will get harder and harder to distinguish from reality

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        What scares me is that we once had to read political platforms to elect someone and to look to the newspapers or evening news to help us stay informed.

        Both highly biased sources, I’m glad they’re not our only options these days.