• mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It’s interesting to me that nowhere in the article and really nowhere in the comments does anyone raise the question of why do the Faroe Islanders do these hunts in the first place?

    Obviously people living close to the sea have always gotten large portions of their diet from seafood, so are they actually preserving and eating all of the whale/dolphin meat they are harvesting?

    If so then it doesn’t seem to me like a question of should the hunt be banned, unless we also want to discuss banning all other forms of hunting and animal husbandry.
    It seems instead that we should be asking if they are doing it less humanely than other forms of hunting or animal husbandry, and if so what can be done to reduce the whales’ suffering?

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    It’s the same story every year. And it’s a bunch of pearl clutching second grade journalism, if you ask me.

    These are animals that have lived free, beautiful lives in their natural habitats. Then they are killed and eaten, with no deliberate cruelty involved. Circle of life.

    If we want to reduce animal cruelty, look towards the massive scale of factory farming, not at the 700 animals that are hunted by a small indigenous community.

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      If we want to reduce animal cruelty, look towards the massive scale of factory farming

      How about not rounding up hundreds of highly intelligent beings and their families to murder them for no reason. And don’t give me your whataboutist bullshit about “muh factory farms”; I don’t use those either. 9 times out of 10, the people I see citing factory farms in cases like this deliberately use factory farms all the time and simply want an excuse for inaction. Shit like this needs to end too and can trivially end.

      These are animals that have lived free, beautiful lives in their natural habitats.

      So are you, so come here. We’ll just chase you into an alley, put a hook through your nose, and cut your spine; no deliberate cruelty involved (besides the deliberate, brutal, totally superfluous murder).

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        Wow that is one extremely aggressive response to what I thought was a relatively sensible comment. I’m sorry if I upset you.

        It’s not whatsboutism, it’s a question of scale. Attention is a finite resource, and I think you should place it where it matters most.

        There is a post-colonial dimension to Grindadráp that is rarely mentioned by the media. And that matters more to me personally than the lives of the whales.

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        Understand that I would eat you with no compunction whatsoever. You’re just another animal to me.

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        How about not rounding up hundreds of highly intelligent beings and their families to murder them for no reason.

        If they’re so intelligent, why do they let themselves be rounded up to be murdered year after year?

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          “If humans are so intelligent, why did they let me chase them into my murder chamber? Riddle me that, liberals!”

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          “If africans were so intelligent, why did they allow themselves to be sold into slavery for so long?”

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      look towards the massive scale of factory farming, not at the 700 animals that are hunted by a small indigenous community.

      We are allowed to do both at the same time.

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      1: the Brits there aren’t exactly indigenous

      2: ranching is sustainable for the species, since we’re also breeding / protecting them for food. Mass hunting isn’t the same as we’re not protecting or ensuring the reproduction of the whale population.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      This is (I assume) what The Independent is referencing in the subheader. “Push to ban the hunts” would mean putting pressure on the Faroe Islands to ban it.