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    • Tiresia@slrpnk.netEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Much as I hate states, a democratic state that proportionally represents all people in its territory has more right to exist than other states. Palesinians can’t vote so Israel has less right to exist than some other states.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.orgEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Democracy doesn’t need a state. If you hate states, then you shouldn’t defend them tbh. They are inherently anti-democratic in the way they arbitrarily decide who is and isn’t part of the represented group (e.g. by borders)

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      I don’t disagree but I think you are missing the point.

      It shouldn’t be legal to say Israel doesn’t have a right to exist. People should be allowed to voice an option freely without fear of harm.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.orgEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Yeah and historic context is important. In Germany it is also illegal to say that the Holocaust didn’t happen and that’s a good thing.

  • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    2 months ago

    One of the founding principles in the Declaration of Independence is that no State has the right to exist without the consent of all people ‘governed’ within that States area of control.

    Any American stating that Israel has a right to exist or demanding that others state that Israel has a right to exist are unAmerican. And being unAmerican in defense of a foreign State.

    Fucking traitorous scum.

      • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        So what?

        The use of the question: Do you believe Israel has a right to exist?

        is a propaganda point universally used as a gotcha against critics of Israel.

        Furthermore, while the view that States have no right to exist without the full consent of all of the governed is a (hypocritically held) American view, it is a universal one held by anyone who believes apartheid is wrong.

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
    3·
    2 months ago

    It isn’t a law yet luckily

    I do wonder how this is even being considered. Do Germans not have legally protected free speech?

      • desertdruidEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        like that

        like what? ‘from the river to the sea’?

        • chaitae3@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          I meant like proposing to criminalise something that is obviously guaranteed by the constitution. They do that all the time.