Something I was thinking about in the car today, shuffling through songs that glorify The Hustle, talk about how money is all that matters…It got me wondering if there’s too much media that tells us that working ourselves to death is the only way to live.
Yes, I am of course aware that there’s plenty of media about living a life of leisure, rebelling against the grind, and so on. I’m am of course also aware that a solid work ethic is a generally positive trait.
So the question I guess comes down to balance. What do you see as the prevailing message in the media you see/hear/read? Is it, “Work as hard and amass as much money as you possibly can and nothing else matters?” Or do you see something different/better?
Capitalist propaganda. Capitalists pay to make that media, so it’s their culture that gets represented.
Yes. And people just eat it up. I get it. I got caught up in the “hustle and grind” of life. I tried multiple income sources and I was proudly working 80 hours/week while missing my children grow up. But a life altering event caused me to pause and reassess my life. I started working less and spending more time with my family. I worked on myself from being low tempered to be more “go with the flow”
i knew someone in cc that was doing 68hrs/week, end up pratically sleeping at school whenever he can, then had some kind “breakdown” and changed his major away from the “MD” field, yea it wasnt realistic as he wasnt even acing those Pre-stem classes(not even upper division yet), and it would be too expensive , stressful to even compete, i assume it was because he had a AVERAGE in a gen chem class, he wont survive in things like organic chem, biochem(which i took in a 4 year), even physics was brutal for non-scientists. he went with a 180 degree into something totally different. dont know how web designer as a industry is doing now.
dont know how web designer as a industry is doing now.
Bereft with AI slop following sweeping layoffs, so not well.
so i suspected, he probably regrets steering away from health field now.(couldve went nursing or something adjacent0.
Not really anymore. I think it was definitely the dominant messaging in the 2010s when people were fighting to be rewarded for their hustle (e.g., lean-in feminism, LGBTQ consumerism, Asian Americans as tech entrepreneurs, rise of the [insert minority here] owned business labeling, etc.), but I find the pendulum has been swinging back the other way towards nihilist external-locus-of-control counterculture. I think we are slowly realizing as a society that we can’t, in fact, work our asses out of systemic oppression by the elites.
It’s a peculiar thing
Very American
I want to work as little as I possibly can. I have plenty to do with my life and making money for someone else isn’t important to me
yes, the billionaires own the “popular media” and want to continue the “Don’t worry that your life sucks NOW, work hard, eek out an existence, MAYBE MAYBE you too could be wealthy, but if not, don’t worry, AFTER DEATH you get to be wealthy for sure, trust me brah…”
people watching and supporting Ellisons paramounts and htier show are just as responsible as he is what hes doing with it. aka nutrek.
and other news, HP and jk rowlings.
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Gates over Auschwitz:
Arbeit macht frei, dumme Gans.
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and nazis got thier “ethics, segregation” from america, its comes back full circle.
The prevailing message in media I see is that the workers should unionise
That kind of media doesn’t really appeal to me so I don’t consume it. A lot of rap and country is about that (in different ways; hustling vs working hard at your job). The only recent show or movie I watched that I can think of that emphasizes overworking is The Pitt, but I’m not sure it glorifies it.
I do think working hard (or smart or whatever) is important and admirable, but only if the work is exceptionally important and beneficial to society (not most work), and not if you’re being exploited by your employer (most work). The most important work is probably the labor people don’t typically get paid to do (or get paid little).
I’m also of the opinion that trying to work too much is usually counterproductive and people get less work done. I’m pretty sure there are plenty of studies that confirm this.
Dolla dolla bill, yo
The media is owned by capitalists. Anything that threatens capital needs to be snuffed out.
This is Tupac who was murdered.
This is Kanye West who is a professed Nazi and still alive.
These songs were within a decade of each other. I know that’s not enough data, but I think the differences in tone can be accounted for which was was more acceptable to power.
it also leans heavily into pro-govt propaganda for most mvoies and show.
To be honest I only interpret that kind of messaging as “buy my course!” shilling. nobody in real life believes that, so I just disregard it as if I was reading an ad. barely notice it.
There’s an interesting video on this topic: “Hollywood’s obsession with ambition”
You might find it interesting, also gives examples of the opposite portrayed in media.
That was a great watch. If anyone else has any other movie/series recommendations like Perfect Days (2023), let me know
I think only in US which has tons of really weird propaganda (glorifying police violence, military, nationalism, capitalism and so on). In Europe I think this is mostly promoted in some corporate circles which are very “Americanized”.
“Popular media” shouldn’t determine how you want to live.
However, you should objectively look at what it would take to achieve your goals. And reassess at regular intervals.
I think it just depends on what music you’re listening to. I wasn’t able to think of any songs I’ve been listening to in the last year or two that glorified the hustle, if anything they do the opposite. Here’s an example that came to mind when I saw this post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1bW2MBdyLw
When you say media, do you mean Rap?
Not sure about OP, but I see this in tons of genres of music along with a lot of films/shows. Working hard, even if not compensated enough to live a happy life, is often portrayed as the best thing you can do while relaxing and not wanting to work is portrayed as lazy and undesirable.
just like these wealthy people releasing thier daily schedule to the media, activities as being “busy” when in fact they have so much time to do anything else but work,
Never forget Musk “works” 120 hours a week, but has enough time to nonstop tweet out random nonsense
silly, hes able to do that becauses hes on cocaine 24/7





