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Microsoft Wants to 'Make People Addicted' to its New AI Assistant, Internal Documents Reveal

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Planning documents for "Scout" say the plan is to "make people addicted" to the tool before adding new features.
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  • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Ah yes, Cortana and Copilot both suck, but surely third time’s the charm. And when Scout is, inevitably, unpopular as well? We’ll see what they call number four.

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      You forgot clippy, but everyone forgets about clippy unless it’s in this exact context. Or it’s Norfolk wizard game.

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        I can’t believe I forgot Clippy…

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        Miss you, Tay

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          astoundingly racist, insulting reply

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        What about Microsoft Bob? Doesn’t that count as their first attempt?

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          Clippy was basically an upgraded Bob kinda like how the old Jeep Cherokees are just upgraded Jeep Wagoneers.

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            Yeah “but not as annoying” lol. No idea what you mean about jeeps: I’m in the UK, and not a car enthusiast either.

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              The Cherokee and Wagoneer aren’t distinguishable at first glance, the Cherokee was just an upgraded Wagoneer. That was my point Clippy was just an upgraded Bob with new coat of paint.

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      Is there any fundamental difference between Copilot and Scout, or is it just a straight up rebranding?

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        My impression is that scout is specifically going to be an agentic ai. Agentic ai platforms are supposedly a little more competent than chatbots, but still subject to the same llm chicanery and enormous energy usage.

        It’s hard to compare against copilot because MS has called a ton of distinct things copilot (see the diagram below).

        diagram of different MS products called copilot

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          I really hate that out of all careers, it’s developers.

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      You forgot they called it Bing in the middle too

    • Pycorax@sh.itjust.works
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      Cortana was actually really good on Windows Phone but they dumbed it down and added all sort of crap to it by the time it was integrated onto the desktop. They could’ve doubled down on whatads it good but nope.

      • João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)@ciberlandia.pt
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        @pycorax I second this, Windows Phone 8.1/10 was a godsend in a world of Android/iPhone duopoly (even if made by Microslop) and Cortana was smart enough to almost do everything you could ask of it (unlike the “couldn’t understand what you said” or “calling Superfun New Toy From China” instead of “Super from Building A” that “AI” assistants of its time said).
        @finalarbiter

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      “A little sign in here, a touch of wifi there…”

      That’s all I know of Cortana.

      🔇

      • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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        That’s Mambo No. 6

      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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        Not sure why that had to come on automatically at maximum volume every time, but the number of times I’ve finished backing up and re-imaging a computer at 3 AM, on to have her start hollering at the exact moment my head hits the pillow, is too damn many

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    microslop can fuck off.

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      I think you mean to say: “microslop can slop off”

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        Microfuck can slop off.

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          Fuckroslop can slop off.

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    do you really wanna be admitting that addiction is your goal?

    A $6 Million Jury Verdict Ruled Social Media Is Addictive.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/anishasircar/2026/03/30/a-6-million-jury-verdict-ruled-social-media-is-addictive-now-what/

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      That kind of fine is a pittance.

      • adarza@lemmy.ca
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        true. but this one wasn’t a class action, either… just one plaintiff.

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    My non Linux savvy spouse is currently dual booting Linux Mint because Windows has become so frustrating to use.

    Mint isn’t perfect. We’ve run into a few bugs and shortcomings. But there’s a big difference between dealing with genuine issues in an OS and using one that feels actively hostile and designed to exploit the user.

    If both experiences can be frustrating, why choose the one that’s frustrating by design (unless you absolutely have to) ?

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      I’ve used Linux for a decade now and windows is so much more buggy and shortcoming. Including new bugs.

      • Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world
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        Most of my music software doesn’t function correctly on Linux :(

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          What software

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            FL studio along with a whole pile of third party VSTs, plus lots of weird audio routings and everything in 96kHz.

            Bitwig is neat, but I’d have to buy like $1500 in third party VSTs to do what I do in FL.

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              You should consider a VM

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                How much worse is the latency going to get

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                  IDK

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              I really wish they’d had the balls and/or the legal power to keep calling it FruityLoops.

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                I mean it’s massively outgrown the original looper app it used to be. It’s top tier for DAW choices now.

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              Personally I’ve used FL with Bottles on Fedora with terra-wine-staging package and everything except webviews (FL cloud which I don’t use anyway) works perfecly (and cpu usage is higher than on windows)

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          You probably know this already, but Reaper is fully Linux compatible, it’s not FL, so you’ll have to adapt, but it is great

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            I’ll have to adapt and buy $1,000 in third party VSTs to not have as good of a mixing/mastering solution as what’s built into FL :(

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              I seriously doubt that, maybe run your setup past the forum and ask?

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    I will never EVER give an AI agency over any of my personal accounts.

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      You are not the target audience.

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        Oh we’re the target, just not the customer.

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      Someone else has probably already done that for you.

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    adding new “features”

    look inside

    enshittification

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      looks inside" its all AI, nothing but AI"

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    Gotta produce dopamine for that to happen. Not cortisol.

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      Yeah but one day they will hack it, like every form of advertising and addiction that was pushed on us since tobacco. This is just a new frontier that is unknown right now, like explaining the ridiculous idea of future social media addiction to a user in 2005.

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        This is microsoft. They broke their own fucking os.

        They’re not gonna hack your brain with copilot.

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          Clippy still whispers to us.

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    If they want people addicted to an AI, it’s going to have to be a lot better than fucking Copilot.

    As slop generators go, it’s about the sloppiest.

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      Maybe their target audience are masochists?

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        Well, as a Windows user I can see the appeal

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    We’re going to MAKE people ADDICTED by making a REALLY Good Product! SOLVING annoying Problems! TREATING Customers respectfully! FORCING ourselves Onto people like Donald Trump on Little Girls!

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    Did they try making it good?

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      That’s the beauty of it (from their viewpoint), they don’t have to make it good, just unavoidable.

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      yes, good at self-destructing.

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    Yeah, we know

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    Have they tried making it better, I feel like I’m more likely to become addicted to it if it was good.

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    Hahahaha suck it, Microslop. I look forward to your Chapter 11 filing.

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    This strategy worked so well for Bing

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      Duckduck go is thriving using Bing without the AI bullshit.

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      And Clippy

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    Duh. I wouldn’t have called it “addiction”, but dependency was clearly the goal, otherwise they wouldn’t take away classical search.

    I thought that was obvious from the start.

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