• Jarix@lemmy.world
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    Idiot on an intelligent team, I’ll only get better

    Intelligent in an idiot team, they will only make me dumber

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    So long as the intelligent people are also kind. A group of intelligent people that are backbiting and cruel is the absolute worst.

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          I don’t think so. A smart person can still learn while being the smartest in the room. People don’t get dumber, just because they are the smartest of all in the room. In fact you might be able to help others, or be the only one who can solve the problem. Then you are the right person in the room.

          On the other hand, being dumb or an idiot does not mean you will learn… most likely you will not (that’s why its called an idiot). Smart people can be an asshole or you cannot keep up with them and just be a burden.

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            Think that through. You are in a room with only people dumber than you. How are you learning anything? They don’t have anything good to teach you. If you try to bring new knowledge into the room, they will likely not reward you for it, and quite possibly actively attack you for it. How long do you think you could maintain your intelligent view of anything when everyone around you is dragging you down with every interaction? You try to discuss science, they call you a nerd and tear up your textbooks to roll blunts. You try spending time ignoring them to study the construction of the walls of the room, but eventually you need some company. No one can survive in complete isolation. They tell you you’re the idiot for trying so hard, for caring about these things that no one else in your world cares about. And you hate to admit it, but they’re kind of right. You can study everything you want. You can write down findings for the rest of your life about the room, but when you’re gone, they’re just going to roll them into blunts. Even if you resist at first, they’ll outlast you because you need people to maintain your sanity. They’ll wear down your values as they, without even thinking about it, use operand conditioning to get you to use their slang, play their games, value what they value, disregard what they disregard. It happens all the time.

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              You come up with a contrived scenario and very specific situation just to justify being an idiot. No. Knowledge is not the same as being intelligent, idiot is not the same as dumb. Its incredible how you guys come up with stories just to justify being the dumbest or only idiot in the room. An idiot means its not able to learn anything. Also why is the focus on learning something so high in these replies here? And who says I’m trapped in this room forever?

              An intelligent person can learn from the failures of idiots. That’s why he is intelligent. An idiot can not learn. That’s why he is an idiot.

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            Teaching others is one of the best ways to learn. There are levels of hell though. E.g. try teaching MAGA anything about the scientific method.

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    If I kept my level and get a team with >200 IQ, then I’ll be the idiot any day.

    I’m a middle aged industry engineer and having a team of morons at this point is so fucking tiresom.

    They’re not really morons. Companies obsessing about efficiency are just beating people in to lumps of apathy that don’t want to use more than 2% their brain power on anything. If they also have a culture of punishment, it kills all initiative and you end up with mouth breathers with a thousand yard stare all day.

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    Idiot on a team of intelligent people. I get pissed off at people being stupid. My team might get pissed off at me but that’s their problem. And generally I like being around people smarter than me because I learn a lot from them.

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    To be the inteligent person in a team of idiots is certainly one of the worst things that could happen to you.

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      That depends, if one of the idiots is in charge, it’s torture. However, if you don’t have to answer to any of them, you can set them up with busy work to feel important and do all the actual work yourself. Then it’s only bad if you don’t like the work.

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    Tough one.

    The nice thing about beeing smart is you can pretend to be dumb. Otherway around is way harder. All im saying

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    Idiot on a team of intelligent people. Hopefully, they’ll put up with me long enough to point where I learn enough to stop being an idiot.

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        I’d argue that management is simply a different skill. And the reason so many managers are bad is because they were promoted from roles that didn’t previously require management experience.

        Let’s say you hire someone to bolt things together on an assembly line, and then three years later they’re managing projects (without ever having gone to school in those interim years to learn any management skills). Yeah, they’ll probably be a fucking awful project manager. Unless they’re naturally gifted at management and really good at thinking on their feet, they’ll be flying by the seat of their pants. They’ll be using a ton of maladaptive tactics that were developed for surviving, not thriving. Because their original skill set and experience wasn’t based in project management, and they haven’t done anything to further their managerial skills.

        It’s the old “if you judge a fish by its ability to fly” quote, except that fish keep getting hired because they’re good swimmers, and then they get promoted into positions where they’re expected to fly.

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    “idiot” and “intelligent” are not mutually exclusive. One can be both at the same time. There are intelligent people doing idiotic stuff.

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      Of course people aren’t completely predictable. But do you see how you phrased that? “Intelligent people doing idiotic stuff”. You recognize the difference between intelligent people doing idiotic stuff vs an idiot doing idiotic stuff.

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        No, I meant Intelligent people can be idiots too. Idiot does not mean dumb. So what you are asking is not idiot vs intelligent, but dumb vs intelligent.

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            Didn’t I just told you that? You “meant”. What do you mean I don’t believe that? I just told you that I realized you was talking about dumb instead idiot, because you used it interchangeably.

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    They both feel so terrible.

    I guess, the best would be to be the idiot, and then get kicked out. Dragging everyone down with you comes with so much guilt (or should), while a bit of rejection beats the frustration of being a Cassandra.

    Unless it’s a team doing something evil, in which case you should make them idiots, and then quit.

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    I’ve been both on different uni projects. Far better being the smart one in a group of idiots and just banging out the work without interference for a good grade. Being the idiot on the smart team was torture.