• LadyMeow
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    Lmao. So now I can use my rented services on my rented laptop! I can go get the laptop in my rented car, to go back home to my rented place… it really is going to be you’ll own nothing and like it.

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      You will own nothing but corporations will still hold you, the consumer, responsible when their decisions have catastrophic outcomes for everybody.

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      Here’s a solution for you. Use your old MacBook, the one with 2GB of RAM. Use your old copy of Office 2008, the one that requires no subscription and offers no AI assistant. Stop paying for Spotify, find your old mp3 collection, convert all those CDs you never play anymore. You want television? Don’t pay subscriptions for that either, buy an HD antenna, get your local stations over the air. If it doesn’t have everything you want, suck it up or pirate it, your call.

      My point is, you can choose a different path, but it takes a choice.

      You know, dumb flip phones are coming back, people are realizing they don’t need all the crap they’re paying for, it doesn’t all make life better. It takes conviction to trade in your smart phone for a dumb one, but people are doing it.

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        Why would you make it harder than it is?

        libre office and you got an open source Office suite

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          That’s legit, I mean I use Libre myself.

          I guess I brought up old MS Office to point out that the world was not always like this, it used to be that sanity was mainstream.

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          Libre office got me through college without having to pay for ms office… which they still charged for even with a student discount.

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        TBF I self host and use Arch (btw) I was just making a supply joke, but your point stands.

        That said, people need things, sometimes you have to buy new things, and if so, don’t feel bad, try to make good choices, but you also have to take care of yourself.

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        buy an HD antenna

        In many countries you can use IPTV to get the public channels too and it’s totally legal

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    If you give it back with scratches on it, will you be into negative equity? 😬 I assume it’ll come with all the bad parts of car leasing, too…

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      And yet somehow worse. Don’t have to spend hours finding important files on my car’s hard drive before returning it to the dealership

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        You’ll need your own storage to backup before erasing and turning it in, but they probably know that and will factor that in for a fee.

        “Rent X months, get an SSD with your backup for free when you cancel your subscription.”

        They’ll likely try to upsell you on iCloud services as well. Your entire life will be digitized and uploaded into the cloud, onto some corporate computer somewhere.

        My issue with this is that you can often get a cheap laptop used, and major cities often have libraries that rent laptops to residents, if needed. And paying your library is cheaper than paying Apple, plus the money goes to the local library.📚

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      The lease contract includes 30,000 cpu-core-hours, any additional time will be billed at $0.10 per cpu-core-hour.

      /s

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      My assumption is the lease payments will more than cover the cost of the computer, and when you turn it back in at the end of the lease Apple is just going to scrap it.

      I suppose that doesn’t preclude them charging you extra if you return it all scratched up just to extract even more money from you.

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      You just know that apple idiots will line up to get this.

      Soon, you’ll be having people leasing laptops and trading them in every year for the new model, perpetually paying a monthly fee to have the best and newest laptop from apple.

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        I’d be more surprised if people weren’t already doing this. They do with iPhones when they lease and upgrade with their carrier.

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        I don’t think people care as much about the latest and greatest laptop as they do smartphones. That mindset about phones is also just as true with Android fanboys as it is Apple fanboys. Apple haters love to criticize when Apple does something like this but when the rest of the industry follows suit, they show us how much non-Apple users eat that shit up too.

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    Looks absurd, but I’m sure a lot of people will pay for it and next year we will have news about apple getting record profits

    I’m too tired of all this

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    You’re still paying for the more expensive ram. It’s just baked into a higher monthly rental payment. Why pay more for ram one time when you could pay more for ram every month for the rest of your life?

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      When a company says it has a “solution” for the high price, they means they have a “solution” for the big number on the sticker. Not that they actually care about affordability.

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        when the $ numbers start getting big and scary, just extend the length some more to make it look ‘cheaper’… like 8 year car loans and 50 year mortgages.

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    This was so insanely predictable. I wouldnt be surprised if all the tech giants move to do the same. “you will own nothing”

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    Leasing is not renting

    For tech stuff basically a financial entity buys the goods for you at full MSRP (they calculate a almost 100% depreciation over the term), then you pay that full price + interest over 48/60 installments, and when you’re done, they take the goods back and sell it back via some liquidator.

    And because the financial entity bought the stuff for you especially to lease it, you’re contractually obligated to pay until the end of the contract, can’t just get it for a month and then be done with it

    You paid $1200 to use something worth $900 for four years and then it’s not yours

    Unless you’re a business and the accountant says that’s better for taxes, leasing something doesn’t make sense

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    And there it is, you will own nothing and the apple chuds will enjoy it.

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    Companies with high-end products have the biggest profit margin cushions to deal with. I had little sympathy for Apple raising prices already, but this is absurd.

    they will still require you to either pay for the device in full or else lose the option to sell it to somebody else after you’re done

    …Minus the payments already provided, right?

    The Apple Upgrade service will work like a subscription and users can pay off the device early during their term, upgrade early to a new model or keep it at the end of the leasing period. In certain cases, those transactions will incur an additional fee .

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      …Minus the payments already provided, right?

      It’s very vague. If you could use this as a rent-to-own it’s perhaps not so bad, but if it’s just rent-to-still-not-be-able-to-own it sucks.

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      This sounds exactly like what the major cell providers do with phones, or at least what AT&T does. Monthly interest-free payment to pay for the phone in 24 or 36 months, ‘upgrade’ available at half or an arbitrary percentage of the device having been paid off. It’s ‘your’ device, but to sell it you have to pay off the balance remaining on the note. If you upgrade early, and the device is still in good condition, they zero out the note at that point, but it still counts as buying a new device, so you incur tax + an arbitrary ‘activation’ fee just like you bought a new device with cash.