• mlg@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I can’t find the original image but here’s a decent one someone posted somewhere else lol:

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    2 months ago

    Ironic. Most Linux desktop distros now don’t set up a root password, and they make you reboot after many updates.

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      Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”, and not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment. Typically, the latter can also be handled on the command line, and the reboot suggestion is for less tech savvy users

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        Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”

        They tell the user to reboot, and they don’t phrase it like it is optional. It’s been a while since I’ve used Ubuntu, for example, but my memory is that they say that a reboot is required, or something along those lines. There is nothing wrong with my using the phrase “make you reboot” for those cases.

        not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment.

        When I was using Ubuntu, I’d get a reboot request like once every couple of weeks to a month. Maybe you don’t think that’s “many updates”, but the point of the sticker was obviously to compare to other operating systems, and in that regard, it was similar to Windows, probably more frequent.

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          Ok two things here:

          1. don’t use Ubuntu, canonical began enshittification years ago
          2. automatic updates will trigger more frequent reboots - and are typically not a good idea in my humble opinion
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          Would you prefer a long winded explanation of which services need to be restart and what it means that your kernel version was updated along with a description of kexec and when/how to use it? I think it makes more sense to recommend a reboot and let people who know those lower level details do as they please.

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      Please tell me which

      The only one I saw is Fedora, and that’s it. Even with something like Silver blue you can Live-apply the updates

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      Logging in as the root user hasn’t been the way to “be root” on Linux systems in decades. sudo/doas/whatever are there for that purpose and you can use those to set a root password if you want. This isn’t ironic at all and you have full control of your system.

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        Do you understand the idea of how reading something in context is different from taking it out of context? The sticker is bragging about how Linux is better than Windows, but the specific things they called out are virtually indistinguishable from Windows. That’s the irony. They were essentially saying, “Pick Linux over Windows because of these two things that it does the same as Windows.” It’s similar to how your comment is ironic, confidently explaining something incorrectly.

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    I don’t understand people who don’t turn off the computers. Like why does it need to be on when you’re not using it. Linux boots up almost instantly nowadays. And you can save your session so everything is exactly where you left it if that’s what you’re worried about

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        My longest running machine at the moment: 00:31:08 up 378 days, 5:12, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

        My old raspberry pi 1b, which I use as an audio server for my stereo receiver. I typically have 4-5 machines running at any time performing various network-related tasks. I keep user terminals up as well, if they don’t consume much (<=10w). GPU hogs get put to sleep.

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      Because I fail to configure wake-on-lan and such and I sometimes want remote access to it. I do have cron put it to sleep in low-hours and wake up next day…

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        The TL;DR I remember is that over a decade ago, someone who works on Gnome has decided that a machine with only a single user and a single DE does not need to have a “Log Out” button by default - when people mentioned that logging out of a user is still useful to reload settings, the response was that “just rebooting is fine in that case”. Thing is, no one actually noticed those changes until now, because with the X11/Wayland switch, every environment was technically running two DEs and had the logout button. But now with Gnome 50, the switch was completed and the Logout button disappeared for many people (as technically intended, but that feature was implemented so long ago that even a lot of current Gnome devs were confused by it)

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          Lol. Typical Gnome fuckery. What a bunch of fuckwits.

          I stopped using it 20 or 25 years ago because of stuff like this, and they keep doing it, release after release. I’ve no idea why users put up with it.

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          there was a bot pandemic on reddit several years ago. where when people commented “I want this on a shirt” and similar phrase, bots will reply with random links selling shirts with somehow that exact design appear on the reddit post.

          nowadays it still gives me redflag vibes when someone ask such question about design & t-shirt and replied with a link 💀

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            Not a bot, I swear.

            I was looking for the sticker for myself, and only found the redbubble shirts. Strangely, the “designer” only put it on shirts - typically redbubble people will slap their shit on everything - mousepads, mugs, shirts, sweaters, you name it.

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          Meh? Redbubble is very adequate for things like this. The shirts aren’t super great quality - but if you really want the shirt badly, they have shipped shirts and mugs to me in the past.

          Just be real careful washing (cold, delicate, and inside out) and for the love of God hang to dry.

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      Huh?

      On Atomic distros you need to reboot everytime you update the system or install anything into an overlay…

      On other systems you can mostly just restart services and programs, as long as they aren’t the kernel, and likely pid 1.

      (Arguable kexec can be considered a reboot.)