• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world
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    Wow, the comments in this thread are surprisingly bad, even for a shitpost.

    Having been in the situation myself, my thoughts were very much “let’s not make them uncomfortable” (meaning feel sexualised), but the first times (as a young’un) it got stiff enough (not that way :p) that the person chose to break the tension. Just don’t be weird about it and everyone can be comfortable.

    There are plenty of situations and contexts where nudity isn’t sexual, and I highly recommend getting comfortable with that distinction. I find people and groups of all genders to become a lot more safe with that skill.

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    I actually find this gross, I’m assuming the roommate consented or else your are no better than the guys who flash people naked under a trench coat. But if he did, and he’s obviously so visibly uncomfortable, I can’t imagine as an empathetic person continuing to make them uncomfortable.

    Even if them being uncomfortable was because they were trying not to make me feel uncomfortable. I can’t imagine the meme switched genders people would be so cool about it. I guess i could say if a pig has wings it would be a bird, but this is gross. Sorry.

    It’s funny cause I just got mad at someone for saying something fucked up to a shitpost, but this doesn’t feel right at all.

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      Maybe first ask for context before getting so riled up?

      Not everyone on this page has the same cultural background as you. In Germany for example it’s quite common to be naked at the beach/lake. Not everywhere obviously but common enough that a lot of us are not bothered by nudity as much as other cultures.

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        They posted the context, the person i hope they got consent from is trapped on a boat with them. Making escape impossible from possible discomfort. It’s even worse, it’s a fucking captive audience to torment. Again, I hope there was consent, I’d imagine that still exists in Germany. And again, as a human who’s aware of my effect on other people, I’d imagine they still have empathy in Germany, I wouldn’t want to make a person uncomfortable for my own benefit, that’s selfish and weird, and if it was a dude it would be fucking sinister. Because it’s a girl in the meme, people in the thread are answering with their pants around their ankles.

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    feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets

    i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird

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      oh, i’ve always found it kind of funny, actually.

      the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.

      after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.

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        I’ve never seen you post something that is not related to sex in some way, so yeah you are definetly a horny poster for me.

        I don’t mind though.

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        and don’t even get me started on the “mark this as NSFW, please” police patrolling around here, lmao. (the tamest post you can imagine.)

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          Ehhhh, I can understand people might hold a pretty large safety margin for “will my boss be OK with this”.

          Edit: did some profile stalking. None of that is remotely nsfw, screw those people.

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      I’m not comfortable with people hanging out naked around me and no amount of your “feeling sorry” is going to change that

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          No, I don’t, which is why I would be uncomfortable if I was hanging out at my friend’s house and his “fling” was just chilling out naked. Especially if she was enjoying making me and anyone else around uncomfortable

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            Y’all have dick for media literacy. Nowhere does the meme imply that op was getting a kick out of making everyone uncomfortable. If anything the meme implies she was oblivious to it, not intentionally doing it to get a reaction. Y’all are so out of touch you genuinely can’t imagine someone just preferring to be naked in a safe comfortable space. No wonder none of y’all are having kids, you’re afraid of fuckin nudity.

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            Jesus context is fuckin difficult with this lot. Lemme break this down for you here; if op is naked around fling and fling’s friend, fling is the kind of person who clearly doesn’t have issues with casual nudity, therefore would not likely freely have friends over if those friends weren’t ok with casual nudity. Like, it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out. Apparently none of you have ever seen public nudity. It’s not a big deal. Nobody cares except for perverts and porn-brained internet shut ins.

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              What does OP’s nudity have anything to do with fling’s or fling’s friend’s beliefs?

              it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out

              So, just to be clear, by your logic, if I was at a hangout with, say, my friends and their girlfriends (all of whom I can tell you would be uncomfortable with nudity), and I just whipped my dick out and started chilling naked, it would actually be chill because

              it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits dick out

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                If your dick is already out when your friends come into your dick out space then yeah, that’s on your friends. Y’all can’t understand context if it whipped its dick out in public. Fling has company over while op has tits out, ergo fling and op are comfortable with casual nudity and aren’t concerned about friends seeing tits. If you’re uncomfortable about casual nudity in someone else’s space, that’s on you. This isn’t complicated but all y’all motherfuckers keep imagining situations where ya get to be the victims of gasp witnessing casual nudity.

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                  You keep going on about context. What context? OP doesn’t give any context, only that she is naked around other people who are obviously uncomfortable about it and wondering what they thinking. How is this supposed to be interpreted in any way other than OP putting other people in a situation they do not want to be in?

                  We are not imagining scenarios where we get to be victims, we are trying to explain to you that we would not be comfortable with the situation described, and despite you saying it’s not complicated, you attack us and call us prudes. Also, the person being referenced in OP’s meme is a victim, no imagining about it

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        When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?

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        See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.

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          So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?

          My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.

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            Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”

            What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.

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                What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.

                It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.

                You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.

                Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.

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                  Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.

                  I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.

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              It’s all about context. Deliberately exposing yourself without consent to someone could cause similar harm.

              Up until the above comment, that is what the commenter was implicitly arguing, that it was fine to force your nakeness on others.

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    If your hanging about with your junk out I’m looking. If you don’t want me to look put your pants back on.

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      Used to have “Naked Tuesdays” with another couple we were friends with years ago. Just the four of us hanging out naked watching TV, maybe some other things happening. If you weren’t looking at anyone else, why even bother?

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      I call bull shit. Last week I caught you furiously masturbating in the lemmy communal sauna. I would’ve believed you if you weren’t constantly yelling: “Oh God, I’m not mentally prepared. Oh God. Oh Please! I’m not ready!” You’re a bad liar.

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    Something similar happened to me while playing catan at a friends place and it was pretty weird. One of the sublets we didn’t know very well had a new lady friend over ever month. The lady of the month walked into the kitchen in just panties and asked what we were playing. She obviously didn’t get the response she was hoping for and left with a disapointed look on her face. We all wondered if she was hoping to fluster a bunch of “virgin nerds” like some corney early 2000s movie in order to stroke her ego.

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      That fucking peripheral vision, target lower… no… it’s right down there, you can see it just not focus on it… no… you turn past to look somewhere else, eyes dip…FUCK YOU BRAIN…

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      That’s my take on it as well. I’ve played some party games where taking clothes off was part of it and I wouldn’t have participated if I was uncomfortable with people looking at me. It’s weird to me to think otherwise, like if you don’t want people looking is your intention just to make everyone uncomfortable? That’s not cool.

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    I don’t think I would like to see my friends naked male or female. I would be more ok with stranger nudity. It is not that I see someone naked and I immediately think of sex or I evaluate their body (though the latter is more likely than the former). It is just years of social conditioning that makes this situation very out of the ordinary and more awkward when someone I know is involved.

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    As a nudist I could care less.

    And I’d look. Just wouldn’t continuously stare. That’s kind of the nudist rule.

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    I sort of had this situation in a house I lived at in college. It only got weird some of the time.

    There’s definitely a wide range of, uh, dignity in someone’s nudity.

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    I’d be worried looking might be interpreted as leering or being otherwise disrespectful.

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      Yes but, if you have someone in the house god damn put on some clothes. This is like one of those “don’t force me into your kink” things.

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        Yeah I mean I don’t know the rest of the story I guess. Like, maybe there’s a perfectly good reason that they’re doing what they’re doing 🤷

        Plus like, i might not mind 👀

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    me but with feet the one time I took a yoga class. staring isn’t okay for me without their consent but damn it was still really distracting when nice looking soles inevitably entered my field of vision