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    An HHS spokesperson did not respond to questions but in an email blamed the administration of former President Joe Biden for the rise in parents rejecting vitamin K shots. “Vitamin K at birth,” the spokesperson added, “remains the standard of care.”

    For fuck’s sake. These assholes can’t even take responsibility for the results of what they’re spewing.

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        Seriously!!!

        Remember when most of their grievances were about an overreaching government that dictated how they lived their lives? Now that their party is in power that’s all they want to fucking do to the rest of us.

        How does ‘personal responsibility’ translate into ‘I don’t want this and you shouldn’t have it either’?

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      At what point do we just turn it into the new “Thanks Obama” meme? I feel like at a certain point, embracing it as a joke is the only way to get them to stop using it as an excuse. Because as long as they can say it and be taken seriously, they’ll continue using it.

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    It’s wild how many parents are terrified of a vitamin shot but completely comfortable trusting random wellness influencers with zero medical background. And the really tragic part is that newborns don’t exactly get a second chance if the gamble goes wrong.

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      China recently decimated their (previously thriving) influencer ecosystem, simply by requiring that health influencers have documented health education, financial influencers have finance education, etc… China implemented the rule, and immediately banned like ~95% of all their health influencers. The rule targets both individual influencers and the platforms that host them. And no platform wants to stick their neck out and eat fines for some random influencer. So influencers who didn’t have documented education got banned basically overnight.

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        We need this AND it will never happen here.

        China is clearly winning at modern society. The US is an empire in decline and it’s becoming more clear by the day.

        We so fucked.

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        IDK if China is really a great example here, considering how many Chinese doctors will still tell you that drinking cold water is bad for you, and garlic makes people horny.

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          That’s the funny thing about medicine… Lots of medical advice is largely determined by where you live. In America, doctors tell pregnant women to avoid eating too much fish. In Japan, doctors tell pregnant women to eat more fish.

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            Well, there is also a huge quality difference between the average fish you can buy in the states compared to Japan

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              Its also which kind of fish iirc prey fish accumulate heavy metals which matters for an embroy…at least that’s the explanation i heard, therefore sushi no good because there will be salmon

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          they still do that, and using endangered animals and plants. one example is the cordyceps that affect caterpillars in the steppes, they harvested so much that it so much that they couldnt sustain the demand, because its a complex lifecycle for the fungi and caterpillar.

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      Bro here on the local news during covid they’d interview idiots “im not trusting the government idk whats in that shot” and then they hit their gas station vape, amurica!

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      It’s literally because these people are manipulated by fear – influencers intentionally use emotionally loaded language while doctors very intentionally do not.

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      Yeah, that reminds me of times of days past when people would just be chatting about how this or that food is bad for you… As we rail another line of cocaine… Like what do you care about healthy?

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      also listeing to a QUCK DOCTOR, AND person with brainworms. they also would inject GLP-1 because, they look thinner with it.

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        Yep. Sucks to be born just do die of preventable illiness but that’s literally evolution. Maybe the reason the world sucks so much is because we put up bumper rails and allow the weak to survive.

        If you ask any right wing smooth brain they’d agree, they’re not smart enough to recognize it’s them that lose.

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    I have four natural born kids and all of them had their Vitamin K shots, and I would do it again in a heartbeat. I trust my doctors’ recommendations on what course of action is best, knowing that there are risks and benefits to any medical treatment, and we do these treatments because the benefits outweigh the risks.

    With that said, the article doesn’t mention that the risk of the vitamin K shot is that the newborn’s bilirubin levels can be raised far enough that they have to be treated for it. One of my daughters had to be blindfolded and put under a very bright blue light for several hours or maybe it was overnight, which is not a nice thing to see your newborn go through.

    But it is surely better than seeing them bleed to death.

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      One of my daughters had to be blindfolded and put under a very bright blue light for several hours or maybe it was overnight, which is not a nice thing to see your newborn go through.

      Completely painless and done every single day in any NICU.

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        Isn’t this for Jaundice? Or just happens to be the same cure? Anyway my baby went through the blue light special for jaundice - the worst part was having to be in the hospital longer

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    I used to feel this was a tragedy. Now I feel that those parents aren’t intelligent enough to have children. They deserve what they got. The child died but it was probably going to of something else stupid at some point anyway. A century ago, before we had all the modern medical procedures, a large percentage of children didn’t make it to adulthood. That is going to be the new norm for the parents who know better than “the elites”.

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      Be careful. “Stupid people shouldn’t procreate” sounds like a good idea until the state deems you too stupid to deserve life. That’s eugenics. And it never stops with the people you think deserve it.

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          I’m not saying this child died due to eugenics. I’m saying that calling situations like this fine because the parents “deserve it” for being stupid is eugenicist thinking. It is justifying the child’s death because the parents are stupid and shouldn’t procreate anyway. Why not? Inferior genetics?

          The child deserved to live in a world where even with stupid parents, they get adequate modern healthcare and can thrive. Instead they died, and that’s horrible, and saying “it’s fine because the parents were stupid” is horrible.

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      On the other hand, some supposedly intelligent people are so doubtful of the world that they become hesitant at bringing a child in.

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    These highlights were written by the reporters and editors who worked on this story.

    This is how bad the wider world of journalism has got, that having a human write a synopsis is now seen as bragging rights.

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    Why do doctors have to listen to parents? If a parent abuses a child the child gets taken away but if he abuses a baby somehow it’s ok?

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      To a degree, parents have the right to reject medical treatment for a child. There must be an immediate threat to the child’s life or health to ignore their refusal. A preventative vitamin shot is not such a case. Superseding the parents’ wishes here would require a court order.

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          To be clear: I think the parents that made this decision are stupid and short sighted, and it sucks that children suffered as a result. I’m just pointing out that the doctors’ hands are legally tied.

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    Oral vitamin K1 is almost as effective as injected K1, and most countries seem to offer it orally as an alternative to injected. Oral is pretty much just as effective as injected. 1, 2

    The article doesn’t mention oral. Is it still not approved in the US? (It’s the same formulation as that injected).

    It’s very cheap. In Australia it costs ~9AUD (~7USD) for a single dose vial with oral syringe without subsidies.

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      We personally don’t know the semantics as to why it’s not approved orally, however regardless of it being a shot or a drug shouldn’t matter if it’s gonna save the baby in the end.

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    this is a pretty poetic counterpoint to people who think Idiocracy is prophetic. nature doesn’t give a fuck about what you think or how you feel, it is what it is. being an ignorant fucking moron meant death for the majority of human history, either for you, or as in this case your children. there’s a large evolutionary pressure for humans to be intelligent and well educated, and the worse things get the more that will be true.

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    Makes me feel like a piece of shit saying it, but those kids are probably better off dead rather than being raised in an antivaxxer household where they’re going to be indoctrinated with all that idiotic bullshit, forced to attend “parties” with diseased kids to intentionally catch their illnesses, probably have no chance at higher education thanks to shitty religious based homeschooling, take a bunch of quack medicine when they are ill ranging from useless to actively harmful, and possibly experience permanent damage from a preventable disease. Just seems like a lifetime of needless suffering.

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      You never know, I was raised evangelical and Ive managed to have a good life once I got out of there.

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        seen alot of those stories yt, ultra conservative people leaivng thier bubble and flourishing, but i wish they actually come out and say its evangelical,christanity instead of trying to obfuscate what thier saying.