Currently watching the show Silo. It’s a documentary tbh.
So, basically like that one episode of “SuperJail!”,? That one where the Warden basically takes over the US and turns all the citizens into inmates?
why would they need AI to do this when theyve been doing this without AI for decades.
5 eyes. every phone has a camera. and mic.
the data they collected from spying on you requires a space to store and hardware to process them
These data centers provide them
What you said, and also, data are just much bigger now. And not just a little bit bigger - orders of magnitude bigger. It’s not just that photo and video file sizes have increased… the metadata, the data about the data, have also increased in size and quantity.
Lay flat. Seriously, society is like two weeks to two months from collapsing at any moment. All anyone has to do is literally just not go to work for two weeks in mass. The power goes out, water stops running, and the grocery store goes empty. You share your resources with your neighbors. You don’t even need to get out of bed to collapse the system.
I have heard many variations to this point but I would like to point out a counter example. The great depression in the US that lasted for a decade. The average income level for families fell by 40%. People regularly starved to death and even by WWII almost 50% of men were turned away from recruitment because they were malnourished.
Guess what? No revolution, no collapse just massive suffering.
Motherfuckers can’t even stop buying cheap garbage from Amazon, but we’re gonna expect that they can sacrifice their personal livelihoods and risk starvation? Yeah right.
I’d put it more like people can’t take one day to go vote (two if we count primaries).
Like you said- people aren’t making this grand sacrifice and it’s foolish to expect them to, especially given the sacrifice is far, far greater.
Thats why im going the opposite route, I’m trying to drag people into the stock market with me, get em all hype up on greed and the promise of being rich… then watch them lose everything and discover capitalism is a rigged game and bail.
The infrastructure kept on ticking for those that needed it. The ports kept on moving goods. The power generation kept on, the truckers kept on, society kept on. We’re not talking about an actual collapse of society, more so a game of chicken with people who think they are in charge. The right people aka the ones who actually facilitate the basic functions of society just stay home a few days. That’s enough to get the point across.
That is not really accurate for the great depression as the infrastructure definitely collapsed, but I get your point.
I think there is a profound disconnect here about the power of the people. That is my bigger point that humans will suffer through far far far worse than what we are dealing with now without any sort of pushback.
In some ways it feels like this is almost a mythology when you compare people protesting to getting what they want. The only times this seems to happen is when the wealthy and the common man’s goals align and increasingly in our modern world this is dictated by the persuasive propaganda of corporations. Basically people are convinced to go along with what the wealthy want.
The burn is that the wealthy can and will ignore the people regardless of their desires. The most recent riots and protests in France about raising the retirement age are a great example of this. The people protested violently and in the end the age was raised as the wealthy dictated.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying we can’t do anything. Simply put protesting isn’t the power people think it is and civilization isn’t going to revolt just because things get bad.
Great example with France, a population thats actually civically active and resistant to government bullshit
Any plan that requires everyone to just comply to the same idea will never work.
It’s never about everyone, all ideas are a numbers game, same for whatever is considered culture. If it’s just one guy he’s crazy, if it’s a few hundred or thousand it’s a cult, if it’s a few million to a billion then it’s a culture.
I remember 5-10 years ago looking at China and thinking this sounds too crazy to be true, no way they give their citizens negative points for walking a red light, no way you can’t access the internet outside of China, no way you have to work 6 days 12 hours. Lately most of the times i thought ‘no way …’ it was after reading news about the US.
And the social scoring in China was roled back and limited.
Nah, they already have that
yeah this is just more of “enclose private property and charge rents on it” imo
It needs more compute.
Years ago (just before everything became AI this and AI that) there was a discussion about the collection of big data - essentially, the very plausible argument was that you can collect all you want but you just can’t sift through it in time. There always were reports of how this terrorist’s FB timeline showed his radicalisation - after they killed people.
So people called for small data instead: just collect the metadata. Not that I approve of that either, but it would have made more sense, also wrt environmental impact i.e. energy consumption.
But very soon AI came, Trump was already there, and suddenly it was all Big Data again - plus AI.
This is where we are now. And speaking for the devil: the infrastructure needs to grow to keep up with all the exciting new possiblities.
Not to the extent they will have if they succeed in their cloud subscription terminals for all project instead of personal computers.
The world cup has been a huge boon to AI surveillance.
The World Cup does not create the surveillance state — but it has become one of the most efficient mechanisms for funding, deploying, legitimizing, and permanently embedding it across the globe, one tournament at a time.
I sometimes wonder if people understand that the data centers get customers to fill the space in it. Like there’s 40 customers in one data center. Randomly chosen number used for ease if explaining. Could be 10 or 100 different companies renting space for the services.
You’re talking about a colo. Larger companies will have their own datacenters dedicated to their own services.
Nah, when the bubble collapses there are going to be all these large vacant climate controlled warehouses to use as for profit concentration camps.
the ones they managed to populate with computers will be used for surveillance, the ones that are sitting empty will be the prisons
You think the concentration camps are going to be climate controlled?
We’ll get the bare minimum heat in the winter to keep us from freezing to death too fast before they can get ‘enough’ work out of us. And absolutely nothing in the summer, not even ventilation fans.
No, they are probably just building data centers to replace any non-physical labor with AI. And hope to be able to do that in the future for physical labor with robots: To create a permanent underclass of unemployed people and the 1% living like gods.
Not really better but that’s what it looks like to me.
Thiel and his crew have talked about wanting the US to have a population of 100 million. They don’t want a permanent underclass of unemployed people, they want a permanent underclass of dead people.
The six feet underclass.
I don’t want the internet any mores. I want underwebs!!
*Already built and expanding
Well… take a guess which tool they’re gonna use for total surveillance. 🌝
never atribute to malice what could adequetly be explained by stupidity
People see dollarmarks and forget everything else
The older I get, the less distinction I see between malice and stupidity. They always seem to come as a package deal, never one seen without the other.
Evil geniuses and idiots with a heart of gold are Hollywood fictions. In reality, the most evil, spite-driven people and the most moronic people are almost always the same people.
They’re the same picture
