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Isn’t this a message that the intended recipient will never see?
if this is you, you’re probably me
He’s going to go around them and make them read it.
Fuck that, this is the asshole that rides endlessly in my blind spot.
If you’re that close to the car in front, you’re the bigger asshole and causing by far the bigger danger
The people who are obsessed with this are also the people who seem to think any person in the left lane at any time gives them justification to aggressively weave in and out of traffic, ignoring the equally present laws against speeding and undertaking.
This is my impression too. The number of times I have been held up by someone hogging the outside lane, or had to change lanes twice around someone hogging the middle, is very low compared to the number of times I’ve been held up by a lorry overtaking another lorry on a two-lane road (perfectly legal, happens at least a dozen times every trip on such roads) or been aggressively tailgated while I’m overtaking traffic (not legal, happens about once per such trip)
There are only 2 traffic laws in my town, apparently:
- “it’s my turn”
- “I wanna go fast”
The problem is everyone obeys them.
You close the gap gradually as a reminder to get the fuck out of the way. The sticker is correct. Get out of the fast lane.
Your desire to go faster than the car in front does not overrule rules of safe driving. If you think it does, or if you’re so impatient you are unable to think rationally in this situation, your attitude is not suitable for driving a two ton machine at 70-odd miles per hour.
The sticker is wrong. Get out of the driver’s seat.
Lol bro/sphene. Just move over. Your attitude really isnt fit for sharing communal resources.
Just let me past bro. Just get out of my way bro. Just get out of my way or I’ll drive up your arse bro. My right to go fast is more important than your right to safely use the road bro.
I’ll move over when I’m good and ready. Which will be slower if some cunt is right behind me, because I need to make very certain, by double and triple checking my mirrors and blind spots, that you haven’t already decided to undertake, and that there’s definitely nothing that would cause me to have to abort my lane change, because said cunt will already be squeezing past me and I won’t be able to.
I’ll also need to lower my own speed so that their following distance is less likely to cause them to drive into the back of me in the event I have to emergency brake, and less likely to cause their own ruin if I have to swerve suddenly out of the way of some road debris that they than have no chance to spot because they’re trying to get into my back seats.
😂
Incorrect in Wisconsin, FWIW. By law, we have the speed limit, and “slower traffic keep right.” And there’s no keeping-up-with-flow-of-traffic clause, either. So traveling at the limit in the left lane is completely legal, there’s no obligation to clear the way for lawbreakers.
There’s legal and there’s things you should do. If the highway is three lanes, move the fuck over.
As I’ve been reminded, it’s not your job to police other drivers’ behavior. 😉
Nor is it yours. Even in your own comments you admit that the left lane is the passing lane. If someone is behind you, you’re slower traffic. You’re obligated to move over, and you’re in the wrong if you do not.
What is it with you power freaks that just have to enact control by fucking with other people? Find a better way to get a rage boner.
If you have slower traffic keep right, and there is no one to the right of the slower moving car, shouldn’t they keep right in that case?
No, not if they’re travelling at about the speed limit. It would be illegal to overtake.
It is also illegal to stay in the left lane when other people are speeding. If they are going faster than you, you are by definition slower traffic and obliged to keep to the right.
Your job as a driver is not to police other drivers’ behaviors. It’s not even to follow the letter of the law. It’s to operate the vehicle safely. Creating obstacles for other people because you don’t think they should drive so fast is not a safe action.
Really, we need to collectively get rid of the idea of a “fast lane.” The left lane is a passing lane. You should only be in it when you’re attempting to pass someone, and when the pass is complete, you should move over.
I’d just point out, as in my original comment, that is incorrect in Wisconsin. It is perfectly legal to drive at the speed limit in the left lane here. We don’t have any notion of a passing lane in state law.
Out of courtesy, I stay to the right, but almost every semi is doing 65MPH when the limit is 70MPH, the adaptive-cruise people hanging behind them are even slower. So, I pass them. Interestingly, by following the speed limit, I’ll encounter maybe one or two left-lane campers in a four-hour highway trip. It would seem that the people trying to police the behavior of slower (than they’d like) drivers in fast or passing lane are the greater problem.
Just a quick bit of searching, and I found a Wisconsin sheriff who is far less definitive on this than you:
According to state law, any vehicle traveling “at less than the normal speed of traffic” must be driven in the right-hand lane, or as close as practicable, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle.
So Wisconsin does acknowledge that anyone going less than the normal speed of traffic should only use the left lane to pass. But, as the sheriff points out:
“It describes normal traffic, so to say somebody going 80 is normal is going to be very difficult for me to say that. So normal being above the speed limit, you’ve got two conflicting sets of laws here.”
And it’s okay that traffic laws conflict with each other because, again, the point is not the letter of the law, but the safe and predictable operation of the vehicle.
Minor correction: It is sadly not illegal in some states to stay in the left lanes.
Completely legal doesn’t mean you aren’t a dick for doing it
Sometimes you gotta pass speed-governed semis and adaptive-cruise folks; I’m not worried about criminals’ opinions of me.
I’m not worried about criminals’ opinions of me.
Lmao this would be a great bit if you weren’t serious
Thank you!
Atleast you make it easy to tag you as an entitled piece of shit
So you’re the person who stays in the left lane with a mile of cars behind you?
Do everyone else a favor and stay off the highway.
Lol, no.
So true. I can’t believe how often i’ve seen morons like this also say something like “actually driving too slow is dangerous too”
Because it is.
Don’t hangout in the left lane.
It is, but suboptimal driving behaviour of your fellow drivers is never an excuse to consciously make road traffic even more dangerous or behave aggresively.
Yeah. And they rarely give a fully articulated reason why “driving too slow is dangerous”. Because they know that the real reason - “it makes other people drive aggressively” - is trying to place the blame on slow drivers for the actions of actually dangerous drivers.
Of course, you should drive at an appropriate speed. But in terms of safety messaging, it’s not the thing to focus on.
That was my reaction too. The worst drivers are the ones who treat the highway like a race track, always looking to pass anyone in sight, swerving into any lane to do so, and tailgating people as a strategy to get what they want. I hate those people so much. Yeah it’s super annoying to get blocked by a car in the left lane but you’re right, the tailgater is the worse person here.
For real though, I will move over to the other lane as soon as I safely can, some people don’t know how to wait for 5 fucking seconds.
And they all get mad on the internet when you call them out on their shitty, selfish impatience.
Kind of surprised by how many people are defending this shit.
If you tailgate people, you can go fuck yourself.
Im surprised by the people indicating that they don’t pull over on purpose, literally just to be an asshole… Tailgating is idiotic, but you can do something about it by getting out of the way. Its safer to have as much room around you as possible. Don’t tailgate, let people pass, and pass quickly. Who wants to drive right next to someone, in their blind spot or in yours? Use your controls to either speed up or slow down.
For the tailgater’s here, driving fast barely saves time on short trips. You might save as much as 2 minutes on your daily 20 mile commute driving like an absolute maniac. But who wants to risk a ticket or accident doing that everyday and then paying an increased insurance rate on top of potentially losing your car and spending time in the hospital with an insane medical bill?
I rarely if ever see a tailgater tailgate one car that’s doing something wrong, and then immediately go back to being cool.
So? I don’t want to be the one they crash into.
Not that it’s the right thing to do, but you can save a surprising amount of time driving fast. If traffic is averaging 60mph, and you, being a psycho BMW/etc driver manage to average 90, even over just 20 miles, you’ll get there over six minutes sooner.
The time savings of course gets pretty nuts over 200+ miles with even just a 10-15 mph difference, and sometimes reasonable speed differences are more than that in situations like getting stuck behind trucks passing other trucks at 55-60 vs the 80mph speed limit on some highways.
I don’t think most tailgaters are driving fast for time savings. I think it really just comes down to the feeling that being forced to drive slower than you want to just feels bad, and if you’re emotionally immature or impulsive, you let that feeling impact your driving.
I don’t let it impact my driving, but I can absolutely feel my impatience rising being trapped behind a slower driver. There have even been a couple times where it was persistent enough to start affecting my focus. My solution? I parked somewhere to cool off, which you might note is the opposite of saving time.
In my state it is law that slower traffic move to the right lane. That means if your hall monitor ass is running the speed limit in the left lane and you are holding up traffic that wants to go faster than you, you are not only the asshole you can be pulled over and cited and I have seen it enforced.
So it’s legal in your state to exceed the speed limit of you want to go faster than the guy in the fast lane that is going exactly the limit?
Yes. The speed limit in most states isn’t a hard limit.
The speed limit in most states isn’t a hard limit
The speed limit is the maximum speed allowed by law. Doesn’t matter if you’re passing, delivering a baby or have gone over that speed a million times and never been pulled over, if you exceed the posted speed limit you are breaking the law. It’s one of the few extremely cut and dry traffic laws
You’re correct, but as a schematic the image is also correct.
Allowing someone to tailgate you for an extended period is also an asshole maneuver.
Seriously, driving slow and clogging the passing lane is irritating and dangerous, but tailgating is just making a dangerous situation even worse. Plus, if a person is already absentminded enough to be cruising in the left lane they’re likely not going to be rational enough to interpret that as “move over.” Instead they’ll just think “some crazy asshole is on my ass” and either keep as-is, panic, or try some spiteful move like slowing down in the left lane and further compound things.
Zero “people” are defending this. Anyone defending this is subhuman.
Get off your phone slowballs
You know what I do if someone’s tailgating me? I imagine that they’re a bomb disposal expert on their way to diffuse a nuke at a school for blind orphan kittens, I pull over and let them on their way, and smile at the thought of all those kittens who’ll be saved. Stress level 0.
I just think “dickheads to the front”. I’d rather have bad drivers in front of me, where I can see them and avoid their bad driving.
Think of it this way: do you want them driving toward you or away from you?
Exactly
What do you do if they still stay behind you, refusing to pass?
Slow down until they do, or even pull over if it’s safe to.
There’s a minimum safe following distance that’s necessary to avoid accidents.
If they’re too close, I’m in danger of getting rear-ended.
The safe following distance depends on the speed we’re going.
I can’t control how close the car behind me is driving.
But I can control my speed.
So I blip the brake just enough for the brake lights to come on and get their attention, then coast without gas and slow down until my speed matches their distance.(They’ll pass me long before that)
shoot
If you drive normally I’ll let you pass. But if you’re up in my ass flashing highbeams when I’m still overtaking? Grab a snack buddy cause we’re going nowhere and we’re not going there fast either.
Edit: Some salty fucks in here dogpiling a silly comment on the internets. Sure is reddit in here
Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
Anecdotes aren’t data.
Ride my ass so closely that you put me in danger, and I’m taking my time.
‘data points aren’t data’
Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
Okay but they’re not. Right? Data points by themselves aren’t data. That’s why they have a different name.
If you look at one data point, then everyone with red hair is a billionaire because I saw one once.
Data
data
different name.
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“Instead of letting the dangerous driver past me and away from me I am making the situation worse by attempting to intervene”
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
Thats what emergency flashers are for.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
Emergency flashers… on your typical like Nissan Altima (or whatever)?
The two vehicles were headed to a central meeting point to save critical time, in the actual middle of nowhere.
Yes, it’s the red triangle button, give it a shot sometime!
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
https://legaloverview.com/is-it-illegal-to-drive-with-hazards-on/
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
Texas law enforcement generally takes a common-sense approach to hazard enforcement. Officers focus on genuinely dangerous driving, not technical violations of hazard rules… Texas gives drivers wide latitude on hazard use, but using them without any valid safety reason can still draw attention.
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
State laws use various terms including “hazard warning lights,” “emergency flashers,” “four-way flashers,” and simply “flashers.”
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
Shit happens and sometimes you won’t be there for it and that’s just life. It’s not a justification to put everyone else on the road in danger.
Easy to say when it’s not you bleeding out, but alright fam
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
I think the story goes that the ambulance was driving towards a car containing the patient, and the car containing the patient was also driving towards the ambulance.
It’s tragic but that is an infrastructure failure more than anything else.
I’m my tiny country we have trauma helicopters for stuff like that. You should never get into your own car with stuff like that.
Secondly how did it is to have a alarm line operator tell you to get into your own car to meet the ambulance half way. How did that work?
In rural areas they Will communicate with both of you.
Once again, move the fuck over. You aren’t the police.
Way to miss my point. Have better ambulance coverage.
Two things can be true: the ambulance coverage should be better and you aren’t the traffic police, you don’t know their situation, move the fuck over.
Guess which one you have more control over.
Cute story. Still not correct to drive like a psycho unless your vehicle has sanctioned emergency lights that are active.
That makes more sense. Thanks
Then it’s an educational failure because they didn’t use emergency lights.
You don’t know that they didn’t use emergency lights, and it ultimately doesn’t matter either way. Someone died a preventable death because of people like you trying to police others’ behaviour.
Edit: made my comment a little less mean
No one here remembers them saying this in the post it seems, and no that death didn’t happen because someone wouldn’t get over. I’m not policing anyones actions here any more than saying “there is a standard procedure for this that could’ve also impacted the death.” Fwiw that person in the example pic here doesn’t have enough clearance to switch lanes at 70+ mph safely, which would be 6+ cat lengths and would be risking lives moving over.
The examine pic needs to fit on their back tailgate.
For every 1 speeder who’s trying to reach the ER in time to save their friends life, there are 10,000 deaths caused by speeding.
Give me a break with this bullshit second hand tale. I’m not going to treat tailgaters like they are on their way to save a life. They take lives.
This wasn’t a typical driver in an urban environment, again thus was the middle of nowhere with low traffic. They also, again, weren’t trying to reach the hospital, they were being instructed to meet medical staff halfway as the dispatcher and emts determined that was the best course of action.
But it’s obviously that you’d rather feel morally superior than compassionate for someone trying to save a life; and you clearly have experience making these kinds of judgement calls, right? What a sad, sad person you must be.
Oh boo hoo HOOOOOO!!
There is no way to lane block someone on a remote rural road. If you’re racing to save a life you just fucking pass in the other lane.
There’s no moral superiority about this. Your anecdote is just bullshit and doesn’t change the fact that driving fast and tailgating causes more accidents than it saves lives.
What I’m hearing is you require other drivers to drive deferentially in such a way that caters to your ego in order for you to drive safely and avoid conflicts, otherwise you drive like a sociopath for sport?
Jesus fucking christ calm down you lunatic
Oh, sorry. Comment snuck up on you too fast? Put you ill at ease while you thought you were the only person on the internet?
What are you gonna do, claim personal offense and use that as justification to return the offense ten-fold?There is another option. It’s minding your business.
We can’t know the justifications or dispositions of others, but we can choose not to pick fights with strangers. In fact: choosing to avoid confrontation could save a life! Someone else’s, or even your own - you don’t know who you’re messing with on the road. 🌈💫Keep sniffing your own farts bro👍
No response of substance.
Welcome to Lenny. No one cares
*Lemmy
Lenny
Someone hit a nerve
I must have.
My wife is an anxious passenger. I usually set the adaptive cruise control to whatever matches prevailing traffic, and stay in the outermost lane unless I have to pass someone. Most of my driving is honestly trying to make sure if someone does something stupid, I’m reacting to it in a calm way.
A lot of people have big feels about controlling the road.
The adaptive cruise control is interesting - if I’m a few hundred feet behind someone long enough for it to “lock in”, I know their speed because my car is pacing them.It’s fascinating to see people suddenly accelerate after miles of the same speed on a relatively empty road because I moved into the passing lane, or (conversely) slow down because they’re alongside a slow vehicle and not in danger of being under-passed by another driver. The ego and herd mentality is something to behold.
Yeah, play chicken with a maniac driving a 2 ton vehicle. Good luck.
Driving at the speed limit is not ‘playing chicken’
‘Legally right’ means dick to these people.
Let them pass lest they do something reckless and take you with them in the process.
This sign is legally binding.
I had a buddy who would time his driving so that he could go through green lights at full speed. All well and good, and perfectly legal, but none of that helped him recover when he T-boned the guy who ran a red light. Sometimes a little prudence goes a long way, even if you’re in the right.
That’s why I stay out of the passing lane unless I’m passing. I was saying it’s not just polite, but also the law. And it keeps crazy people from weaving and passing on the right, which endangers people.
Sadly, only in some states is it legally binding.
If you’re that car in the first place, you’re blocking traffic. Get the fuck out of the way.
This the the guy two inches behind me when I’m already doing 15 over the speed limit
Same.
If I’m going faster than other traffic and already over the limit by a decent amount, I’ll move over once the middle lane is clear, but I’m not speeding up just because you’re impatient.
In fact, I’ll slow down just a wee bit.
I give no fucks.
But, the caveat to that is that I don’t loiter in the passing lane at ten under the limit. It’s the passing lane. I’m there because, you know, I’m passing people and not because I think I need to do 95 mph in a lifted truck just to assert my dominance over the morning commute.
I stay in the passing lane if I am still passing people, but my car’s radar maintains a gap at speed and I’m not going to force it dangerously close. Revving up to climb in my backseat doesn’t make the car in front of me go any faster.
I think that looks like tailgating because you couldn’t have a sticker to scale with the cars at proper distance from each other. It’s just a model showing cars need to drive in the driving lane not the passing lane.
It’s his god given right to get a speeding ticket and you are trampling his freedom!!! /s
Says the bumper sticker on the giant ass pickup truck who blocks your entire view and always drives 5mph below the limit.
They can be an asshole and still be right.
Absolutely but I wonder if they appreciate the irony.
The North American truck schmuck, there are many and they grow larger each year due to environmental pressures brought on by higher temperatures, worsening education and shrinking penises.
I’m in the midwest and the shit is an epidemic already, I’m not going to yuck someone’s yum but there has to be a limit to what people are allowed to drive on the road, those giant trucks are so unsafe, you can barely see anything over the hood unless it’s 20 ft in front of you.
That video of the truck driving over the Ferrari in a parking lot that recently went viral occured because the truck driver literally could not see the vehicle and did not realize there was a problem until their vehicle could not longer move. At least that’s what the truck driver said, but it’s somewhat believable given the sheer height difference between the notably lifted truck and the notably low to the ground Ferrari
If the car behind that is you, you’re also an asshole.
Stop fucking tailgating, no matter what the car in front does.Yeah, just stay back a safe distance and flash your brights until they move. Because the passing lane is called that for a reason and people need to get used to it.
The tailgater is always the asshole, if there is to be just one.
The tailgater is always an asshole. There may be multiple.
Sometimes the “tailgater” is doing 10 under the limit while the person in front of them is texting.
Not an excuse for following at an unsafe distance
That’s the secret, all 3 drivers are assholes. Fuck cars.
Exactly! There are so many holes
UwU
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The asshole in his giant micropenis truck is right, you are also an asshole when you behave like that.
“If I’m tailgating you, you’re an asshole.”
The small dick energy of this truck is amazing.
The tailgater is also an ass hole.
