The United States army announced last month that it would raise the maximum age at which Americans can enlist from 35 to 42 years to expand its pool of eligible candidates amid recruiting challenges in recent years.

An updated version of US Army Regulation 601–210, dated March 20, outlined the changes, including the elimination of rules requiring anyone with a single conviction for marijuana possession or drug paraphernalia to obtain a waiver to enlist.

The new age limit was announced during the US-Israel war on Iran, towards which young people have expressed widespread opposition.

The updated version of Army Regulation 601–210 officially takes effect on Monday, April 20.

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    They can change enlistment age ranges that require little to no ID requirement but they demand very strict ID requirements for voting. They are telling us how they think of us as meat crayons.

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    Jesus fucking christ. Most people who are 42 actually look and act like it. This won’t end well.

    For instance I’m 29 and I do not have the body of a soldier. Never have, probably never will.

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      Canada’s enlistment age has been up to 50 for quite some time now. Basic gets you into shape… Or it doesn’t, and you fail out.

      In the grand scheme of things this really doesn’t seem like a big deal. I think it’s newsworthy because it reflects a clear anxiety in the US Military about their inability to fill their recruitment numbers, but beyond that It’s not really all that unusual.

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          And that’s an actual problem. That’s kind of my point; why are people fixating on largely meaningless things like recruitment age, instead of very real problems like ditching mental resiliency training?

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        My body looks the right shape at almost 50, but my knees and shoulders would be fucked carrying the loads they require in infantry training. Probably also my back.

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            Sorry I can’t read that. Could you translate it to Canadian English?

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          There’s always call for all kinds of specialized trades. You have to be able to handle the core discipline requirements (just don’t be a fuck up, basically) and you need to able to pass the FORCE test by the end of your basic training, which is a moderately hard physical exam. You can look up the requirements online. After that, if you’re not combat arms it’s basically just an office job but in uniform. You work 8 to 4, get summer and winter leave (something like 8 weeks total per year), plus usually 4 day long weekends if your command doesn’t suck, guaranteed annual pay increases, probably a signing bonus if you go into an in-demand trade, and potentially access to subsidized military housing. If you don’t get subsidized housing, you’ll get a cost of living allowance which is based on where you’re posted; for somewhere like Ottawa or Toronto it can be a few thousand a month on top of your pay.

          It’s definitely not for me, but honestly there are far, far worse jobs out there.

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            whoaaa thanks so much for the info!! I live in Japan now and wanna move back for my kids to be able to experience Canada, but find it so damn hard because I dunno what kind of jobs there are and it’s just so damn expensive there now. I’m seriously considering giving it a shot if it helps me and my family resettle in Canada. Again, thanks so much for the info.

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      I had the body of a soldier, but it took too much space in the freezer.

      Yeah, I didn’t want to die for an idiot government in my 20s, but now I don’t want to and am not getting up and into a warzone. I’m too old for this shit and I’m already in my pajamas. And my feetsies hurt from walking too much and I’m full of cheese.

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      milleneals are likely aged out of the services, at least most of them. gen z is thier target, and upcoming alpha EVENTUALLY.

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        The fuck are you talking about? Im an older Millennial/Xennial and im 42. That means the bulk of the Millennials are younger to much younger than I am. The birth years are roughly 1981-96.

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          Agreed. I’m either the youngest Millennial or Oldest Gen-Z at 29 nearly 30. Gen-Z hasn’t reached the previous enlistment age of 35, so it’s entirely targeted at millennials. That said, it might be caused by Gen-Z’s unwillingness to enlist, so sorry our government reacted that way.

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      As if we haven’t already had to sacrifice enough, now they want our lives directly on the line. Hey, you know all those years your spent paying off ludicrous college debt at shitty low-paying jobs, living in unaffordable housing, pushing back starting families? Well, now that you’ve finally found your footing, we want you to upend everything you’ve been fighting uphill for and take on a new fight you didn’t ask for! The country that’s done nothing to help you, but that has demanded you to give more and more over the course of decades (and that shit on your generation for taking so long to meet adult milestones through no fault of your own), now needs your blood for yet another pointless war.

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    It’s almost like the younger generations don’t feel keen to join whatever misadventure their nation wants to go on during their service. Especially given the high likelihood that they’ll be involved in supporting/committing fairly unambiguous war crimes and genocide. They’ve also watched generation after generation of veterans get sold down the river… how could they resist.

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      [The younger generations] also watched generation after generation of veterans get sold down the river…

      General Benjamin Button probably wouldn’t work out, anyway.

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      read an article about the enlistment problems back '24, most are still preparing for college, and they see even some min wage jobs have better pay then the military, and better hours. why have shit hours and low pay and very restrictive requirements, when you can have part time job that pays more. maybe works in rural areas where theres practically no jobs, instead more middle income neighborhoods.

      the militaryganda movies did help enlistment somehwat(aka top gun maverick)

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    They are going to need bodies for the Iran ground invasion and they need to expand the pool of possible recruits/draftees.

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    Jesus fuck, I wonder if the reenlistment age went up too? Apparently now I could enlist for a first time, even if I hadn’t before. I can’t imagine doing that shit at my age.

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      I just turned 40 a few months ago. Luckily I’m Canadian and live in the UK, so this doesn’t affect me…however my knees and back ache just thinking about it…

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        Hell I’m 26 and my knee aches at the concept of this. I could probably ignore it but it still wouldn’t be fun.

        My knee is fucked from a badly judged jump in boy scouts when I was 14 or something, word of advice don’t blindly jump through bushes there may be a perfectly angled rock sitting there waiting to fuck you up.

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          word of advice don’t blindly jump through bushes there may be a perfectly angled rock sitting there waiting to fuck you up.

          Oh, you sweet summer child. There’s no “may be” about it. It’s there, yearning for blood!

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          If you just go there and die immediately, you’re of no use. You have to make somebody suffer first. Don’t ask me why, I don’t make the rules.

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          Meh, they can get fucked. I’ll Conscientious Objector, or resort to sabotage. I’ll fight for the abolition of the state, or against a US invasion of Canada on my own, but I’ll never willingly be a foot for the Imperialist boot.

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            In the words of ny fav canadian prog/post rock band: “we support the troops when they kill their officers”

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    Oh shit I’m in the age bracket again? at least I’m trans I guess 🤷