• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    Tire pressuse sensors broadcast unique ID’s

    we’re so cooked :)

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        Don’t worry ur tpms ids aren’t useful for tracking. Their not like exclusive to the car and in some data base, and not as unique as u may think. Their randomly generated either 10 digit or hex ID that u program ur cars tpms module to read. U can replace the sensors and run another randomly generated id and program module to see that as it’s, or u can reprogram a sensor (or a blank) to have the existing ID. There is no real useful way to track anybody with it, the range is so shit on them and you would have had to already have scanned the sensor IDs on the car to know them, which surprise u have a licence plate and shit their already gonna have all ur info at that point. If ur getting tracked in a car, I promise you it will never be from the TPMS lol

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    I don’t want a tool to avoid Flock cameras. I want a tool that uses my Bluetooth to turn Flock cameras into bricks.

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      Need to figure out a small scale, cheap, EMP device that can be set off to fry the cameras and sensors, but nothing else that is around.

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          Agreed, though I would expect one to not be carrying anything that could be affected by such a device, whilst deploying said devices. So personal devices don’t count as needing protection AFAIC

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            If it’s using Bluetooth to knacker them, then all the nearby Bluetooth devices would be vulnerable.

            Medical equipment these days also can feature Bluetooth for mobile connectivity, and you can’t exactly go without your defibrillator, hearing aids, or insulin pump.

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      If you want a tool that turns Flock cameras into bricks, all you need is a brick.

      … Or wire cutters, or a big hammer, or an angle grinder, or a drill, or a large rock, or a can of spray paint, etc, etc, etc. They’re not terribly resilient against physical damage.

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        I’ve been thinking of buying a slingshot and some paintballs. For another, completely irrelevant purpose though, obviously.

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          Remember to mask up when you’re going out playing with paintballs – for covid safety! Wear sunglasses, too – you don’t want eye damage from the bright sunlight.

          Oh, and perhaps most importantly, leave your phone at home. Wouldn’t want to accidentally hit your phone with a paintball, would you?

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          problem is the camera sees you offing it. unless you bloc up way away, and not near your own stuff.

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      I would think that a simple laser-pointer pointed at the camera would be enough to damage the sensor?

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        Lasers would be quite risky. Anything that powerful would also instantly obliterate peoples’ vision if there’s a reflection and it gets them in the eye.

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        You’ll need around a 1-watt green (532nm) laser pointer. That’s gonna run you about $500 and they’re kinda dangerous.

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    Burned into my mind is the reaction to my rural town’s mayor when Flock was brought up:

    “Have you seen the stop signs around here? Do you think those cameras will last any longer?”

    Many of the local stop signs have at least one bullet hole in them. Armored mailboxes are commonplace. They want to put up something in the sticks that it isn’t morally ambiguous to destroy?

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    Is a webpage a “tool”?

    I keep hearing from US friends that their best tool was getting involved and having Flock banned from their counties and cities.

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      But, are they only banning Flock (which is a good step), or are they banning all ALPR installs? Can they even ban them on private property? A lot of what I see on deflock.org near me isn’t on the streets (though some is), most of them are actually looking at parking lots, many of big box stores like Lowes, random strip malls and shopping centers, a church…

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    Deflock=where they are… Start mob grouping the cameras.

    Has anyone here tried caulking a super strong magnet on to one of the poles? They make squeeze caulk that can do multi surface.

    Could also just start taking them out? Just start throwing rocks at them and using a hammer against the boxes. Spray painting the cameras. Idk, there’s things people can do.

    Make a program that’s constantly making it seem like there’s ghost devices and overload the list and it does it so much they can’t use it. Ummmmm… Let’s get creative.

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      A magnet alone wouldn’t do anything. You’d need an active jammer, which would be illegal. Don’t F with the FCC :)

      Put a dab of caulk on the end of a dowel and touch the lens. That would at worst be vandalism, I imagine.

      The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.

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        The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.

        R. C. Cars operated by extenders to the antennas, you could have someone drive one around to take focus off of them and have a printout of a human face in high detail.

        You have full arm gloves on and you use contacts and a wig just in case. Could also do a full body gorilla suit with contacts in and have a clip on device near your hands that emits a bleach mist so your finger prints aren’t there. Like spider man’s cartridges but for bleach misting.

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          Yeah, totally possible to do in an anonymous style, you just need to consider anonymous transport; they have cameras leading up to and away from most places. If they really got their nickers in a wad, they’d ask local businesses and ring cameras for footage. Trying to do something like this is more akin to planning a heist with all the surveillance.

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            Someone should make a mass loader of like 10,000 bluetooth devices that don’t exist, pre-generated and loaded ready to go and when they scan your device it auto loads 10,000 devices and it overloads the scanner and crashes. Bonus points if the generator is built-in to the device to re-use on other flock cameras after the first hit :P

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              I’ve seen some tech that searches out hot mirros and blasts them with an intense IR laser to burn out the sensors. Of course by then, they already have seen your plate.

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    If there’s a camera on a roadway they can do ALPR. I’m not saying they do, I’m saying it’s highly possible because cameras have gotten so much better. And the APIs to do the ALPR are getting cheaper.

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    just walking a mile down a road i haven’t been down in years, i spotted two of them. there’s been absolutely no local coverage about it… and scanning local municipal and town meeting minutes for the last several years–not one mention of them.

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      They have a whole division for pushing HOA’s to partner with them and “keep the places you call home safe.” So it’s not even just Governments you need to wonder about, HOA’s can just install them. So if you can’t find anything in Government documents, it’s entirely possible a nearby HOA did it.

      Flock Safety’s HOA security cameras help deter and solve crime, protect residents, and build trust with 24/7 tech that works with law enforcement to keep your neighborhood safe and connected.

      Optional law enforcement access gives your board confidence with faster response times and alerts for known threats—while keeping full control in your community’s hands

      Flock Safety’s solar-powered, LTE-connected neighborhood camera solutions install anywhere—no wiring, no utility bills, no IT headaches. We handle setup, maintenance, and support.

      That’s some of the sales pitch on their site about why HOA’s should get them.

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        they were on a street that is also carries state and u.s. highway designation, just past the municipal boundary. small town here, there literally are no ‘subdivisions’ or hoa anywhere around.

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      Small little ruralish tourist town, we got em at Lowe’s and Walmart, and 2 in one of the highest traffic areas. Thinking about seeing to sign for the meth heads letting them know there’s valuable metal (gold) in dem hills cameras

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      Depending on the route i take, there are up to 21 Flock cameras on my way to work. Its only like 5.5 miles.

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    I think we need to start holding paintball battles around Flock cameras. Just to provide the surveillance techs with some entertainment, of course.